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sistermouse
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Why are the Ten Commandments different in the Catholic & Protestant Chrches??
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MelanieAnne
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Maybe you can start out by showing where they are different?
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Byzantine_Wolf
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I believe she is referring to this difference.
Catholic Version:
*]I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me.
*]You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain.
*]Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.
*]Honor your father and your mother.
*]You shall not kill.
*]You shall not commit adultery.
*]You shall not steal.
*]You shall not bear false witness.
*]You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.
*]You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.
Protestant Version:
*]You shall have no other gods but me.
*]You shall not make unto you any graven images.
*]You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
*]You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
*]Honor your mother and father.
*]You shall not murder.
*]You shall not commit adultery.
*]You shall not steal.
*]You shall not bear false witness.
*]You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.
BTW, sistermouse, that’s a cute screenname
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MelanieAnne
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I believe she is referring to this difference.
Catholic Version:
*]I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me.
*]You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain.
*]Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.
*]Honor your father and your mother.
*]You shall not kill.
*]You shall not commit adultery.
*]You shall not steal.
*]You shall not bear false witness.
*]You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.
*]You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.
Protestant Version:
*]You shall have no other gods but me.
*]You shall not make unto you any graven images.
*]You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
*]You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
*]Honor your mother and father.
*]You shall not murder.
*]You shall not commit adultery.
*]You shall not steal.
*]You shall not bear false witness.
*]You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.
BTW, sistermouse, that’s a cute screenname
There is no substantive difference. If someone is going to get their knickers in a twist over NUMBERING they obviously don’t have enough work to do.
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Roman_Catholic_1
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As far as I know Lutherans accept the same 10 Commandments as Catholics do. So not all Protestants accept a different list of 10 Commandments.
As for why there is a difference in the numbering
In Exodus the Commandments are not numbered and there are more than 10 listed. So it is hard to answer as to the why the commandments were numbered how they were and why there is a difference.
God bless you
As for why there is a difference in the numbering
In Exodus the Commandments are not numbered and there are more than 10 listed. So it is hard to answer as to the why the commandments were numbered how they were and why there is a difference.God bless you
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Byzantine_Wolf
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Actually people try to pick on the wording or the supposed leaving out of certain commandments. For example, some people accuse the RC-version of the commandments of leaving out the command “no graven image” to support supposed “idolatry.” I am not arguing from this viewpoint (the command “no other gods” should be enough to include idolatry), merely explaining what the issue some people have is.
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MelanieAnne
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I guess people need to find a reason to argue sometimes.
It’s at least a handy way of avoiding TRUTH.
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ricko
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They both say the same thing. Sometimes you will see a shorten version in the Catholic Church. The non-Catholics get upset when they see this as our shorten first commandment does not say anything about not making graven images. These short versions are just for learning purposes. I, the Lord, am your God. You shall not have other gods besides me. This also covers making graven images AND worshipping them.
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GKC
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Confraternity Douay OT, Exodus 20:4:
You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth;
Deuteronomy 5:8:
Ditto.
No, not the idol bit.
GKC
You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth;
Deuteronomy 5:8:
Ditto.
No, not the idol bit.
GKC
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Joe_Kelley
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I wonder why the feminists do not get upset with the Protestant version which seems to regard the wife as just one more of the neighbor’s possessions.
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Roman_Catholic_1
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Perhaps no one has told themI wonder why the feminists do not get upset with the Protestant version which seems to regard the wife as just one more of the neighbor’s possessions.
npatrol:God bless
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Aidan12
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The Ten Commandments occur twice in the Old Testament, in Exodus 20 and in Deuteronomy 5.
This explains some differences, but the big difference is the source for the translations. It’s a little complicated, but if you realize that the original texts did not have numbers for their verses,then you can understand that the verses could be combined or separated, and that would change the numbering.
I think the Catholic numbering follows a system set up by St. Augustine who was following certain Talmudic Jewish numbering rules, and the Protestant numbering followed Hellenistic Jewish numbering. (I’m oversimplifying this,and I’m not sure of the details, but you get the general idea.) A couple of the verses were shuffled around the second century, I think, but they weren’t followed until the Bibles were being translated in the Reformation.
A lot of people have a peculiar idea that the Bible has been a complete text since forever. They don’t realize the teaching authority of the Church had to establish the canon of Scripture (what to put in and what to leave out), and that work wasn’t complete until many decades had passed after the Ascension. Even so, with canonical texts, there are manuscript copies with small variations. The Church has had to establish which of the variations belong as canonical.
Hope this helps.
This explains some differences, but the big difference is the source for the translations. It’s a little complicated, but if you realize that the original texts did not have numbers for their verses,then you can understand that the verses could be combined or separated, and that would change the numbering.
I think the Catholic numbering follows a system set up by St. Augustine who was following certain Talmudic Jewish numbering rules, and the Protestant numbering followed Hellenistic Jewish numbering. (I’m oversimplifying this,and I’m not sure of the details, but you get the general idea.) A couple of the verses were shuffled around the second century, I think, but they weren’t followed until the Bibles were being translated in the Reformation.
A lot of people have a peculiar idea that the Bible has been a complete text since forever. They don’t realize the teaching authority of the Church had to establish the canon of Scripture (what to put in and what to leave out), and that work wasn’t complete until many decades had passed after the Ascension. Even so, with canonical texts, there are manuscript copies with small variations. The Church has had to establish which of the variations belong as canonical.
Hope this helps.
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MelanieAnne
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And with all due respect, I have a strong suspicion that some people will believe what it said in the movie!
The website here show the numbering that different religious groups use. According to the site, Catholics and Lutherans number the same way, Orthodox, Anglicans, and most Protestants a different way, and the Jewish numbering different still. I would say they are distinctions that lack a difference.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments
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MelanieAnne
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Exactly!
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