The Vatican in Muslim Europe

  • Thread starter Thread starter AgnosTheist
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
A

AgnosTheist

Guest
Seems like too many, if not most, people are resigned to the idea the Muslims will eventually take over europe because they multiply. Some stats are saying that in just 50 years or so some europeans would find themselves the minorities in their own countries. What would be the future of the Vatican in a muslim Italy if that happens? Imagine the Pope becoming a dhimmi. Even I find that idea revolting. 🤷
 
I’m no expert, so it’s hard to say really. But I would suggest that as Islamic countries try to become more like Europeans, their populations will go down. Also, I think Muslim countries will eventually end their tyranny, and will allow Christians into their countries and allow free conversion. If this happens, I believe huge numbers of Muslims will convert to Christianity, and eventually Christianity will dominate.
 
Seems like too many, if not most, people are resigned to the idea the Muslims will eventually take over europe because they multiply like…excuse me…pigs. Some stats are saying that in just 50 years or so some europeans would find themselves the minorities in their own countries. What would be the future of the Vatican in a muslim Italy if that happens? Imagine the Pope becoming a dhimmi. Even I find that idea revolting. 🤷
According to a statement made by a Muslim poster sometime ago, Muslims will take over Italy and the Vatican will have to move. According to him, it’s just a pimple on the map! :mad:

Vickie
 
My hope is that more and more people come to the truth. We really all have to pray for this. There used to be a prayer in Christianity that said something like Dear Lord, save us from Islam. More than likely, they meant their lives.

I think one thing we have to keep in mind is that even if there are only 2 Catholics left on Earth, then you have to stick with it. It doesn’t matter about numbers. But I also believe the numbers of Christians will rise considerably as nations become more open.
 
Also, I think Muslim countries will eventually end their tyranny, and will allow Christians into their countries and allow free conversion. If this happens, I believe huge numbers of Muslims will convert to Christianity, and eventually Christianity will dominate.
I doubt it. Look, there are many muslims living in the free & prosperous west, and how many of them switched over to christianity? Very rare. The opposite is happening, the muslims are converting you. I know why. Its because Muslims are raised into seeing christianity as a corrupt religion and christians as second class humans. Their Quran itself directly instructs muslims to reject the Trinity. Thus Muslims see nothing but evil in the Trinity doctrine. They especially find Catholicism revolting, with all your graven images and jesus-worshipings. Its so wrong to them.

The opposite is true with Catholics, a lot of you find homely familiarity & respect with their beliefs.
 
Muslims are not to blame for overtaking over the post-Christian Europe. It’s the Europeans themselves who are at fault. If they hadn’t accepted all kinds of weird and anti-Christian ideas, and hadn’t come to love their own comfort more than God, they wouldn’t be dying out, and churches wouldn’t have to be closed to give way to mosques.
Nobody else can destroy Christianity (Romans tried, but failed, so did Muslims centuries ago), only Christians themselves, by becoming lukewarm and imagining themselves as gods.
 
^ I agree. But the damage is done, what are you europeans gonna do about it?
 
Apparently pretend, that everything is ok, roll over and die… mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sick/sick0012.gif
They say, every civilization reaches a point, when it becomes too much into itself, becomes too proud, lazy and decadent, and eventually destroys itself. God knows, what’s to become of us…
 
Apparently pretend, that everything is ok, roll over and die… mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sick/sick0012.gif
They say, every civilization reaches a point, when it becomes too much into itself, becomes too proud, lazy and decadent, and eventually destroys itself. God knows, what’s to become of us…
Well, at least we can take comfort from Jesus’ words that not even the gates of hell would prevail against his Church and our Lady who told us that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph.

Vickie:)
 
Well, at least we can take comfort from Jesus’ words that not even the gates of hell would prevail against his Church and our Lady who told us that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph.
Amen! 👍
 
^ Catholics can still say that Motto even after the Pope is forced to migrate to Mexico. 😃
 
Seems like too many, if not most, people are resigned to the idea the Muslims will eventually take over europe because they multiply like…excuse me…pigs. Some stats are saying that in just 50 years or so some europeans would find themselves the minorities in their own countries. What would be the future of the Vatican in a muslim Italy if that happens? Imagine the Pope becoming a dhimmi. Even I find that idea revolting. 🤷
As a matter of interest, at what point do you think that the Spanish-speaking United States of America will accede to the Republic of Mexico? Do you think that the US will join as one state of the Republic or as several?

Or will Mexico have to buy the place from China?
 
Nothing to worry about - Just Pray you die before it happens

The Vatican is a Sovereign Nation - I vote Crusades

Keeping Islam Pure in Europe What really worries Europeans is illustrated in this article with contributions from Paul Belien on the situation in Flanders, Edwin Jacobs on the Netherlands and Hjörtur Gudmundsson on Denmark. It is the explicit refusal of some who have settled in Europe to assimilate into European society. Yesterday, Gazet van Antwerpen, a local Antwerp newspaper, published the results of a poll among a representative group of 495 Muslim youths between 15 and 25 years of age, who live in the Flemish harbour town. 89% of these youths respond that religion occupies a “very important” place in their lives. 41% attend the mosque at least once a week (while 12% never does). 85% say they will raise their children in the Muslim faith. This in itself would not be a bad thing (on the contrary), except for the fact that 48% of Antwerp’s Muslim youths are convinced that the Quran should be taken literally and 21% readily admit that they have already heard their imam preach a hate sermon.

