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Montrose
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During this crisis receiving on the tongue is banned in several, if not many, countries. Rome has had full knowledge of this for months. They have not intervened to stop this so by default it is allowed by Rome.
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OrbisNonSufficit
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That’s not how it works. Once Law is promulgated, it applies whether it is or is not enforced. After Fifth Council of Lateran many Church abuses were banned but they were present and Rome did virtually nothing against them. Does that mean they were according to law? Not really.
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Montrose
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As I said in an earlier post you are stuck being legalistic. Frankly, I don’t care what it says. This is a public health crisis. Let it go and accept the Bishops Conference in many countries have made a decision based on medical advice.
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Now you don’t care what the church has to say on the matter, because it doesn’t line up with your views, yet earlier you attempted to say this:
Which honestly was quite legalistic of you, and you seem to only agree with the church laws when it lines up with your views, furthermore your views were wrong in that instance as well.
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otjm
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Memoriale Domine is subject to subsequent legislation - which is the GIRM.
He may or he may not, subject to subsequentl legislation. I am not going to argue an esoteric point that matters to extremely few. Any priest refusing to distribute Communion as described in the GIRM may find that he is going to have an up front and personal conversation with his bishop should the person so refused decide to take up the matter - and that sword cuts both directions.
Common sense says that a priest has a duty to protect the Eucharist. If his concept of protection does not fit within the law, he will have an issue with his bishop, and possibly with Rome (an example of the priest who refused to distribute to someone kneeling went to Rome, so it is not an unlikely scenario). MD is subject to any and all legislation since 1969, and may or may not be effectively made irrelevant, or may not.
I will repeat the point to which you responded: having Adoration, wehther on a weekly schedule of Perpetual, is going to provide excellent catechesis. MD or no MD.
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Pug
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I have seen crumbly hosts of the type you describe. In hindsight, there was something wrong with the batch. For three straight Sundays I saw several residual particles and on one day it shattered when placed in my palm.
However, even when nothing is noticeable when receiving, it is noticeable when using a pyx to transport hosts to the hospital. (one finds particles in the pyx). So I think even properly made hosts generate particles when jostled, so they can possibly shed them when placed in the hand. If I must receive in the hand due to illness, I scan my hand carefully afterwards.
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hope
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Unfortunately, I don’t think we will get an answer that I would like answered too because he has been suspended and I believe this thread will be closed before he can answer. What you wrote is what went through my thoughts as well. I believe he claimed things, like theft, that he believes without proof. I have had host that were more bread consistency but not often. Most times and in various parishes they are like you discribe.
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billsannie
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I’ve never carried the Eucharist in a pyx, so I can’t address that, except that I would think that these hosts would have to be jostled pretty hard to make them crumble.
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Margaret_Ann
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Who was suspended?
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CRV
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(name removed by moderator) - until August 26th.
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Margaret_Ann
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Oh that’s awful! 
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billsannie
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Indeed! I’d really like to hear his opinions on this, as he may know something I don’t. At any rate, I’ve wondered about this topic for some time and would like to learn more about it.
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hope
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Me too! My own memories are that I first saw it in Canada. I preferred this way. There were times that the Church I attended had Communion by intinction. I haven’t seen that in over thirty years. I wonder if the Bishops wanted communion in the hand in order to facilitate the standing in line?
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hope
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In my use of pyx, I have never found particles. Sunday I looked carefully and no particles.
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commenter
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I think you could private message him. If he is suspended, he would get your message either now, or when suspension ends, regardless of thread ending.
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Pug
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Perhaps the difference is that I am near-sighted (the particles look bigger to me). 
My pyx would have particles about 70% of the time.
My pyx would have particles about 70% of the time.
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hope
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I am near sighted too. I have never seen what you have. The difference might be how they are made.
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Pug
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Yes, I imagine more than one order bakes and presses the hosts, so they would vary some.
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Angel_Bradford
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I have received Communion in France, Italy, Germany, Greece, and Israel…always in the hand.
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OrbisNonSufficit
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They have indult to practice exception. According to law it is an exception that much doesn’t change.
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