The Truth About Islam

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What??? Please cite your sources that mohamad was a Christian??? :confused:
Yes, I’d like to see that too. Muslims say we are all born Muslim, but this is a new one. They also say that Islam had been practiced by the prophets of old, including Jesus, but got corrupted into what are Christianity and Judaism today.
 
Hi

Didn’t Muhammad marry a Christian woman and she taught him?

I guess I’m skating here, but I assumed since he believed in the Gospels (well enough to include them in the Qur’an he believed to some extent,~ but that is his relationship to God, to fulfil Ishmael but not Isaac)

just to reaffirm, I believe Isaac was put on the Alter as was ~Jesus was put on the cross to save all mankind. … but why then where THREE nations promised? Jacob with the Jews, Isaac with us and Ishmael with the Muslims??

I have no idea???, I don’t the mind of God, but hallelujah!

please help.

also what about the Virgins with the oil? 5 marry the Lord, not 1 but 5.

am I wrong in thinking Virgins stand for Principalities, if not WHAT is the Wedding Feast all about???

FYI IMHO maybe, I think the Lord chooses His friends from us (Catholic and Orthodoxy).

peace

David
 
Hi David, peace and blessings to you and yours,
Interesting post, i realise it is directed to Sr Maria, please both of you forgive me if i am rude in quoting it.
:confused: Aren’t you the one who, in another thread, chastised another poster for responding to a post not directed to him?
 
Hi

Didn’t Muhammad marry a Christian woman and she taught him?

I guess I’m skating here, but I assumed since he believed in the Gospels (well enough to include them in the Qur’an he believed to some extent,~ but that is his relationship to God, to fulfil Ishmael but not Isaac)

just to reaffirm, I believe Isaac was put on the Alter as was ~Jesus was put on the cross to save all mankind. … but why then where THREE nations promised? Jacob with the Jews, Isaac with us and Ishmael with the Muslims??

I have no idea???, I don’t the mind of God, but hallelujah!

please help.

also what about the Virgins with the oil? 5 marry the Lord, not 1 but 5.

am I wrong in thinking Virgins stand for Principalities, if not WHAT is the Wedding Feast all about???

FYI IMHO maybe, I think the Lord chooses His friends from us (Catholic and Orthodoxy).

peace

David
:confused::confused::confused: I really don’t know what you’re getting at. What is your obsession with the 10 virgins story? I don’t think it has anything to do with Islam.

I don’t know what mortgages have to do with anything, either. Yes, the bankers in the U.S. are corrupt, but I think murdering people who do not believe in your religion is much, much worse. I also don’t believe the Muslims take their financial cues from Jesus.

A few points (which should go without saying to someone who professes to be Catholic):
  1. The Koran was not written by God.
  2. Mohammed was not visited by the Archangel Gabriel.
  3. Mohammed was not a Christian.
Are you implying that Mohammed’s followers have been staging a huge coverup all this time to hide the fact that he was actually a Christian??? :confused:

You are seriously confused. Perhaps you should stop reading the Koran and take a Bible study class instead.
 
HI all!

I am quite hurt that many of you accentuate a hostility to me, and do not help me but criticizes without answer or helpful understanding. 😦

Who were the Nation promised to Ishmael? *

Who are the ten Virgins and who do they marry?

Why I am slammed because I want to foster a family relation between Abrahamic faiths, is he not all our Father?

and (and I know this a sensitive topic) Didn’t Bush snr. start the first ‘Gulf War’ in 1990?
I don’t support the war that going on just now, never did, not that any Americans might care but SCOTLAND has been anti-war from the time we got our own Parliament but Westminster still continues not to care about Scottish concerns. I am not American I do not support Americans love of guns and war and I have oil, don’t need anymore. you may not know this and may not care but the Scottish people here are pretty ticked of with Americans, mostly because the UK PM does whatever the US Pres. wants, and you don’t understand what soldiers do to these people, in the uk we have documentarys about (our) soldiers torturing Iraqs, but hey why care? ‘there only some pakis on the other side of the planet’ don’t write a letter to your politician, they deserved to die for the audacity of attacking the great America ’ land of the free and home of the brave’. you do not even understand what you have done or who or what these people are…and don’t even care.

