The third Fatima secret revealed?

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NOTE: I found this extract from a relative of mine on her Facebook and it shocked me. I have questioned the legitimacy of what is written and I can honestly say that it does sound reasonable. Please tell me what you audience think.

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Nationality: Portuguese
Born: 3-28-1907, Aljustrel , Portugal
Died: 2-13-2005 (aged 97)
Convent of Carmelitas
Coimbra , Portugal

LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA

Regardless of whatever Creed or Religion, it is better to be
prepared and be in good terms with GOD,…who created us;
for we never know when we will be leaving this world…

LAST SECRET OF FATIMA

The Church has given permission to reveal to the people the last part
of the message. The Blessed Virgin appeared to three children in Fatima ,
Portugal , in 1917… this is a proven fact;one of these children was
Lucia, (died 2-13-05).

She was a cloistered nun, and lived in a monastery in Portugal .
Lucia disclosed the message for the first time; to Pope Pius Xll who,
after reading , sealed it and stored it away without making it public.

Later Pope John XXIII read it and, in the same manner as his predecessor,
he kept it out of the public eye because he knew that once revealed;
it would bring desperation and panic to mankind,

But now the time has come, and permission has been granted from Pope John
Paul II to reveal it to the children of God;… . … not to
create panic, but to make God’s people aware of this important message
and be prepared.

The Virgin told Lucia:
'Go, my child,
and tell the world what will come to pass during the 1950’s - 2000’s. Men
are not practicing the Commandments that God has given us. Evil is
governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men
will fabricate mortal weapons that will destroy the world
in minutes!.. … where half of the human race will be destroyed.

The war will begin against Rome , and there will be conflicts amongst
religious orders… …

God will allow all natural phenomena like smoke, hail, cold,
water, fire, floods, earthquakes, winds and inclement weather to slowly
batter the planet.

These happenings will come to pass before the year 2012.!!!
"For those who don’t/won’t believe… . . this is the time…
Your beloved mother told you:-

…those lacking charity towards others, in words & deeds and
those who do not love their neighbour like my beloved Son has loved you
all … cannot survive! They will wish to have died.

God will punish severely those who do not believe in him, those who
despise him and those who did not have time for him."
‘I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ.
God will help the world, but all of those who do not show fidelity and
loyalty will be destroyed!’

Father Agustin, who lives in Fatima , said that Pope Paul VI
gave him permission to visit Sister Lucia,a cloistered nun (she did not
leave the monastery nor was allowed to receive any visitors). Father
Agustin said that she received him greatly overwhelmed and told him:
'Father, Our Lady is very sad because nobody is interested in her prophecy
of 1917, though the righteous are walking through a narrow path, the
evil ones are walking through an ample road that is leading them straight
to their destruction! Believe me, Father, the punishment will come very
soon. 'Many souls will be lost and many nations will disappear from the
earth.

But, in the middle of all these, if men reflect, pray and practice
sincerity, good deeds, kindness and respect, the world can be
saved… . … However, if men persist with evil ways…greed, hatred,
selfish acts, rivalry, and rif, the world will be lost forever!.
The time has come for all to pass on the message of our Blessed Lady to
their families, friends, and to the entire world.

Continue praying, make penitence and sacrifices. We are close to the last
minute of the last day and the catastrophes are near. Due to this, many
that were far from the Church will return to the open arms of the Church of Jesus
Christ.

The joining of the churches will result in one Holy Catholic and
Apostolic Church; … England , Russia , China , Jews, Buddhists,
Muslims, Hindus,Protestants, etc… All will return believing and
worshipping God our Creator, in his beloved Son and in Blessed Mother
Virgin Mary.’

WHAT AWAITS US ???

Everywhere there will be ‘Peace Talks’, but punishment will come.

A MAN IN A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL
PROVOKE THE WAR.

A POWERFUL ARMY WILL DOMINATE ALL THROUGH EUROPE AND THE NUCLEAR WAR WILL
COMMENCE.

