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foundthelight
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I dislike it intensely. Our calendar is is based on “Anno Domini” not the “Common Era”. Why have so many Catholics accepted CE in common usage? IMHO CE denies Christ and His sacrifice.
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SuscipeMeDomine
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CE impresses me as being somewhat silly. What is it that happened to change BCE to CE…that wouldn’t be the birth of Christ, would it?
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kentuckyliz
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Here’s a cheeky way to foil the CE/BCE way of evading any mention of Christ.
Read it as “Christian Era” and “Before the Christian Era.”
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Read it as “Christian Era” and “Before the Christian Era.”
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Tim_Kirchoff
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I am so remembering this!Here’s a cheeky way to foil the CE/BCE way of evading any mention of Christ.
Read it as “Christian Era” and “Before the Christian Era.”
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MH84
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I think referring to CE as being the “Christian Era” is common.
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Joe_Kelley
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Or to be really partisan
Catholic Era
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Before Catholic Era
Catholic Era
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Before Catholic Era
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inthecloud
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How the fundamentalist and SDA missed that?
Another sign of the Whore of Babylon and the Antichrist, the true mark of the Beast. The Calendar.
Does Jack Chick knows that?
Another sign of the Whore of Babylon and the Antichrist, the true mark of the Beast. The Calendar.
Does Jack Chick knows that?
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roanoker
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The use of CE and BCE first began being used I believed about 35 years ago. I think it started as an archeological term, and then spread. Using these terms is a snide way to inform others that you do think that Christ was important in history, and at the same time appearing intellectual and “progressive”. I hate these tems! Roanoker
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JMJ_coder
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Hello,
I once got into an argument with my history professor over this. She wanted everyone to use CE/BCE and I would only use A.D./B.C… Let’s just say neither of us backed down - I did pass the course, but not because the professor did me any favors.
The question I would have is - What is so common about the common era?
If they (atheists, secularists, etc.) want their own calendar, let them make one - just don’t steal ours and expect us to forget about ours. There is a special calendar for the U.S. that is mentioned in Constitution and Articles of Confedration - based on 1776 A.D. as year one - i.e., the Constitution was ratified in the Twelfth Year of the Independence of the United States. Likewise, the French have a calendar based off of their revolution.
I once got into an argument with my history professor over this. She wanted everyone to use CE/BCE and I would only use A.D./B.C… Let’s just say neither of us backed down - I did pass the course, but not because the professor did me any favors.
The question I would have is - What is so common about the common era?
If they (atheists, secularists, etc.) want their own calendar, let them make one - just don’t steal ours and expect us to forget about ours. There is a special calendar for the U.S. that is mentioned in Constitution and Articles of Confedration - based on 1776 A.D. as year one - i.e., the Constitution was ratified in the Twelfth Year of the Independence of the United States. Likewise, the French have a calendar based off of their revolution.
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puzzleannie
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why do you personally know many Catholics who have adopted this method of dating? the only place I see it is in certain academic journals, many of which are notoriously anti-religion in general, so I don’t know why you ascribe this practice to Catholics.
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Epistemes
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I hardly ever use Anno Domini. It’s highly anachronistic.
How I refer to the calendar is really quite insignificant.
How I refer to the calendar is really quite insignificant.
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Ron_Conte
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Originally, the term was ‘ab incarnatione Domini’, from the incarnation of the Lord, which was placed by Dionysius in 1 B.C.
But he actually did not use the term B.C., nor even the term A.D.
These developed later.
I think that Dionysius was off in his dating of the Birth of Christ, so Jesus was actually born in the year called before Christ.
But he actually did not use the term B.C., nor even the term A.D.
These developed later.
I think that Dionysius was off in his dating of the Birth of Christ, so Jesus was actually born in the year called before Christ.
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Pious_Mat
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There is also the fact that Our Lord probably wasn’t born in the year 0 A.D. or 1 B.C. This date was only ever an educated guess. Mind you, it was a very good guess that is no more than eight years off.
What about the old Roman Calendar? That would make it year 2761 AUC.
Regardless of this, I still don’t agree with the Secular world deciding how the Calendar works. In fact, if it weren’t for a Pope, we wouldn’t have our present Gregorian Calendar.
