The Truth About Islam

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**Even before Muhammad became a prophet, he was a warrior. He had fought in two local wars between his tribe, the Quraysh, and one of its rivals, the Banu Hawazin. In AD 610, when he began to preach his invented religion, Islam, in Mecca, the Quraysh rejected him. Outraged, he pledged to spill their blood, beginning with his uncle, Abu Lahab, who also dismissed him as a prophet. He thus railed, “May the hands of Abu Lahab perish! May he himself perish! Nothing shall his wealth and gains avail him. He shall be burnt in a flaming fire, and his wife, laden with faggots, shall have a rope of fibre around her neck.” (Quran 111:1-5)

In AD 622, Muhammad fled Mecca, to the town of Medina (originally named ‘Yathrib’; later re-named ‘Medina’, e.g., ‘City of the Prophet’), where a band of tribal warriors accepted him as prophet, and swore allegiance to him. He immediately began to lead military raids in the area, in search of booty, to keep Islam solvent. One such raid was directed against a caravan of his own people, the Quyrash, at Nakhla.

Muslim marauders killed and looted there, during the sacred month of Rajab, when fighting was supposedly forbidden. Muhammad justified the slaughter, theft and violation of religious law by arguing that the Quyrash’s opposition to Islam was a worse transgression than the actions of his warriors. In other words, according to Muhammad, Muslim fighting against the persecution of Muslims, by any means necessary, is the greater good. “They question thee, O Muhammad, with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: warfare therein is a great transgression, but to turn men from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in Him and in the Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a greater sin with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing” (Quran 2:214) **

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**Islam and Non-Combatants

The argument that Islam forbids the killing of non-combatants is yet another dangerous myth about Islam. The truth is Islamic legal authorities permit the liquidation of non-combatants, provided they live in such a way as to assist the enemies of Islam. In other words, if they are mere citizens or visitors of countries or societies in which Islam’s targets exist, they’re ‘fair-game’.

Indeed, it was the Nakhla Raid, extending as far back as the life and times of Muhammad himself, that established a key principle of Jihad: ANY ACT, HOWEVER HORRIFIC, THAT SOMEHOW BENEFITS MUSLIMS, IS JUSTIFIABLE. The objective moral truths of the great religions that came before Islam were openly discarded, in favor of a naked principle of expediency.

Nothing could testify to these ugly facts more dramatically than Osama Bin Laden’s killing of innocent non-combatants in the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and the actions that followed, on the part of his co-religionists, who captured, tortured and beheaded civilian hostages throughout Muslim lands.

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**In March 2002, a school in Mecca caught on fire. To prevent going up in flames, 15 female students inside the building removed their burqas. As they tried to escape, the Muttawa (Saudi Arabia’s religious police) saw they were breaking Sharia Law by not wearing their burqas, and trapped them inside the burning school. Municipal police and firemen battled the Muttawa to free the imperiled girls, but no avail. The Muttawa held firm, and caused the girls to be BURNED TO DEATH. **
 
**In March 2002, a school in Mecca caught on fire. To prevent going up in flames, 15 female students inside the building removed their burqas. As they tried to escape, the Muttawa (Saudi Arabia’s religious police) saw they were breaking Sharia Law by not wearing their burqas, and trapped them inside the burning school. Municipal police and firemen battled the Muttawa to free the imperiled girls, but no avail. The Muttawa held firm, and caused the girls to be BURNED TO DEATH. **
:nope:…I can’t believe such horrible thing! can u give ur link to this story?
 
**In March 2002, a school in Mecca caught on fire. To prevent going up in flames, 15 female students inside the building removed their burqas. As they tried to escape, the Muttawa (Saudi Arabia’s religious police) saw they were breaking Sharia Law by not wearing their burqas, and trapped them inside the burning school. Municipal police and firemen battled the Muttawa to free the imperiled girls, but no avail. The Muttawa held firm, and caused the girls to be BURNED TO DEATH. **
King, please remember that Mutawwa is not Islam. Do not rely on the acts of Mutawwas to defame Islam.
 
King, please remember that Mutawwa is not Islam. Do not rely on the acts of Mutawwas to defame Islam.
Yeah, of course muttawa is not islam, but muslims who happen to do their job in upholding the law of islam. I don’t think King was trying to defame Islam, he only told the reality in Islamic most “holy” state of SA…:eek:
 
Yeah, of course muttawa is not islam, but muslims who happen to do their job in upholding the law of islam. I don’t think King was trying to defame Islam, he only told the reality in Islamic most “holy” state of SA…:eek:
But do you agree that what the Muttawa did in this case was horrific?
 
