The traditionalist and the modernist.

[Warrenton]

I’m not sure what you mean, since I can’t think of any examples of shifts that are both significant enough to be potentially problematic and also officially unaddressed by the Church. Would you mind giving an example or two so that I can better understand what you’re thinking of by such “shifts”?

One reads in one place that V2 virtually abolished the old mass, and in another place that it did no such thing.

One reads that it authorized all manner of different masses, and in another place that it did not.

One reads that there is no salvation outside the church, then that there is, but that nothing was changed.

 

[ConstantineTG]

I don’t think the Pope is as Traditionalist as Traditionalists would like. He’s made some good moves, however. Let’s list them, shall we?

• Summorum Pontificum;
• Rapprochement with the SSPX;
• Anglicanorum Coetibus;
• Investigation of American women religious;
• Revising the Missal;
• Tried appointing a conservative bishop to Austria.

The effects should be … interesting

Contrary to claims, the Pope is not a traditionalist. Nor a modernist. He’s exactly what a Catholic should be.

 

[Layman]

Forgot this one:

• Echoed what he was told by an Irish archbishop: that the clerical abuse crisis in Ireland had its roots in the effective shelving of ecclesiastical penal law post 1950’s.