The Vatican works with LDS Center to publish Assyrian ancient texts

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I love old things. And I love stories of obscure historical importance. And I also love stories of very different organizations coming together for common purpose. I thought folks here might enjoy this story about 1500 year old Syriac Christian documents, that have sat in Vatican archives for nearly 300 years, being digitally preserved by a bunch of Mormons.

Vatican lets BYU publish old texts
When their boat capsized in the Nile River, the Vatican monks feverishly dived for the priceless manuscripts they had just obtained from an Egyptian monastery.
One monk died in the accident, but the treasured writings of Ephrem the poet — copied by Assyrian monks in A.D. 522 and 523 — were saved and laid on the shore to dry in the early 18th century sun.
From there, the manuscripts traveled to the bowels of the Vatican Library and nearly 300 years of exile, out of reach of members of the Eastern Christian churches who revere Ephrem — until the Vatican agreed to let teams from Brigham Young University scan 14,000 pages of Syriac Christian writings and publish the color images next month on a DVD.
“That list of manuscripts, to any person who knows anything about early Syriac Christianity, immediately make that person like a child in a toy store,” Bishop Soro said.
It is also only the first phase of the project. The Vatican recently gave final approval to the DVD and raised the possibility of completing the project, which Reynolds assumes would mean the digitization of another 50 to 100 manuscripts.
 
I love old things. And I love stories of obscure historical importance. And I also love stories of very different organizations coming together for common purpose. I thought folks here might enjoy this story about 1500 year old Syriac Christian documents, that have sat in Vatican archives for nearly 300 years, being digitally preserved by a bunch of Mormons.

Vatican lets BYU publish old texts
Very cool. Just hope they don’t have the “enable editing” option. 😃
 
This article is from 2004 - do you have anything from Vatican News Agency to confirm this…?

Just curious - I search & couldn’t find anything regarding the Vatican & this project from 2004
 
This article is from 2004 - do you have anything from Vatican News Agency to confirm this…?

Just curious - I search & couldn’t find anything regarding the Vatican & this project from 2004
Heh - I’ve been reading stuff all afternoon, and then went and cut/pasted something from when the project started.

I don’t have anything from the Vatican. The Syriac church seems more excited, because these manuscripts are basically about them. Here’s a more recent article: CPART raises voices from the dust

And here’s the project page from BYU:
CPART - Vatican Manuscripts project

Here’s the free searchable Syriac Studies Reference Library at BYU (looks like a joint venture of BYU and the Catholic University of America).

Sorry - tons of links, but no nice summary. It’s so easy to do information overload when looking at scholarly endeavors.

Everyone have a good weekend.
 
I can find nothing either. Beginning to question the credibility of this article. Bishop Soro has been excommunicated from the Assyrian Church of the East and sounds like quite the nut case. That is about all I could find related to this article. Nothing from the Vatican News archives, so if it happened at all it wasn’t even newsworthy as far as the Catholic Church was concerned. 🤷
 
Heh - I’ve been reading stuff all afternoon, and then went and cut/pasted something from when the project started.

I don’t have anything from the Vatican. The Syriac church seems more excited, because these manuscripts are basically about them. Here’s a more recent article: CPART raises voices from the dust

And here’s the project page from BYU:
CPART - Vatican Manuscripts project

Here’s the free searchable Syriac Studies Reference Library at BYU (looks like a joint venture of BYU and the Catholic University of America).

Sorry - tons of links, but no nice summary. It’s so easy to do information overload when looking at scholarly endeavors.

Everyone have a good weekend.
Thanks ~

You too NT, have a great weekend!
 
I can find nothing either. Beginning to question the credibility of this article. Bishop Soro has been excommunicated from the Assyrian Church of the East and sounds like quite the nut case. That is about all I could find related to this article. Nothing from the Vatican News archives, so if it happened at all it wasn’t even newsworthy as far as the Catholic Church was concerned.
SteveVH,

His Excellency Bishop Mar Bawai Soro is currently a bishop of the Chaldean Catholic Church of the East. In 2008, Mar Bawai and 1,000 families along with him were received into full communion with the Catholic Church.

I’m not sure what it is that made you think that this holy bishop is “quite the nut case”, on the contrary, he is quite sane, quite scholarly, and quite the holy and faithful servant of the Church. 🙂

God bless,

Rony
 
This article is from 2004 - do you have anything from Vatican News Agency to confirm this…?

Just curious - I search & couldn’t find anything regarding the Vatican & this project from 2004
And it was April 1, 2004 😉
 
SteveVH,

His Excellency Bishop Mar Bawai Soro is currently a bishop of the Chaldean Catholic Church of the East. In 2008, Mar Bawai and 1,000 families along with him were received into full communion with the Catholic Church.

I’m not sure what it is that made you think that this holy bishop is “quite the nut case”, on the contrary, he is quite sane, quite scholarly, and quite the holy and faithful servant of the Church. 🙂

God bless,

Rony
From the “AssyriaTimes”

*"In today’s preliminary hearing of case # 1-05-CV-054786, the Santa Clara County Superior Court judge granted the plaintiff, the Holy Apostolic Assyrian Church of the East yet another victory over the defendant Bishop Bawai Soro, aka, Ashur B. Soro. The preliminary investigation proved the merits of this case by the strong evidence presented against Bishop Soro. Therefore, the court judge ordered the case to move to a jury trial.

On Monday, February 6, 2006, The Holy Apostolic Assyrian Church of the East will file a request for a date of the upcoming jury trial within the next few months.

Assyrian Church of the East Bishops, His Grace Mar Meelis Zaya, His Grace Mar Odisho Oraham, and His Grace Mar Emmanuel Yosip are very pleased with the outcome of the three days preliminary hearing, because so far the court has granted them 75% of their requests in the law suit.

