The Various Relic Degrees?

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I asked this question in the Apologist forum but got no answer. Not sure why. So I’ll try here…

What are the various degrees associated with relics? I think a 3rd degree relic is something like a piece of fabric that was touched to a 2nd or 1st degree relic?

What constitutes a 1st degree relic, 2nd degree relic?

Is there a limit? Can there be a 20th degree relic that touched a 19th degree relic?

I’m not trying to be funny. I’m looking for a good description/definition.

I am considering getting a 3rd degree relic of St Gemma.

Thank you in advance.
 
A first-class relic is a part of the body of a saints. E.g. hair, or part of a bone.
A second-class relic is a object which the saint owned and used. E.g. the cassock he wore, etc.
A third-class relic is an object touched to a first/second-class relic.
 
If an object is deemed a relic because it has touched the body of a Saint, would I be a walking relic since I touched The Body of Christ today (Communion)?
 
If an object is deemed a relic because it has touched the body of a Saint, would I be a walking relic since I touched The Body of Christ today (Communion)?
The effect or the “grace” received through Communion is on the soul receiving the Body of Christ, not on the person’s physical body or form such as that of an object touching a 1st or second class relic.
 
I asked this question in the Apologist forum but got no answer. Not sure why. So I’ll try here…

What are the various degrees associated with relics? I think a 3rd degree relic is something like a piece of fabric that was touched to a 2nd or 1st degree relic?

What constitutes a 1st degree relic, 2nd degree relic?

Is there a limit? Can there be a 20th degree relic that touched a 19th degree relic?

I’m not trying to be funny. I’m looking for a good description/definition.

I am considering getting a 3rd degree relic of St Gemma.

Thank you in advance.
AFAIK:

A first-class relic is technically a given saint’s body part (say, a bone fragment or a strand or hair). In the case of Jesus, where you obviously have no mortal remains of His lying around, a first class relic could be any item directly associated with the events of His life (say, a piece of the cross or a part of the manger).

A second-class relic is often an item that a saint wore or used during his or her lifetime. Clothing items (shirts, gloves, etc.) and paraphernalia (crucifixes, books, etc.) would fall under this category. Oftentimes the shreds of clothing would be labelled as ex indumentis “from the clothing”.

A third-class relic would be something that has come into contact with a first- or second- class relic. Nowadays pieces of fabric are the material of choice, although back in the old days pilgrims collected holy oil from different holy sites (the Holy Land, St. Menas’ tomb, the holy house at Loreto, etc.) These oils would also technically classify as third-class relics, if I’m not mistaken.
 
To answer your question, relics are - as others already said - either part of the actual body of a saint, a thing they touched or used in life, or a thing that has been touched to a relic that then becomes a “third-class” relic. No, one can’t have a “19th-class relic” or anything like that. You can’t make another relic by touching something to a third-class one.

The Church actually doesn’t really have official rules about how it works outside of talking about first and second-class relics. Those can NEVER be bought and sold, by the way, without committing a serious sin. But the ancient Christian practice of making your own relic by touching a first or second-class relic with a piece of cloth, a holy card, a rosary, a medal, or anything appropriate like that is a noble one that should be encouraged. You can also make a third-class relic just by touching something to the tomb/reliquary of a saint (i.e. the stone or glass).
 
To answer your question, relics are - as others already said - either part of the actual body of a saint, a thing they touched or used in life, or a thing that has been touched to a relic that then becomes a “third-class” relic. No, one can’t have a “19th-class relic” or anything like that. You can’t make another relic by touching something to a third-class one.

The Church actually doesn’t really have official rules about how it works outside of talking about first and second-class relics. Those can NEVER be bought and sold, by the way, without committing a serious sin. But the ancient Christian practice of making your own relic by touching a first or second-class relic with a piece of cloth, a holy card, a rosary, a medal, or anything appropriate like that is a noble one that should be encouraged. You can also make a third-class relic just by touching something to the tomb/reliquary of a saint (i.e. the stone or glass).
Thank you. Very helpful.
 
I asked this question in the Apologist forum but got no answer. Not sure why. So I’ll try here…

What are the various degrees associated with relics? I think a 3rd degree relic is something like a piece of fabric that was touched to a 2nd or 1st degree relic?

What constitutes a 1st degree relic, 2nd degree relic?

Is there a limit? Can there be a 20th degree relic that touched a 19th degree relic?

I’m not trying to be funny. I’m looking for a good description/definition.

I am considering getting a 3rd degree relic of St Gemma.

Thank you in advance.
Sadly the Church has no documentation on what constitutes a third class relic. Traditionally it was an item touched only to a first class relic, not a second class relic.
Because of no Church docs on this and because many people are scrambling for relics how a third class relic is achieved is now becoming so watered down as to be almost meaningless.
Therefore, although it is already not good it could theoretically result in lots of classes of relics making it totally ridiculous.
 
Remember that cures of persons that have been used for sainthood causes sometimes involved something as remote as a flower petal from a plant in a pot near a saint’s tomb in a church being applied to a sick person…
 
Remember that cures of persons that have been used for sainthood causes sometimes involved something as remote as a flower petal from a plant in a pot near a saint’s tomb in a church being applied to a sick person…
Okay then. You have cited an example. Please give details of that one.
 
Okay then. You have cited an example. Please give details of that one.
The Church does not define the nature of, nor regulate third-class relics, as you noted earlier. There is a great deal of latitude in the practice at the discretion of individual Christians.

There is no reference online to the miracle I mentioned above, though I learned about it at the shrine of the Venerable in question (see marytheresadudzik.org/english/cause/cause.php – it is the miracle from 2003)

Below are two examples of what I was referring to.

Here is the first example, albeit from Wikipedia - note that dipping an object in water in which a relic had earlier been dipped is getting pretty remote from direct contact with a first-class relic! 🙂

“The importance of relics in the Byzantine world can be seen from the veneration given to the pieces of the True Cross, believed to have been discovered by Helena, mother of Constantine I in the fourth century. Other significant relics included the girdle worn by the Virgin, and pieces of the body or clothing of saints. Such relics were, however, scarce and did not provide most believers with ready access to proximity to the holy. The growth in the production and popularity of reproducible contact relics in the fifth and sixth centuries testifies to the need felt for more widespread access to the divine. These contact relics usually involved the placing of readily available objects, such as pieces of cloth, clay tablets, or water then bottled for believers, in contact with a relic. Alternatively, such objects could be dipped into water which had been in contact with the relic (such as the bone of a saint). These relics increased the availability of access to the divine but were not infinitely reproducible (an original relic was required), and still usually required believers to undertake pilgrimage or have contact with somebody who had.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Iconoclasm

And…

Another famous example, involving oil simply burning in the lamp in front of the altar above which repose the relics of St. Philomena in a large reliquary:

“A Mother of a blind child took some oil from the lamp burning besides the tomb of ST Philomena and rubbed it against the eyes of the child and the child regained his lost vision.”

reachjesus.blogspot.com/2012/05/saint-philomena-young-virgin-and-martyr.html

I hope that helps. Third-class relics and the entire practice of venerating relics and holy objects associated with them is a wonderful way to stay close to the Lord through his saints. Let’s be as generous as possible in our use and encouragement of them 👍
 
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