The Third Secret

[VitaminC]

I think they might be looking to convert some…But as for me I will listen to our pope , and not someone who is trying to spin things

Our current Pope has not made any statements with regard to the content of the Third Secret as Pope, with one exception: He sent a letter to an Italian author who wrote a book about the fabricated Third Secret called “The Fourth Secret of Fatima,” thanking him for the book and praising the sentiments that inspired Socci to write it.

And then we have Pope John Paul II who said on May 13, 2000:

“The message of Fatima is a call to conversion, alerting humanity to have nothing to do with the ‘dragon’ whose ‘tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth’ (Apoc. 12:4).”

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

??? I have no idea what you are talking about.

You stated in a previous post that you truly trust the Vatican. Why don’t you click on the earlier link someone provided and look at some actual Vatican documents rather than getting information from an undocumented source.

Do you not truly trust the Vatican? It states your profile as Catholic, yet you seem to want to argue with your fellow Catholics.

 

[VitaminC]

Do you not truly trust the Vatican? It states your profile as Catholic, yet you seem to want to argue with your fellow Catholics.

The Vatican’s chief exorcist has proclaimed that a number of cardinals are wolves in sheep’s clothing, under the direct influence of demonic forces.

We have approved apparitions like Akita and Lourdes warning of satanic infiltration of the Church, and Fr. Martin’s testimony that the Third Secret of Fatima partly involves this, too, along with a future pope coming under the influence of satan.

And Pope John Paul II’s own comments about the “tail of the dragon” is a reference to satanic clergy members and millions of Catholics who will be led astray by them.

So, for those who think none of this matters, given the particular content, it does matter.

Pope John Paul II never gave his assurances to the 2000 release concocted by Bertone and Sodano, and in fact during the same year he released his own publication of it directly contradicting his subordinate Cardinal Secretary of State.

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

The Vatican’s chief exorcist has proclaimed that a number of cardinals are wolves in sheep’s clothing, under the direct influence of demonic forces.

We have approved apparitions like Akita and Lourdes warning of satanic infiltration of the Church, and Fr. Martin’s testimony that the Third Secret of Fatima partly involves this, too, along with a future pope coming under the influence of satan.

And Pope John Paul II’s own comments about the “tail of the dragon” is a reference to satanic clergy members and millions of Catholics who will be led astray by them.

**St. Paul writes in 1 Thess. 5:19-21:

“Do not extinguish the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. But test all things and hold fast to that which is good.”**

 

[redrosetea]

Our current Pope has not made any statements with regard to the content of the Third Secret as Pope, with one exception: He sent a letter to an Italian author who wrote a book about the fabricated Third Secret called “The Fourth Secret of Fatima,” thanking him for the book and praising the sentiments that inspired Socci to write it.

And then we have Pope John Paul II who said on May 13, 2000:

“The message of Fatima is a call to conversion, alerting humanity to have nothing to do with the ‘dragon’ whose ‘tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth’ (Apoc. 12:4).”

Cardinal Ratzinger is our current pope. He has made not further statements because there is nothing left to say

He is a man of extreme kindness and tact…He didn’t recant his position at all

 

[VitaminC]

Cardinal Ratzinger is our current pope. He has made not further statements because there is nothing left to say

He is a man of extreme kindness and tact…He didn’t recant his position at all

Sophistry.

He already gave two contradicting explanations of the third secret when he was a Cardinal. First the third secret was about the “end times” and dangers threatening the faith and life of Catholics in 1984, in an interview with Jesus magazine. Then in 2000 it was suddnely about the failed assassination attempt, after Sodano ordered him to write the commentary.

Now as a Pope he sent a thank-you letter to a man who wrote a book about the 2000 release being fabricated, thanking him for the book and the sentiments that inspired it. And this was after the this author, Socci, called his Cardinal Secretary of State a “liar” with regard to what Cardinal Bertone wrote about the Third Secret in his book.

 

[BSHoop96]

Do you not truly trust the Vatican? It states your profile as Catholic, yet you seem to want to argue with your fellow Catholics.

This is a truly bizarre response and makes absolutely no sense in light of what I have said and you have said! **I am the one trying to get YOU to read the VATICAN documents **rather than quoting things you read in the “Fatima Crusader” or whatever. The Vatican has said that the secret has been revealed. You and VitaminC are bound and determined that the Pope and the Magisterium of the Church are trying to keep something from us.

AND of course Mary wants us to prepare. We have been told that for 2,000 years. WE SHALL NOT KNOW THE HOUR OR THE DAY so spend your life trying to be ready. I think you guys better get a grip.

 

[BSHoop96]

The Vatican’s chief exorcist has proclaimed that a number of cardinals are wolves in sheep’s clothing, under the direct influence of demonic forces.

We have approved apparitions like Akita and Lourdes warning of satanic infiltration of the Church, and Fr. Martin’s testimony that the Third Secret of Fatima partly involves this, too, along with a future pope coming under the influence of satan.

And Pope John Paul II’s own comments about the “tail of the dragon” is a reference to satanic clergy members and millions of Catholics who will be led astray by them.

So, for those who think none of this matters, given the particular content, it does matter.

Pope John Paul II never gave his assurances to the 2000 release concocted by Bertone and Sodano, and in fact during the same year he released his own publication of it directly contradicting his subordinate Cardinal Secretary of State.

If you are going to do this provide sources…real sources from reputable people in good standing with the Church or from the Vatican.