This war will destroy everything; darkness will fall over us for 72 hours
(3 days) and the one third of humanity that survives this obscurity and sacrifice, will
commence to live a new era; they will be good people.

On a very cold night, 10 minutes before midnight, A GREAT QUAKE will
shake the earth for 8 hours. This will be the third signal that God Is,
who governs the earth.

The righteous and those who propagate the faith and the message of the
Lady of Fatima is :
‘ONE SHOULD NOT FEAR, DO NOT BE AFRAID’.

WHAT TO DO??? : Bow your heads, kneel down and ask God for
forgiveness. Because, only what is good and is not under the power of
evil will survive the catastrophe.

In order for you to prepare and remain alive and safe, I will give you
the following signs:

ANGUISH… … AND IN A SHORT PERIOD THE EARTHQUAKE WILL COMMENCE…
THE EARTH WILL SHAKE…

The shake will be so violent that will move the earth
23 degrees and then it will return it to its normal position.
Then, total and absolute darkness will cover the entire planet.
 
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The shake will be so violent that will move the earth
23 degrees and then it will return it to its normal position.
Then, total and absolute darkness will cover the entire planet.

All the evil spirits will be mingling around and free, doing harm to all
those souls that did not want to listen to this message and those who did
not want to repent.

To the faithful souls, remember to light the blessed candles,
prepare a sacred altar with a crucifix in order to communicate with GOD
and implore for His infinite mercy.

All will be dark; and IN THE SKY A GREAT MYSTIC CROSS
will appear to remind us the price that his beloved Son had to pay for
our redemption… …

In the house the only thing that can give light will be the
HOLY CANDLES… Once lit, nothing will put them off until the three days
of darkness are over. Also, you should have holy water that should be
sprinkled abundantly on windows and doors. The Lord will protect the
property of the chosen ones.

Kneel down before the powerful cross of my beloved Son, pray the Rosary
and after each Hail Mary you must pray the following:

‘Oh God forgive us our sins, preserve us from the fires of hell, take all
souls to heaven, especially those who are in more need of thy mercy.
Blessed Virgin Mary, protect us, we love you, save us and save the
world’.

Pray 5 Creeds and the Rosary which is the secret to my
immaculate Heart. All those who believe in my words go and take the
message to everyone,

DO NOT FEAR! FEAR NOTHING DURING THE LORD’S GREAT DAY.
Talk to all, now that there is time. Those who keep quiet will be
responsible for all those souls who will perish in ignorance.

All those who pray humbly the rosary will have the protection of heaven.

Those who are bound to die, I will help them die in peace, and they will
be holy when they enter the other world.

I wish all my children to attend mass every first Friday and every first
Saturday of each month; to confess and receive Holy Communion; and in
doing so, save the world from its TOTAL DESTRUCTION. …!!

When the earth shakes no more, those who still do not believe in our Lord
will perish in a horrible way:-
The wind will bring gas and it will disperse it everywhere, then the sun
will rise.

Maybe you will survive this catastrophe.

Do not forget that God’s punishment is holy and… ONCE IT HAS STARTED YOU SHOULD NOT LOOK OUTSIDE, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!!!

GOD DOES NOT WANT ANY OF HIS GOOD CHILDREN TO SEE WHEN HE PUNISHES THE
SINNERS.

All this encompasses with the writings of the Holy
scriptures.

Read on the New Testament: Lucas 21
  • 5:121, 12:19, 20:20,
    29:33 Letters of St Paul 3 - 8 - 14 Isaiah 40, 1:5:9.
You must understand that God allows all this to happen. The Pope
and Bishops are now awaiting another message that speaks
about repentance and prayer.

Please remember that God’s words are not a
threat, but good news.

Please reproduce these pages and send them to all you know so we all can
have the opportunity to repent and be saved.

We do not know if those receiving this message believe or not in
GOD,…but just think that, if you are receiving this message it is for
a good reason!!.. from God who created us and loves us so much!