I feel cherry picked myself for all these criticisms, not one of you quoted Jesus

“Blessed are the peace makers for they will be called ‘the sons of God’”

I came in here to support any Muslims getting blasted, to show them not all Catholics are mean and perhaps some are understanding… :mad:

as we say in Scotland ‘youz guys ur a bunch o’ tickets’*
I’m off

bye.

Dava

if you are humble enough to want me forgiveness you have it. peace in Christ, Jesus My Lord. nobody cared to ask how Catholic I am, the answer I am Traditional and understand Catholicism fine, Do you think I have not read 1. the new Testament and believed 2. various life’s of the saints 3. the Church Fathers, Nicaean and anti-Nicaean, these are the ones for and against Apocrypha which I have also read. :mad: but if I suggest peace and a family connection to Islam, suddenly it is assumed I do not understand Catholicism, Go on I dare you to blast the next thing I say, St.John Paul kissed the Qur’an, if you can insult a heavenly body such as he, you are a blasphemer of a saint. :mad: slandering what you do not understand.

*the last time God promised a Nation is was Israel.
  • a ‘Ticket’ is someone who only wants to fight, and thinks they are hard.
 
Yes. This is generally what I do. Pick only the good fruit from a tree and leave the others alone. What is wrong with that?
thank you Sid.

you out of all of these have been kind to me.

God Bless you.

David.
 
thank you Sid.

you out of all of these have been kind to me.

God Bless you.

David.
You’re welcome!
We may not agree on everything, but I think it only makes good sense to cherry pick the good fruit and leave the bad alone. I mean, when you go into a supermarket, who puts the rotten tomatoes in a bag, and buys them at the checkout stand?
 
Hi Steven, quoting here my post seems odd and I do not understand your point. It seems you really want to teach how we have to love our neighbors unconditionally. The thing is, I think you miss the point of this forum. This forum is about discussion. When a non-catholic insist on something other what the scriptures teaches, I am sorry that it might be corrected, otherwise it will a bad information for anyone who is seeking the truth.
Hi Rikkk,
I quoted David as there was some points to refer to, maybe i should have moved through point by point. I think David already does seem to be seeking to love unconditionally and was only trying to encourage him to continue this. I saw your post as very inspiring to do this without compromising truth. I am not trying to discourage discussion it helps me grow and corrects me. IMO you should not be sorry that things need be corrected, you are one of the few here that seem to do it with genuine kindness. Helping people from holding bad information is good.
Your style of debate is kind of offensive actually to anyone who posts. So refrain from this and try to get to the point.
Sorry if my posting is offensive to anyone who posts i guess that means i am offensive to everyone. Oddly i dont want to offend anyone. I have shocking language skills so have considered leaving and may need to.
Irking posters by their own post is not a good way to tell them that their post is wrong.
I did not quote David to correct him but encourage him. I tried to qualify my statement about David seeing cousins vs brothers by saying i respect what he offers.
Being a Catholic, we love our neighbors first and foremost but you have to be practical if some point when getting into a group whose intention is to discuss what is wrong and what is right.
Dont know i really follow all of this my language does let me down, most of your posts are very easy for me to follow and i use you as kind of a teacher, better said formatter (we have one Teacher) of how to construct language.
Their is no harm done in discussion beliefs. The bottom line is we need to get to the truth.
With you most of the time maybe all of the time this is true, with other posters at CAF i would really differ people are oft very nasty and flog the dead horse so to speak, not my reason for posting here, i was encouraging Dave to continue his loving.

Bless you Rikkk
 
:confused: Aren’t you the one who, in another thread, chastised another poster for responding to a post not directed to him?
Sister please, i was not quoting to challenge you at all and i even apologised to be clear it was not about what you were discussing but what Br. David was saying, please how are you confused?
 