In addition, 21% of the young Antwerp Muslims say that they find it “problematic” that the majority of Antwerp’s citizens are non-Muslims, while less than half (47%) do not regard this as a problem. 22% of the Muslim girls prefer to marry a man who has lived in a Muslim country all his life.

While there are no young Muslims converting to Christianity, some 400 young Belgians (in both Dutch-speaking Flanders and French-speaking Wallonia) convert to Islam each year. Professor Johan Leman, an anthropologist at Leuven University and the former head of Belgium’s taxpayer-funded pro-immigration Centre for Equal Opportunities and the Fight against Racism, said in a recent (Dutch language) interview that “the most fanatic Muslims are the female converts.” brusselsjournal.com/node/551

GLOBAL INSECURITY 40% of young UK Muslims want sharia law Over a third say conversion from Islam should be ‘punished by death’ Forty percent of Muslims between aged 16 to 24 said they would prefer to live under sharia law in the UK, compared to only 17 percent of those over 55. Thirty-six percent of the younger group said a Muslim who converted to another religion should be “punished by death,” while only 19 percent of the older group agreed. Thirteen percent of young Muslims surveyed said they “admired” organizations such as al-Qaida and others who were prepared to “fight the West.” The newspaper says there was also strong support for wearing the veil in public, 74 percent of 16-to-24-year-olds compared with only 28 percent of over-55s, and Islamic schools, 19 percent of over-55s, increasing to 37 percent among 16-to-24-year-olds worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54018

girls of 11 and 16 kidnapped, converted to Islam and forced to marry Faisalabad (AsiaNews) – Two Christian girls, little more than children, were kidnapped from their families recently, forcibly converted to Islam and then married off to strangers. Both of the kidnaps took place in Faisalabad, the third largest city in Pakistan, and both were completely ignored by the police. The phenomenon is not a new one however, underlined numerous human rights activist, but it is dangerously on the increase. Khalil Tahir, chairman of a free legal aid organization “Adal Trust” and a well known Christian lawyer confirms this: “the growing number of attacks against Christians is worrying. We try to aid the victim’s families and at the same time help those who are subjected to this violence legally and practically, but the government must intervene with force if this is to be stopped”.
asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=10109&size=A
 
In fact, muslims seem to have a healthy attitude towards life and children. It’s hardly THEIR fault that Christendom has largely forgotten the virtue. They are moving into Europe not as some sort of invasion, but to fill the desperate shortage of workers that exists because of Euro birth dearth.

I’m no fan of Islam, I think it is basically a christian heresy manipulated to a long dead man’s massive benefit and ego. But that doesn’t make all its practitioners equally revolting, not does it mean that there are no vestiges of goodness left in it.

I still think the forced contact between Islam and the West is going to be a painful, but ultimately fruitful experience for both sides. The West will be challenged to re-examine what we believe and why. Islam will then be confronted with the fact of massive interaction between muslims and re-evangelized christians living in a society NOT controlled by dhimmi rules. This has never happened before and is, I believe, the reason Islam has been so impervious to evangelization: lack of everyday muslim direct experience with free, holy christians.
 
Pigs? Could you be more senselessly inflammatory?
As a filipino the only creature I know which multiplies rapidly are pigs. There are many babuyans (piggeries) in our place. 😉
They are moving into Europe not as some sort of invasion, but to fill the desperate shortage of workers that exists because of Euro birth dearth.
Nah, like every immigrant, they are just seeking a better life. And the west can offer what no muslim nation can.
 
Eventually the muslims who are moving to europe will see all the progress and way of life and say, “you know what, muslim nations all seem to be at the brink of war, violence everywhere, and poverty, and all these christian nations are doing really well and have a lot of human rights, etc. maybe it would be a good idea to become Christian because obviously they are doing much better than Muslims.”
 
^ phil, read the post of dosdog on the previous page.

muslims are very good at excuses. they look at the hellholes that are muslim nations and they put all the blame on the west for all sorts stupid excuses like:
  1. colonizing them in the past.
  2. supporting corrupted muslim leaders.
  3. the crusades.
What Christians (Catholics among them) need to do is set up a weekly fellowship that educates the flock on the wicked aspects of Islam. That will at least discourage your friends from blindly sympathizing with a dangerous religion.
 
Yes exactly. People are afraid to speak out against Muslims, because they think they might get killed (and a lot of people have). I can’t believe people would convert to Islam.
 
The more things change, the more they remain the same.

I wonder what the new word for ‘pogrom’ will be?
 
I can’t believe people would convert to Islam.
thats what I thought too, especially after 9/11. but things are happening to the contrary. islam makes an effective propaganda. the vatican has to take this threat seriously.

…because if europe falls, the rest of us will follow. millions of years of human evolution wasted on repressive theolocracies like that of Saudi Arabia. 😦
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top