The Truth About Islam

[friendship]

That’s fine. I’m just saying that the word “darling” in English has some very specific connotations, and is not the sort of thing that people who are not romantically involved with one another or otherwise very close would say. Like I could say it to a girl I were dating, but I would not say it to a friend, even though I love my friends, too. It would sound strange and inappropriate to say it to friends, because of its romantic connotations.

O.K. I understand.

 

[friendship]

So u’re saying they are not genuine muslim? they’re fake muslim? no wonder there’re more muslim killing each other because of this mentality.

If u said that u’re not God to decide whether they’re real muslim or not, then the same applied to u, u can’t be sure u’re real muslim. Eventually no muslims can be considered real muslim…

Is it so hard to understand? They may be muslims but Quran does not order them to kill people. Many murderers are christians, does that mean that christianity ordered them to kill others?

 

[friendship]

so your statement actually can be interpreted that u urself find that marrying prepubescent girl is an act of horror…then it’s the problems of u as muslim to make explanation about the same horrific verse saying that prepubescent girl can be married and later on can also be divorced…ur explanation about that very verse can only mean that even babies can be married before the marriage can be consumated…no…it’s not horrible to u knowing that they still can’t grasp the meaning of marriage since marriage for u is only matter of contract…

We just have one problem: sex with a child and Islam does not let us to it. other things you are saying are not problems of Islam. A man and a woman can marry eachother and they can leave eatchother . catholic laws are not important for us.

Don’t compare the bible to ur koran. While koran makes most verses as prescription to do or not to do for all muslims, the story of the bible should be seen as how God could always make the best of all sinners, they didn’t define their action to be followed as prescription for the faithful, but to take lessons from their fallen nature to repent and turn to the right way.

And if you said that bible tells something horrible, your Koran even tells how you should take care of your vital organ in a plain order…geeeeee…!!! and forgive me if the verse sounds almost like a suggestion to only have clean vital organ for wifes while with other women, u can always have whatever u like!

I do not know where Quran says it, but when your prophets can do that things our prophet can do these things. they don’t lose their prophethood cause of that works, our prophet too.

 

[seraphime2008]

Is it so hard to understand? They may be muslims but Quran does not order them to kill people. Many murderers are christians, does that mean that christianity ordered them to kill others?

u said as if I’m a stupid person really find it difficult to understand what u mean while u keep calling people darling. Seems that those “darlings” were more cynical then what it literally means. I think the other poster were feeling to what u mean. I’m not even saying the muslim who happened to kill others, I’m oly referring to the different sects of muslims that there’re are shiites, sunnis, ahmadi etc…etc. U are the one who says that the sunnis are not really muslim, at the context where no killing were mentioned…honey boney…would u like me to calling u that?..

 

[friendship]

u said as if I’m a stupid person really find it difficult to understand what u mean while u keep calling people darling. Seems that those “darlings” were more cynical then what it literally means. I think the other poster were feeling to what u mean. I’m not even saying the muslim who happened to kill others, I’m oly referring to the different sects of muslims that there’re are shiites, sunnis, ahmadi etc…etc. U are the one who says that the sunnis are not really muslim, at the context where no killing were mentioned…honey boney…would u like me to calling u that?..

It’s not my problem that you don’t understand. I didn’t mean that you are stupid but you realy don’t understand my sentences or don’t want to understand them.
And about “darling” my English is not good. If you some they try to speek Persian you’ll take such mistakes too. Other things you saying are answered before.