However, the BCE CE system is not new. Common Ear refers to the Regnal dating systems that occured when each country had its own calendar. “Common” refers to a common calendar. It is rather arbitrary to apply this to AD 0, since regnal dating was still widespread at that time. Nevertheless, the idea of a “Common Era” goes all the way back to Johannes Kepler in 1615.
As for me, I think we should use AD, because it is Christian, and because it is the same in all languages due to its Latin character.
As for BC, it is different in every language, and I think we all ought to use ACN, the Latin equivalent (Ante Christum Natum). This is much shorter than what most languages use. For example, the French use “avant J.C.” and the Germans use “v. Chr. Geb.”
What’s interesting about CE and BCE is that even if we use them to sound more “politically correct,” we still have deal with the fact that the whole time system is still measured based on the traditional date for the Incarnation of the Christian God. There is also religion in the days’ names. Each day in the English language is named after a Norse God. If Christians aren’t offended by the days’s names, secularists shouldn’t be offended by AD/BC.
What about the old Roman Calendar? That would make it year 2761 AUC.
Regardless of this, I still don’t agree with the Secular world deciding how the Calendar works. In fact, if it weren’t for a Pope, we wouldn’t have our present Gregorian Calendar.
However, the BCE CE system is not new. Common Ear refers to the Regnal dating systems that occured when each country had its own calendar. “Common” refers to a common calendar. It is rather arbitrary to apply this to AD 0, since regnal dating was still widespread at that time. Nevertheless, the idea of a “Common Era” goes all the way back to Johannes Kepler in 1615.
As for me, I think we should use AD, because it is Christian, and because it is the same in all languages due to its Latin character.
As for BC, it is different in every language, and I think we all ought to use ACN, the Latin equivalent (Ante Christum Natum). This is much shorter than what most languages use. For example, the French use “avant J.C.” and the Germans use “v. Chr. Geb.”
What’s interesting about CE and BCE is that even if we use them to sound more “politically correct,” we still have deal with the fact that the whole time system is still measured based on the traditional date for the Incarnation of the Christian God. There is also religion in the days’ names. Each day in the English language is named after a Norse God. If Christians aren’t offended by the days’s names, secularists shouldn’t be offended by AD/BC.
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Gottle_of_Geer
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I think it’s useful, especially in academic publications: which are commonly read by people of very varied cultural backgrounds. I don’t see why Jews should have to translate from their era - which begins with Year 3761 before the creation - to one called by the name of someone Judaism has long regarded as a false prophet. Reckoning by the “Common Era” is a sensible compromise: the Encyclopedia Judaica uses it.
I have no problems with it. If any point of faith were involved, that would be different; none is. Why should Muslims, Sikhs & others use the Christian calendar ?
Besides, all sorts of different calendric reckonings have been used by Christians: not to mention those used by the Armenians (dating from 551 AD), the Julian Calendar formerly used by the Russian Orthodox, the Era of Diocletian, the Era of Creation beginning in 5198 BC, & others. There is absolutely nothing sacred or immutable about the Gregorian Calendar - there are those calendars, & others too.
I have no problems with it. If any point of faith were involved, that would be different; none is. Why should Muslims, Sikhs & others use the Christian calendar ?
Besides, all sorts of different calendric reckonings have been used by Christians: not to mention those used by the Armenians (dating from 551 AD), the Julian Calendar formerly used by the Russian Orthodox, the Era of Diocletian, the Era of Creation beginning in 5198 BC, & others. There is absolutely nothing sacred or immutable about the Gregorian Calendar - there are those calendars, & others too.
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MH84
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I guess we should change CHRIST-MAS to “Presents’ day”.
We should also change Holy day (“holiday”) to “public day off”.
We should also change Holy day (“holiday”) to “public day off”.
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Pong
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Haven’t you heard? We Catholics are the only ones with correct viewpoints on everything, including the calendar. It is our sworn duty to force others to adhere to our way. Those who don’t like it can sod off.
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j1s2a3
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Any time one seeks “likeness” its better explained as flattery.
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tau_gamma_pi
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I saw the title of this thread and thought “what’s wrong with the Catholic Encyclopedia?”
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juliamajor
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Who cares and why should it be a big deal?Lots of calendars dated by different methods.One doesn’t make you more or less of a Christian.
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Joe_Kelley
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C.E. = Catholic Era
B.C.E. = Before Catholic Era
B.C.E. = Before Catholic Era
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