Our Creator is giving us the chance to be saved, no matter what religion
or creed we may be. If you don’t believe in this message, at least send
it to others, it costs you nothing.

To all those receiving it, they can have the opportunity to judge and
decide for themselves.

Remember, we can avoid a great deal of evil if we practice the
Commandments that Our Loving Father God gave us… Just 10 simple ways,
that if we all put into practice we can obtain God’s pardon.

Amen.
 
Hi, and welcome to the Catholic Answers Forums.

This is a very common question on CAF. I recommend that you use the Search command at the top of the page and enter the term “Fatima secret” to find several threads that discuss this topic.

The Church teaches that the 3rd secret has been revealed. You can read a summary of it here, with a link to the timeline of the events here.
 
It is believed that the third secret was never completely revealed. Pope Benedict when He was Cardinal Ratzinger said that the final message of Akita in 1973 was the same as the unrevealed part of the Fatma secret.

God Bless
 
Hi AussieAndProud,

You have generously submitted the following:
The Virgin told Lucia:
'Go, my child,
and tell the world what will come to pass during the 1950’s - 2000’s. Men
are not practicing the Commandments that God has given us. Evil is
governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men
will fabricate mortal weapons that will destroy the world
in minutes!.. … where half of the human race will be destroyed.
The war will begin against Rome , and there will be conflicts amongst
religious orders… …
God will allow all natural phenomena like smoke, hail, cold,
water, fire, floods, earthquakes, winds and inclement weather to slowly
batter the planet.
These happenings will come to pass before the year 2012.!!!
"For those who don’t/won’t believe… . . this is the time…
Your beloved mother told you:-
…those lacking charity towards others, in words & deeds and
those who do not love their neighbour like my beloved Son has loved you
all … cannot survive! They will wish to have died.
God will punish severely those who do not believe in him, those who
despise him and those who did not have time for him."
‘I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ.
God will help the world, but all of those who do not show fidelity and
loyalty will be destroyed!’
Father Agustin, who lives in Fatima , said that Pope Paul VI
gave him permission to visit Sister Lucia,a cloistered nun (she did not
leave the monastery nor was allowed to receive any visitors). Father
Agustin said that she received him greatly overwhelmed and told him:
'Father, Our Lady is very sad because nobody is interested in her prophecy
of 1917, though the righteous are walking through a narrow path, the
evil ones are walking through an ample road that is leading them straight
to their destruction! Believe me, Father, the punishment will come very
soon. 'Many souls will be lost and many nations will disappear from the
earth.
But, in the middle of all these, if men reflect, pray and practice
sincerity, good deeds, kindness and respect, the world can be
saved… . … However, if men persist with evil ways…greed, hatred,
selfish acts, rivalry, and rif, the world will be lost forever!.
The time has come for all to pass on the message of our Blessed Lady to
their families, friends, and to the entire world.
Continue praying, make penitence and sacrifices. We are close to the last
minute of the last day and the catastrophes are near. Due to this, many
that were far from the Church will return to the open arms of the Church of Jesus
Christ.
The joining of the churches will result in one Holy Catholic and
Apostolic Church; … England , Russia , China , Jews, Buddhists,
Muslims, Hindus,Protestants, etc… All will return believing and
worshipping God our Creator, in his beloved Son and in Blessed Mother
Virgin Mary.’
Unfortunatelly, this quote is not in any of the official documents submitted by Sister Lucia.
I have been blessed with the opportunity of studying most of the official documents of Fatima and as far as I can recall, Our Lady has never been attributed these words.

Could you please submit your source? Lately, there is a flux of circulating “messages” attributed to Our Lady and to Sister Lucia that do not have genuine validity in the Message of Fatima. They seem to promote more fear, confusion and distrust in the word of our Church than the hope that Our Lady came to bring to the world.

Thank you for your contribution.