**The West’s major problem with Islam today is that Islam is dangerously exploiting the West’s ‘split personality’. As a community of secular states, with a strong Christian culture underpinning that community, the West is repulsed by the idea of fighting for its Christian identity and heritage. That very thought flys in the face of decades of Political Correctness, which have conditioned the West to suppress its religious sentiments, and deny its religious roots, as a leading world culture. Islam, on the other hand, is overtly and zealously religious, and is attacking the West, especially the United States, as a religious nation, in the very name of its god. Its assault is straight-forward, strident, and boastful of its many acts of extreme terror directed against innocent lives.

In the face of this religiously inspired onslaught, the West struggles to defend itself with its ‘secular personality’, invoking its spirit of constitutionalism, with its code of social equality under the law. Yet this strategy, this approach, proves weaker by the day. It can’t stand up to the virulence of suicidal and utterly bloodthirsty, Islamic terrorism, founded on the most extreme forms of religious fundamentalism imaginable. As the secular approach continues to fail, Western Christians can’t help but feel increasingly endangered, for it’s obvious that Islam loathes and seeks to destroy anything and everything that’s not Islamic.

Western Christians, supposedly defended by their secular states, are, in fact, becoming desperate to protect themselves against Islam’s campaign of annihilation. It’s foreseeable that someday Western Christianity will be forced to fend for itself, and abandon its dependency on and relationship with the inept, Western, secular state. **
 
**The West’s major problem with Islam today is that Islam is dangerously exploiting the West’s ‘split personality’. As a community of secular states, with a strong Christian culture underpinning that community, the West is repulsed by the idea of fighting for its Christian identity and heritage. That very thought flys in the face of decades of Political Correctness, which have conditioned the West to suppress its religious sentiments, and deny its religious roots, as a leading world culture. Islam, on the other hand, is overtly and zealously religious, and is attacking the West, especially the United States, as a religious nation, in the very name of its god. Its assault is straight-forward, strident, and boastful of its many acts of extreme terror directed against innocent lives.

In the face of this religiously inspired onslaught, the West struggles to defend itself with its ‘secular personality’, invoking its spirit of constitutionalism, with its code of social equality under the law. Yet this strategy, this approach, proves weaker by the day. It can’t stand up to the virulence of suicidal and utterly bloodthirsty, Islamic terrorism, founded on the most extreme forms of religious fundamentalism imaginable. As the secular approach continues to fail, Western Christians can’t help but feel increasingly endangered, for it’s obvious that Islam loathes and seeks to destroy anything and everything that’s not Islamic.

Western Christians, supposedly defended by their secular states, are, in fact, becoming desperate to protect themselves against Islam’s campaign of annihilation. It’s foreseeable that someday Western Christianity will be forced to fend for itself, and abandon its dependency on and relationship with the inept, Western, secular state. **
Well-stated!

Once upon a time, Christians fought to defend their faith, literally as well as figuratively. Today, Christians rely on secular states to defend our rights for us, and we can see what a botched job secular states are doing.

Religious know they have something important and transcendent to defend if they must go to war to protect the Faith. Secular states, ultimately, are concerned with shoring up their careers as politicians; without a transcendent truth to struggle for, they only see the temporal world and use temporal justifications to convince aggressors that they must change their minds. Clearly, a losing strategy.

As much as I hate to say it, the best thing that Christendom can have happen to it (save an immediate spiritual renewal) is for secularism to fail utterly and for Christians to have to fend for ourselves. Then, the band-aid will be finally torn off and a turnaround can happen. But the crutches of dependency on secular protection must break, as no civilization is ever healed without a great upheaval first.
 
I suppose that will be the hardest part. Its one thing to say to turn the other cheek but its quite something else to have to actually do it. How many Christians actually practice our faith the way we’re supposed too? For everyone one that does there are probably 10 that don’t. Thus Christianity has become almost a brand name to be used when convient, rather than a way of life. The other faiths are capitalizing on this by taking action converting the disheartened and jaded. We have a long way to go before this trend turns around. It will get worse before it gets better. But it will get better.
 
It’s also worth noting that “turning the other cheek” has never been taught literally, such as a pacifist concept.
 
I suppose that will be the hardest part. Its one thing to say to turn the other cheek but its quite something else to have to actually do it. How many Christians actually practice our faith the way we’re supposed too? For everyone one that does there are probably 10 that don’t. Thus Christianity has become almost a brand name to be used when convient, rather than a way of life. The other faiths are capitalizing on this by taking action converting the disheartened and jaded. We have a long way to go before this trend turns around. It will get worse before it gets better. But it will get better.
I believe in the Catholic Church’s Just War doctrine.
 
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