 

[seraphime2008]

We just have one problem: sex with a child and Islam does not let us to it. other things you are saying are not problems of Islam. A man and a woman can marry eachother and they can leave eatchother . catholic laws are not important for us.

ok…whatever then, i can see where u’re standing then. Then it only stresses how far muhammad have been straying from the real teaching of God of the previous prophets and messages revealed before. Your god seemed to have forgotten his previous teaching then…we might question whether he’s real god or just satan in disguise…

I do not know where Quran says it, but when your prophets can do that things our prophet can do these things. they don’t lose their prophethood cause of that works, our prophet too.
I’m not even talking about the legitimacy of prohethood.
The problems lies in your ideology taking Muhammad actions to be emulated, and even u can’t see what is sin and what is not anymore since he has make a different standard then the previous standard such as taking the stepson’s wife, marrying woman whose husband has been killed by u perhaps. The bible doesn’t say that those happened to be the sin actions to be taken as repetitive order. Can I say: is it so difficult to understand? …

 

[friendship]

ok…whatever then, i can see where u’re standing then. Then it only stresses how far muhammad have been straying from the real teaching of God of the previous prophets and messages revealed before. Your god seemed to have forgotten his previous teaching then…we might question whether he’s real god or just satan in disguise…

I don’t know why are you laughing? Yes. Of course. christians and jews was far from what god said them before & They agonized their holy books. Quran never claimed that is a new word from the God. Quran claims that is th book of Ebrahem and Moses(Quran87:18-19)

As I said before if you want know what is Islam, you must leave your orientalist books and read the holy nobel Quran and sure Hadises.

The problems lies in your ideology taking Muhammad actions to be emulated, and even as a formulae to follow. The bible doesn’t say that those happened to be the sin actions to be taken as repetitive order. Can I say: is it so difficult to understand?

No! You can’t. Because you didn’t understand again. We believe that torah and bible was from God, but we believe that this books you have them today are not what god sent. Quran says many things against your Bible, But Quran knows that bible says a different story.(Quran2:102) In our Ideology, prophets never sins like other people. In new testamen we can some verses which confirm this believe. I read your bible every day, Why you don’t try read Quran, to know what islam says?

 

[seraphime2008]

It’s not my problem that you don’t understand. I didn’t mean that you are stupid but you realy don’t understand my sentences or don’t want to understand them.
And about “darling” my English is not good. If you some they try to speek Persian you’ll take such mistakes too. Other things you saying are answered before.

Yeah…that’s why u don’t seemed to see the real topic of my original post. It’s not my problem I guess. Thanks to make it clear how you deal with people, typical of your alliance.

 

[friendship]

Yeah…that’s why u don’t seemed to see the real topic of my original post. It’s not my problem I guess. Thanks to make it clear how you deal with people, typical of your alliance.

When you finished your war with me, we’ll try to talk about Islam together! now, I’m going to sleep! I wish see you in my dreams.

 

[seraphime2008]

I don’t know why are you laughing? Yes. Of course. christians and jews was far from what god said them before & They agonized their holy books. Quran never claimed that is a new word from the God. Quran claims that is th book of Ebrahem and Moses(Quran87:18-19)

As I said before if you want know what is Islam, you must leave your orientalist books and read the holy nobel Quran and sure Hadises.

No! You can’t. Because you didn’t understand again. We believe that torah and bible was from God, but we believe that this books you have them today are not what god sent. Quran says many things against your Bible, But Quran knows that bible says a different story.(Quran2:102) In our Ideology, prophets never sins like other people. In new testamen we can some verses which confirm this believe. I read your bible every day, Why you don’t try read Quran, to know what islam says?

Then it’s the failure of god that so many people centuries before Muhammad had been strayed because god cannot protect his own messages and teachings…blah…blah…it’s not that I don’t understand honey boney, we’re just standing on opposite pole point of view apparently created by Muhammad. If Muhammad didn’t say those very verses that we have corrupted book, he will not be able to sell a new religion to his fellow arabian. It’s not that difficult to see that! It’s the dillema of Muhammad not the dillema of the Jews or the Christian.

 

[seraphime2008]

When you finished your war with me, we’ll try to talk about Islam together! now, I’m going to sleep! I wish see you in my dreams.

