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Hi guys. I was wondering if the teal book used by the Ruthenian Church for the Divine Liturgy is available to purchase online? My college is miles away from a Byzantine Church and it would be nice to have the liturgy and the music at my finger tips to pray with.

Thanks!
 
AdvanceAlways said:
Hi guys. I was wondering if the teal book used by the Ruthenian Church for the Divine Liturgy is available to purchase online? My college is miles away from a Byzantine Church and it would be nice to have the liturgy and the music at my finger tips to pray with.

Thanks!
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Yes, Byzantine Seminary Press:

FAITHFUL’S BOOK FOR THE DIVINE LITURGY 2006, $15.00

byzcath.org/byzsempress/books.htm#lit

PDF: metropolitancantorinstitute.org/servicebooks/DivineLiturgies.pdf

metropolitancantorinstitute.org/Publications2.html
 
Also, any Ruthenian parish with a gift shop should have some in stock. I know ours (St. Mary’s in Sherman Oaks, CA) has a couple of boxes of them.
 
ciero said:
I hear they’re great to start camp fires! 😃
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Now now, you’re talking about a sacred book here! :tsktsk:

At least it’s sacred to me! 🙂

I know there are a lot of more proper liturgists that don’t like this revised version of the D.L. but, after all, my first encounter with the Divine Liturgy was only a few short years ago, so this is the one I know almost by heart. :cool:

Sometimes I even sing through the various responses while I’m out driving in my car. My fellow motorists must wonder sometimes what radio station I’m listening to. :eek: 😃
 
theistgal said:
Now now, you’re talking about a sacred book here! :tsktsk:

At least it’s sacred to me! 🙂

I know there are a lot of more proper liturgists that don’t like this revised version of the D.L. but, after all, my first encounter with the Divine Liturgy was only a few short years ago, so this is the one I know almost by heart. :cool:

Sometimes I even sing through the various responses while I’m out driving in my car. My fellow motorists must wonder sometimes what radio station I’m listening to. :eek: 😃
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“Orthodoxy light”! 😃
 
theistgal said:
Now now, you’re talking about a sacred book here! :tsktsk:

At least it’s sacred to me! 🙂

I know there are a lot of more proper liturgists that don’t like this revised version of the D.L. but, after all, my first encounter with the Divine Liturgy was only a few short years ago, so this is the one I know almost by heart. :cool:

Sometimes I even sing through the various responses while I’m out driving in my car. My fellow motorists must wonder sometimes what radio station I’m listening to. :eek: 😃
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I am used to it now also. It it quite a zoo.

Various camp arose when it was mandated to be the only version used (June 29, 2007):
  1. Those that liked it.
  2. Those that were indifferent.
  3. Those that did not like format because of the hunting for the right section (due to inclusion of the music).
  4. Those that liked better what they used before (e.g., in different eparchies):
    a) because of the tones
    b) because of the order (what is included)
    c) because of the translation
    d) because of the rubrics
    e) because they reject the Vigil Divine Liturgy for the Annunciation when during Lent
  5. Those that think it did not revise enough because it falls short of the 1944 recension.
The same thing occured with the Purple book 2010 for the Presanctified (but it was not promulgated).
 
And 6. Those that just left the church.
Vico said:
I am used to it now also. It it quite a zoo.

Various camp arose when it was mandated to be the only version used (June 29, 2007):
  1. Those that liked it.
  2. Those that were indifferent.
  3. Those that did not like format because of the hunting for the right section (due to inclusion of the music).
  4. Those that liked better what they used before (e.g., in different eparchies):
    a) because of the tones
    b) because of the order (what is included)
    c) because of the translation
    d) because of the rubrics
    e) because they reject the Vigil Divine Liturgy for the Annunciation when during Lent
  5. Those that think it did not revise enough because it falls short of the 1944 recension.
The same thing occured with the Purple book 2010 for the Presanctified (but it was not promulgated).
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ciero said:
And 6. Those that just left the church.
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  1. The grapevine has it that Metropolitan Cyril-Basil is NOT at all happy with the music changes. He has a PhD in church music, OCS and one other subject. My sources tell me that he had sent a letter stating his objects to the musical changes to Metro Basil before he reposed in the Lord.
 
Patchunky said:
  1. The grapevine has it that Metropolitan Cyril-Basil is NOT at all happy with the music changes. He has a PhD in church music, OCS and one other subject. My sources tell me that he had sent a letter stating his objects to the musical changes to Metro Basil before he reposed in the Lord.
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I got the rebellion out of my system by setting a version of the Cherubic Hymn to the tune of “Gilligan’s Island” and posting it on Youtube. (Won’t post it here though - too easy! 😃 )
 
Patchunky said:
  1. The grapevine has it that Metropolitan Cyril-Basil is NOT at all happy with the music changes. He has a PhD in church music, OCS and one other subject. My sources tell me that he had sent a letter stating his objects to the musical changes to Metro Basil before he reposed in the Lord.
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You mean the of the Secretary of the Congregation for Eastern Churches Archbishop Cyril Vasil’ of the Slovak Greek-Catholic Church (ordained a priest Presov, 1987)?