To Jesus through Mary 👍

Edward Henry
 
Hi AussieAndProud,

You have generously submitted the following:

Unfortunatelly, this quote is not in any of the official documents submitted by Sister Lucia.
I have been blessed with the opportunity of studying most of the official documents of Fatima and as far as I can recall, Our Lady has never been attributed these words.

Could you please submit your source? Lately, there is a flux of circulating “messages” attributed to Our Lady and to Sister Lucia that do not have genuine validity in the Message of Fatima. They seem to promote more fear, confusion and distrust in the word of our Church than the hope that Our Lady came to bring to the world.

Thank you for your contribution.

To Jesus through Mary 👍

Edward Henry
Sorry Edward but there wasn’t any source. I just found this on my relatives Facebook. She has been blessed with the gift of tongues and other miracles. I thought that it was an interesting find and read so I uploaded here so the others can see. If it were a fake then I would thank you for informing me.

Cheers.
 
Sorry Edward but there wasn’t any source. I just found this on my relatives Facebook. She has been blessed with the gift of tongues and** other miracles.** I thought that it was an interesting find and read so I uploaded here so the others can see. If it were a fake then I would thank you for informing me.

Cheers.
Has this been approved by the Church or is she just claiming that?
 
Sorry Edward but there wasn’t any source. I just found this on my relatives Facebook. She has been blessed with the gift of tongues and other miracles. I thought that it was an interesting find and read so I uploaded here so the others can see. If it were a fake then I would thank you for informing me.

Cheers.
Cheers AussieAndProud,

I am not a Church authority either, but all I can submit to you is the following humble position. I have been blessed (without deserving it) with the opportunity of visiting and spending several summers in Fatima. During those opportunities I have read almost all the official documents on Fatima and I have had the opportunity to meet with the Shrine’s rector the chaplain, the bishop as well as many holy priests. They are wonderful marian people, they love and serve Our Lady, and they are very well informed and familiar with the actual revelations coming from Sister Lucia, and they would never give an ounce of credibility to any new additional revelation coming from outside, which is what this message on Facebook is.

As I said to you before. unfortunatelly there are many circulating “messages” that pretend to intend to lead us to "conversion by fear" but instead lead many readers to a sense of dispair, fear and distrust in the leadership of their Mother Church. The ancient deceiver has been at work for many centuries and he is very cunning, attempting to turn a Mother’s loving call to conversion into a message of doom.

Let’s never forget that in the Bible, it was the deceiver the very first one to “quote” the words of God to Adam and Eve, not in order to help them but to twist around the message. A lot of these circulating messages seem to have his same “signature”: pretending to leads us, while at the same time setting confusion and despair. The Queen of Peace and Hope cannot bring a message of despair and doom.
Let’s also remember that, Our Lady’s favorite Marian son, John Paul II would continuously remind us, even in the midst of his suffering: * “Be Not Afraid.”*

Heaven calls us to convert, but out of love, not out of fear.🙂

I pray this helps,

**To Jesus through Mary **👍

Edward Henry
 
Hello,
Our Lady of Fatima ordered that the secret be revealed in 1960. The alleged third secret that you just posted states that Pope Pius XII read the secret and hid it from the public. Pope Pius was actually obeying Our Lady’s wishes. Pope Pius XII died in 1958 and did not get the chance to reveal the Third Secret which was done later anyway by Pope John Paul II. Do you have a source for what you just posted?
 
Thank you for this post Aussie,

Regardless of it’s content, the salvific message is the same throughout all of our Blessed Mother’s apparitions - a life of prayer, a life of the spirit, nurtured by the Sacraments. Especially the Sacrament of Confession and Communion.

Live by the 10 Commandments; pray the Rosary; keep holy water in your home and blessed candles and crucifix - for the Warning and the Miracle will come to pass. The severity of the Chastisement will depend on our prayers and our obedience to the Divine Providence.

Be not afraid, I go before you always.
 
Great information in this thread, Thank you all for your contributions! 🙂
 
Interesting post.

There are two items that need to be completed.