Let me again laugh at ur accusation of me warring u…ahem…reminds me of again…“ur alliance”. Please sleep tight, don’t dream of me taking arms to fight u…ha…ha…

 

[friendship]

Then it’s the failure of god that so many people centuries before Muhammad had been strayed because god cannot protect his own messages and teachings…blah…blah

Blah…blah?! You are tha master of fallacy. You don’t want to know. Your ideology says that peolple killed the only son of God and prophets of God. Didn’t God can protect his own son and his prophets? Wasn’t Jesus word of God? So why God let people kill his word?

If God interfered in what pepole do his massages and teaching, Then people was not free. People must be free to do good things and bad things.

it’s not that I don’t understand honey boney, we’re just standing on opposite pole point of view apparently created by Muhammad. If Muhammad didn’t say those very verses that we have corrupted book, he will not be able to sell a new religion to his fellow arabian. It’s not that difficult to see that! It’s the dillema of Muhammad not the dillema of the Jews or the Christian.

Quran never talks about relegions. Quran always talks about relegion. relegion of God is one. Islam is not a new relegion, as Quran says Ebrahem was a mulsim(Quran3:67) Relegion of god some times was called as judaism, some times was called as christianity and today is called as Islam. Your relegion is deferent? It is your problem. We have enough resons to confirm that prophet Muhammad is a prophet of God. Your accept or don’t accept, does not change the reality.

 

[friendship]

Let me again laugh at ur accusation of me warring u…ahem…reminds me of again…“ur alliance”. Please sleep tight, don’t dream of me taking arms to fight u…ha…ha…

Stop your Game. It is a so-called agument.:stretcher::bluelite:

 

[wwolverine]

What is bad in using “darling”? may you explain me? my English is not good. I never want displease you my dear.

I think we should excuse friendship from using the word darling cause as a muslim he cannot look at woman other than his sisters, mothers or very close relatives, and if he is married than his wife, so if he feels happy using such words on internet forums, maybe he wants to show how much he wants to use these words and other things but prohibited because of his islamic practice.

 

[friendship]

I think we should excuse friendship from using the word darling cause as a muslim he cannot look at woman other than his sisters, mothers or very close relatives, and if he is married than his wife, so if he feels happy using such words on internet forums, maybe he wants to show how much he wants to use these words and other things but prohibited because of his islamic practice.

And in this condition some ones say us “Cristianity is the relegion of love!”. Oh, some joy! Except they mean “loving the SATAN”. I love them and they give me accusations. No, You ever don’t know the meaning of love.

 

[wwolverine]

As I said Ayshaa accepted Islam 7 years before marriage.

And What is your problem? Don’t your holy book says that your prophets married with their sisters & their girls in love, and one of them has 1000 wives and other had sex with a woman witch has a husband, etc?

Hi Friendship,

Could you tell me why islam says that Jews and Christians are the people of the book?
Could you tell me why Islam says that right from Adam onwards are were muslims?

So why do you say Your prophets? you mean they are not your prophets too? and why dont you give quotes where you read the above information?

When muslims say Holy Bible is a corrupted book, why do you think these details which you specify still remained in the books?

As for Ayshia, its a known fact and its there in the muslim books. if you doubt read the book :“The wives of prophet mohammed” written by one islamic scolar.

 

[friendship]

Could you tell me why islam says that Jews and Christians are the people of the book?

Cause God gived them his book.

Could you tell me why Islam says that right from Adam onwards are were muslims?

What? please say me where Islam siad it.

So why do you say Your prophets? you mean they are not your prophets too? and why dont you give quotes where you read the above information?

Cause this faces of prophet which Bible says is diferent from what Quran says. and about qouts have look on here.

When muslims say Holy Bible is a corrupted book, why do you think these details which you specify still remained in the books?

We have enough reasons.

As for Ayshia, its a known fact and its there in the muslim books. if you doubt read the book :“The wives of prophet mohammed” written by one islamic scolar.

Excuse me! Who said you I didn’t read islamic scolar books? but we have enough answers. O.K?

 

[iamrefreshed]

And in this condition some ones say us “Cristianity is the relegion of love!”. Oh, some joy! Except they mean “loving the SATAN”. I love them and they give me accusations. No, You ever don’t know the meaning of love.