In 1994 he earned a doctorate in Canon Law from the Pontifical Oriental Institute.

Did you know that he knows 11 languages (Slovak, Latin, Italian, English, Russian, Ukrainian, French, German, Polish, Spanish, Greek and Old Church Slavonic)?

There is a common Ruthenian Recension for many of the Greek-Catholic Churches that from Marca Union (1611) and Union of Uzhorod (1646) which led to five Byzantine Tradition ritual Churches. And common to the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic and Belorusan Greek-Catholic (Union of Brest 1595) according to the Ruthenian recension 1944.
  1. Križevci Greek Catholic Church
    – Marca renamed Gornji Tkalec (1777), renamed Eparchy of Križevci (1801)
    – Exarchy of Serbia and Montenegro (2003) from Križevci
  2. Macedonian Greek Catholic Church
    – Exarchy (1918, 2001)
  3. Ruthenian Greek Catholic Church
    – Mukacheve (1777)
    – Byzantine Metropolitan See of Pittsburgh (1969), with the suffragan Eparchies of Passaic (1963), Parma (1969) and Holy Protection of Mary (Phoenix) (1981).
    – Exarchy of Czech Republic (1996) from Prešov
  4. Slovak Greek Catholic Church
    – Prešov (1818) from Mukacheve
    – Czech Republic (1996) from Prešov
    – Košice (1997) from Prešov
  5. Hungarian Greek Catholic Church
    – Hajdudorog (1912)
    – Exarchy of Miskolc (1924)
Since it is the decision of the Byzantine Metropolitan Synod, it only applies in the USA. There is no pan-Ruthenian Synod that I know of at this time.

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theistgal said:
Now now, you’re talking about a sacred book here! :tsktsk:

At least it’s sacred to me! 🙂

I know there are a lot of more proper liturgists that don’t like this revised version of the D.L. but, after all, my first encounter with the Divine Liturgy was only a few short years ago, so this is the one I know almost by heart. :cool:

Sometimes I even sing through the various responses while I’m out driving in my car. My fellow motorists must wonder sometimes what radio station I’m listening to. :eek: 😃
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Indeed!

I remember when cartons upon cartons of those books arrived. The carping was HORRIBLE! Really, really bad. After the third Sunday Divine Liturgy with the new books Father asked people to remain in the church.

He very directly said this IS the book from the Church and it IS what we will be using until the CHURCH says otherwise! There will be NO PUBLIC discussion about it! If you have a problem come and see me but it won’t change anything I just said! That was LEADERSHIP!!!

Man oh man did he short-circuit the carping! That topic is still verboten at my Eastern parish. One family left – they have since returned. He never allowed peoples’ feelings for the book to tear-up our parish as they have so many others.

Looking back he did what ALL pastors should have done.
 
WetCatechumen said:
Yeah, if those Byzantine Catholics were actually CATHOLIC then they’d all use the Tridentine Mass and pray the rosary!
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Careful! That’s JUST what my current Ruthenian priest wants! We DO have a communal Rosary on First Friday evenings with the blessed sacrament in a chalice topped by a small crown (seriously.)

He DOES celebrate the EF Mass although fairly discreetly as not to anger some – althought knowing would delight others. One of the first things he sought here locally was permission from the local Latin ordinary (he was already bi-ritual.)
 
ElToro said:
Careful! That’s JUST what my current Ruthenian priest wants! We DO have a communal Rosary on First Friday evenings with the blessed sacrament in a chalice topped by a small crown (seriously.)

He DOES celebrate the EF Mass although fairly discreetly as not to anger some – althought knowing would delight others. One of the first things he sought here locally was permission from the local Latin ordinary (he was already bi-ritual.)
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Seriously?
 
ElToro said:
Careful! That’s JUST what my current Ruthenian priest wants! We DO have a communal Rosary on First Friday evenings with the blessed sacrament in a chalice topped by a small crown (seriously.)

He DOES celebrate the EF Mass although fairly discreetly as not to anger some – althought knowing would delight others. One of the first things he sought here locally was permission from the local Latin ordinary (he was already bi-ritual.)
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That’s awful … 😦

(*please note, I don’t think the devotions themselves are awful - they’re just fine in the context of a Latin Rite parish! but they should NOT be part of a Ruthenian parish!! :mad: )

Have you contacted your bishop about this?:eek:
 
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