 

[BSHoop96]

Sophistry.

He already gave two contradicting explanations of the third secret when he was a Cardinal. First the third secret was about the “end times” and dangers threatening the faith and life of Catholics in 1984, in an interview with Jesus magazine. Then in 2000 it was suddnely about the failed assassination attempt, after Sodano ordered him to write the commentary.

Now as a Pope he sent a thank-you letter to a man who wrote a book about the 2000 release being fabricated, thanking him for the book and the sentiments that inspired it. And this was after the this author, Socci, called his Cardinal Secretary of State a “liar” with regard to what Cardinal Bertone wrote about the Third Secret in his book.

SOURCES???

Never mind. I’m leaving. Enough of this nonsense.

 

[VitaminC]

SOURCES???

Never mind. I’m leaving. Enough of this nonsense.

I don’t care what you do. You said nothing that convinces me that you have even a sciolistic level of knowledge in this area.

I already gave the sources.

The first was Jesus Magazine, November 11, 1984. I gave the source for this multiple times in this thread.

And here is a scanned copy of the relevant part of the actual interview from this magazine:

The Fatima Center | Promoting the Full Message of Fatima

The second is a personal letter to Dr. Antonio Socci, an Italian journalist and author of “The Fourth Secret of Fatima” (It.). If you want a copy of the letter, contact him and ask for one.

 

[VitaminC]

If you are going to do this provide sources…real sources from reputable people in good standing with the Church or from the Vatican.

I already gave the source for it in an earlier posting. Enough of the sophistry. It was May 13, 2000; homily, beatification of Jacinta and Francisco; content available on the Vatican’s Website.

 

[VitaminC]

The Vatican said it had been revealed. Is that not enough ?​

No, it’s not enough. There was a second assassination attempt on Pope JPII’s life at the Fatima Shrine in Portugal by a Spanish priest. The Vatican formally denied it. The priest lunged at him with a knife and drew blood.

What you hear coming from Vatican channels is not always truthful. They have a history of lying and covering things up, particularly with regard to Fatima.

And there is substantial direct evidence from numerous sources contradicting the content of the official 2000 release.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7674020.stm

 

[pnewton]

What you hear coming from Vatican channels is not always truthful. They have a history of lying and covering things up, particularly with regard to Fatima.

According to who? The Fatima Crusader???


No. I will stick with the Catholic Church and ignore the extremists and malcontents.

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

According to who? The Fatima Crusader???


No. I will stick with the Catholic Church and ignore the extremists and malcontents.

What is the humor in this? What you should be believing is the visionary Sister Lucia, who herself said there was more to the third secret. She is the source of all of this isn’t she.

 

[VitaminC]

According to who? The Fatima Crusader???


No. I will stick with the Catholic Church and ignore the extremists and malcontents.

How convenient for you to take what I said out of context with regard to the assassination attempt on JPII, and delete the BBC article link, and then ask, “according to who”, and then say, “fatima crusader?.”

That’s impressive. Yeah, go ahead and laugh. Dishonesty is exactly what the controversy is all about, after all.

 

[rinnie]

It has been revealed. The man in white (presumed to be the Pope) going up the hill, seeing dead churchmen, etc. It is believed it was a warning/foretelling of Pope John Paul II being shot.

Yes, he knew he was going to be shot, but I believe he also knew he would not die.

 

[Randy_Carson]

Here is the biggest secret of all → Only evil will cloak itself itself in secrecy in order to conceal it’s hideous nature.

The Truth, on the other hand, has absolutely no need for secrecy and it is really no surprise that there are no secrets in Islam… none whatsoever.

Really?

Then where is Osama Bin Laden?

 

[VitaminC]

Yes, he knew he was going to be shot, but I believe he also knew he would not die.

So, did he also know he was going to be stabbed by one of his priests at Fatima? Because he was, and it drew blood and the Vatican originally lied and said it didn’t happen.

There were two assassination attempts.

If you want to believe that the Blessed Virgin appeared in 1917 to three children to tell them that a pope 64 years later would almost be assassinated along with performing a miracle for fifty to seventy thousand people to see, feel free.

It just all makes perfect sense after all, doesn’t it? It especially makes sense when Cardinal Ratzinger, three years after the first assassination attempt said in an interview with Jesus Magazine that the third secret dealt with the “end times” and said zero about the shooting in this context.

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

So, did he also know he was going to be stabbed by one of his priests at Fatima? Because he was, and it drew blood and the Vatican originally lied and said it didn’t happen.

There were two assassination attempts.

If you want to believe that the Blessed Virgin appeared in 1917 to three children to tell them that a pope 64 years later would almost be assassinated along with performing a miracle for fifty to seventy thousand people to see, feel free.

It just all makes perfect sense after all, doesn’t it? It especially makes sense when Cardinal Ratzinger, three years after the first assassination attempt said in an interview with Jesus Magazine that the third secret dealt with the “end times” and said zero about the shooting in this context.

I understand that the shooting is only PART of the third secret. It simply isn’t totally revealed yet and I don’t think it ever will be. For the sake of the people, it can’t be.
I don’t get this post, are you saying you don’t believe Fatima or the 70,000 people who saw the Miracle of the Sun? If you don’t believe, are 70,000 people lying? Did the Secular News also lie that day when they, an atheist newspaper, proclaimed a Miracle did indeed happen? Please clarify. God Bless.

 

[rinnie]

Really?

Then where is Osama Bin Laden?

Ha Ha, Good one Randy!