Or the result of cherry-picking only what you like.
I did not see his religious statement the same way, but i have poor language skills.
I though he meant he sees seeking G-d first in Catholic teaching with some in Orthodox and least in Islam.

Not so much as in picking but seeking, yes as posters here are he is looking for clarification on what he is learning more than being told he is wrong in seeking G-ds truth in religions. Even Yeshua (pbwh) acknowledged truth in a Samaritain and to me pointed out G-ds goodness is in others seeking even if they do not know Him. Yeshua (pbwh) showed that the Samaritain had what Jews professed to have.

The Catholic Church does teach all three of these religions Br David spoke of seek the same G-d.

I seem very good at off siding people, please know my quoting you was not as a challenge but me seeing what he said different.

Peace and blessings
 
HI all!

I am quite hurt that many of you accentuate a hostility to me, and do not help me but criticizes without answer or helpful understanding. 😦

Who were the Nation promised to Ishmael? *

Who are the ten Virgins and who do they marry?

Why I am slammed because I want to foster a family relation between Abrahamic faiths, is he not all our Father?

and (and I know this a sensitive topic) Didn’t Bush snr. start the first ‘Gulf War’ in 1990?
I don’t support the war that going on just now, never did, not that any Americans might care but SCOTLAND has been anti-war from the time we got our own Parliament but Westminster still continues not to care about Scottish concerns. I am not American I do not support Americans love of guns and war and I have oil, don’t need anymore. you may not know this and may not care but the Scottish people here are pretty ticked of with Americans, mostly because the UK PM does whatever the US Pres. wants, and you don’t understand what soldiers do to these people, in the uk we have documentarys about (our) soldiers torturing Iraqs, but hey why care? ‘there only some pakis on the other side of the planet’ don’t write a letter to your politician, they deserved to die for the audacity of attacking the great America ’ land of the free and home of the brave’. you do not even understand what you have done or who or what these people are…and don’t even care.

I feel cherry picked myself for all these criticisms, not one of you quoted Jesus

“Blessed are the peace makers for they will be called ‘the sons of God’”

I came in here to support any Muslims getting blasted, to show them not all Catholics are mean and perhaps some are understanding… :mad:

as we say in Scotland ‘youz guys ur a bunch o’ tickets’*
I’m off

bye.

Dava

if you are humble enough to want me forgiveness you have it. peace in Christ, Jesus My Lord. nobody cared to ask how Catholic I am, the answer I am Traditional and understand Catholicism fine, Do you think I have not read 1. the new Testament and believed 2. various life’s of the saints 3. the Church Fathers, Nicaean and anti-Nicaean, these are the ones for and against Apocrypha which I have also read. :mad: but if I suggest peace and a family connection to Islam, suddenly it is assumed I do not understand Catholicism, Go on I dare you to blast the next thing I say, St.John Paul kissed the Qur’an, if you can insult a heavenly body such as he, you are a blasphemer of a saint. :mad: slandering what you do not understand.

*the last time God promised a Nation is was Israel.
  • a ‘Ticket’ is someone who only wants to fight, and thinks they are hard.
Yes Our Father made a promise to Ishmael (pbuh) so the bible narrates. It is not for me to be against His word and best i see in your posts not for you either.

CAF is not a place where all are for encouraging good in others many believe it is a place to kick those of other professions in the guise of debate. Many who join after me are quick to point out it is not for encourage of goodness but a place to teach correction.

My whole life is for encouraging goodness even in evil places that profess other wise. May G-d have mercy on me for the many times i fall from this.

For me G-d teaches me to seek His goodness every where and to help those looking for Him.

IMO Yeshua (pbwh) went down to meet people where they were and did not sit up in a lofty place saying you cant be helped while down there here is the place to be.

Should have read all of your post before posting see you are gone as do many peace makers who have come to CAF.
 
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