1st. the correct Consecration of Russia (must be mentioned by name) to the Virgin Mary’s Immaculate Heart done by the Pope, along with the Bishops. The country Russia must be specifically stated. There have been several attempts of past consecrations but all of the past attempts were improperly done.

2nd the entire FULL 3rd secret must be released to the world especially to Catholics. Only part of the secret was released.

The above two requests was asked by Our Lady in the year 1917 in Fatima Portugal.
 
Interesting post.

There are two items that need to be completed.

1st. the correct Consecration of Russia (must be mentioned by name) to the Virgin Mary’s Immaculate Heart done by the Pope, along with the Bishops. The country Russia must be specifically stated. There have been several attempts of past consecrations but all of the past attempts were improperly done.

2nd the entire FULL 3rd secret must be released to the world especially to Catholics. Only part of the secret was released.

The above two requests was asked by Our Lady in the year 1917 in Fatima Portugal.
And both were done. The Church has said so. The Blessed Virgin Mary is satisfied, at least Sr Lucia, the seer of Fatima said so.

Even if they weren’t they are from a private revelation and in no way are they binding so they are not required in any way.
Regardless of it’s content, the salvific message is the same throughout all of our Blessed Mother’s apparitions - a life of prayer, a life of the spirit, nurtured by the Sacraments. Especially the Sacrament of Confession and Communion.
You err here. None of the messages from apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary are salvific messages. They are not required for salvation. No one is bound to believe in them. One may be a faithful Catholic and not believe in any of them.
 
And both were done. The Church has said so. The Blessed Virgin Mary is satisfied, at least Sr Lucia, the seer of Fatima said so.

Even if they weren’t they are from a private revelation and in no way are they binding so they are not required in any way.

You err here. None of the messages from apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary are salvific messages. They are not required for salvation. No one is bound to believe in them. One may be a faithful Catholic and not believe in any of them.
Why are you following me? Do I rub you the wrong way? The truth will set you free. Seek the truth, learn the facts, research. You will find that neither were done in the proper manner as Our Lady requested.
 
@perro sarnoso

Fatima is an approved Apparition. Hold on to the the story of Our Lady of Fatima. God sent his mother to give the entire world the three messages. The miracle was performed in front of over 70,000 people so that ALL may believe. Seek the truth, know the facts, do not allow anyone to tell you to not believe in this apparition.
 
Why are you following me? Do I rub you the wrong way? The truth will set you free. Seek the truth, learn the facts, research. You will find that neither were done in the proper manner as Our Lady requested.
Following you?

Does not matter if they were done as requested. The seer of Fatima said that they were accepted.

But other than that, they are a private revelation and not required for belief.
@perro sarnoso

Fatima is an approved Apparition. Hold on to the the story of Our Lady of Fatima. God sent his mother to give the entire world the three messages. The miracle was performed in front of over 70,000 people so that ALL may believe. Seek the truth, know the facts, do not allow anyone to tell you to not believe in this apparition.
Approval of a private revelation means that it is “worthy of belief” not required to be believed in.

It does not matter how many saw the miracle.

The Truth as taught by the Church is that no private revelation is part of the deposit of faith.

Here it is right from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called “private” revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.

Christian faith cannot accept “revelations” that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such “revelations”.
 
And both were done. The Church has said so. The Blessed Virgin Mary is satisfied, at least Sr Lucia, the seer of Fatima said so.

Even if they weren’t they are from a private revelation and in no way are they binding so they are not required in any way.

You err here. None of the messages from apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary are salvific messages. They are not required for salvation. No one is bound to believe in them. One may be a faithful Catholic and not believe in any of them.
The Blessed Mother only brings messages and words that God intends. She does nothing of her own will…only the will of the Father.
 
The Blessed Mother only brings messages and words that God intends. She does nothing of her own will…only the will of the Father.
Yes, I would agree with you on those private revelations that the Church has deemed worthy of belief. But saying that does not change the fact that they are private revelations and therefore we are not required to believe in them for salvation.
 
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