You are doing a great job pushing people away from Islam.

Keep up the good work!

 

[Mosacked]

Cause God gived them his book.

What? please say me where Islam siad it.

Cause this faces of prophet which Bible says is diferent from what Quran says. and about qouts have look on here.

We have enough reasons.

Excuse me! Who said you I didn’t read islamic scolar books? but we have enough answers. O.K?

fiendship, its no use.

You have your beliefs, we have ours. The problem really is this…

Our religion which is based on the Bible that is written hundreds of years BEFORE yours already warned us not to accept your prophet as a man of god because…

1- he denied the deity of christ thereby making himself an anti-christ (1 John 2:22)
2 -he called himself a prophet even though those before him already declared the last prophet was John (Luke 16:16)
3 -he had sex with little girls, his son’s ex-wife, killed people, took their wives, robbed and lied and jumped at the eclipse…all these showing him to be a cowardly criminal who would jump at any opportunity to destroy those who went against him.

So, you see, our Father already told us to shut the doors and keep you out before you even appeared, told us how to identify the liar and we know from our understanding of our Father’s will that someone like your founder can only be a total fraud. You can of course choose to believe him and make him your prophet, but if you ask me to choose between a book witnessed by the thousands verses one written by an unknown source with zero witnesses to its claims, I’ll pick the former. If you ask me to choose between one who was miraculously born, had impeccable character and is today not around on earth and waiting to return from the skies versus one who was dumped by his mother had a dubious character and today rotting on earth to be my greatest prophet, I’ll pick the former.

Don’t ask me why. Perhaps its because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.

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[friendship]

fiendship, its no use.

You have your beliefs, we have ours. The problem really is this…

Our religion which is based on the Bible that is written hundreds of years BEFORE yours already warned us not to accept your prophet as a man of god because…

Here, We are talking about Islam and for us your bible is not a true book. It is full of mistakes, contras and other problems. So you can’t challenge us with your bible.

1- he denied the deity of christ thereby making himself an anti-christ (1 John 2:22)

In islam, Jesus Christ has a great degree but he is not god. He is one of greatest prophets of God. Your bible says if any one says “he is not God” so he is anti-christ, so who pays attention to your bible? just christians! We love Jesus and your book says that we are anti-christ!!! What is it? huh! another biblical error!

2 -he called himself a prophet even though those before him already declared the last prophet was John (Luke 16:16)

Your Bible says it again! and Who pays attention to this?

3 -he had sex with little girls, his son’s ex-wife, killed people, took their wives, robbed and lied and jumped at the eclipse…all these showing him to be a cowardly criminal who would jump at any opportunity to destroy those who went against him.

These are lies. Where in basic historic books written that he has sex whith little girls? Where written that one of his sons had a wife to he have sex with her? Where in basic historic books written that he robben any thing or killed any one with no sin.When did he lie? When he jumped at eclipse? Why Do repeat the lies of your orientalists? Your orientalists are liar and you just repeat their lies for me. Show me Where in sirah Ibn hisham or Al-maqazi written these things.

So, you see, our Father already told us to shut the doors and keep you out before you even appeared, told us how to identify the liar and we know from our understanding of our Father’s will that someone like your founder can only be a total fraud. You can of course choose to believe him and make him your prophet, but if you ask me to choose between a book witnessed by the thousands verses one written by an unknown source with zero witnesses to its claims, I’ll pick the former. If you ask me to choose between one who was miraculously born, had impeccable character and is today not around on earth and waiting to return from the skies versus one who was dumped by his mother had a dubious character and today rotting on earth to be my greatest prophet, I’ll pick the former.

Don’t ask me why. Perhaps its because I have a brain and am not afraid to use it.

muslimsopenyoureyes

If you hate liars Why Do You Repeat Lies Of Your Orientalists? If you have brain it’s better to think more. and it is better you open your eyes. Our eyes are open.