The Assyrian Church of the East had offered Bishop Soro three options to end the chaos he has created in the Western Diocese, but Bishop Soro’s refusal resulted in his official expulsion from the Assyrian Church of the East. He warned the church authorities and parishioners from entering any of the three churches under his previous administration (Mar Yosip in San Jose, Mar Narsai in San Francisco, and Mar Givergis in Ceres). The renegade Bishop surrounds the three churches by bold street thugs dressed in black to intimidate the church parishioners. The Assyrian Church of the East has also filed a Temporary Restraining Order against Bishop Soro requesting the following:
1.Assyrian Church of the East authorities’ access to all the churches defrauded by Bishop Soro.
2.Bishop Soro’s suspension to enter any of the three churches mentioned above.
3.Bishop Soro to deliver all the church financial records to the plaintiff.

At the end of today’s preliminary hearing, the court judge ordered the followings pending a jury trial:
1.Bishop Soro to deliver all the financial records, e.g., credit accounts, checking and saving accounts, loans, and bank statements to the Assyrian Church of the East authorities, immediately.
2.The control and use of Mar Narsai Assyrian Church of the East in San Francisco is granted to the plaintiff, the Holy Apostolic Assyrian Church of the East.
3.The control and use of Mar Yosip Assyrian Church of the East in San Jose is assigned to the defendant Bishop Soro.
4.The control and use of Mar Givergis Assyrian Church of the East in Ceres will be divided by both parties on a time-shared-schedule.The Assyrian Church of the East authorities and members of the Holy Synod welcome the opportunity to use the next few months to investigate new discoveries and amend their complaint once they receive and inspect the financial records. Failure to deliver the court ordered financial records to the church authorities will place Bishop Soro in contempt of the court of law."*

That is what gave me the impression. I’ve never heard of the man until today so if this information isn’t accurate then I would say he has a good cause for a slander suit.
 
The Vatican been digitizing many of its rare holdings over the past decade, taking advantage of massive improvement in digital scanners (a similar effort was postponed in the 80’s due to the limits of technology).

BYU is actually a perfectly normal university in most regards. The Vatican probably invites experts from numerous universities around the world to help in its preservation and digitizing efforts. As a routine collaboration, it wouldn’t necessarily be announced in the Vatican newspaper.

There are no hints or winks to suggest its merely an April Fool’s Day joke. It gives a well rounded history, and provides several photos of the work.
 
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The Vatican been digitizing many of its rare holdings over the past decade, taking advantage of massive improvement in digital scanners (a similar effort was postponed in the 80’s due to the limits of technology).

BYU is actually a perfectly normal university in most regards. The Vatican probably invites experts from numerous universities around the world to help in its preservation and digitizing efforts. As a routine collaboration, it wouldn’t necessarily be announced in the Vatican newspaper.

There are no hints or winks to suggest its merely an April Fool’s Day joke. It gives a well rounded history, and provides several photos of the work.
Your explanation sounds reasonable. 👍
 
SteveVH,

His Excellency Bishop Mar Bawai Soro is currently a bishop of the Chaldean Catholic Church of the East. In 2008, Mar Bawai and 1,000 families along with him were received into full communion with the Catholic Church.

I’m not sure what it is that made you think that this holy bishop is “quite the nut case”, on the contrary, he is quite sane, quite scholarly, and quite the holy and faithful servant of the Church. 🙂

God bless,

Rony
👍
 
That is what gave me the impression. I’ve never heard of the man until today so if this information isn’t accurate then I would say he has a good cause for a slander suit.
SteveVH,

AssyiaTimes, from which you quoted, is aligned with the Assyrian Church of the East. Their news is colored by the positions of their Church, and so they are merely presenting their side of the story. Bishop Mar Bawai has been vilified by the ACE community ever since his excommunication from their Church.

A few years ago, we had a long thread on the Assyrians who have elected to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=214992

If you like, you can look up post #54 by sydneydude for some specific information, and also the posts of antgaria, starting with post #59, who is quite knowledgeable on the whole thing.

God bless,

Rony
 
The Vatican been digitizing many of its rare holdings over the past decade, taking advantage of massive improvement in digital scanners (a similar effort was postponed in the 80’s due to the limits of technology).
BYU is actually a perfectly normal university in most regards. The Vatican probably invites experts from numerous universities around the world to help in its preservation and digitizing efforts. As a routine collaboration, it wouldn’t necessarily be announced in the Vatican newspaper.
There are no hints or winks to suggest its merely an April Fool’s Day joke. It gives a well rounded history, and provides several photos of the work.
Yes, the Vatican Library does actually have a brief bit of information on this project:

vatlib.it/home.php?pag=detteditoria&idogg=CVM_11

The Vatican Library then links to the BYU site in the notes (cpart.byu.edu).

God bless,

Rony
 
SteveVH,

AssyiaTimes, from which you quoted, is aligned with the Assyrian Church of the East. Their news is colored by the positions of their Church, and so they are merely presenting their side of the story. Bishop Mar Bawai has been vilified by the ACE community ever since his excommunication from their Church.

A few years ago, we had a long thread on the Assyrians who have elected to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=214992

If you like, you can look up post #54 by sydneydude for some specific information, and also the posts of antgaria, starting with post #59, who is quite knowledgeable on the whole thing.

God bless,

Rony
I stand corrected. Apologies to anyone offended.
 
Your explanation sounds reasonable. 👍
And you have to admire Desert News use of loaded language in the article:
From there, the manuscripts traveled to the bowels of the Vatican Library and nearly 300 years of exile, out of reach of members of the Eastern Christian churches who revere Ephrem
It is in keeping with the meme that the big bad Vatican hides everything it can and denies academics access to priceless bits of history.
 
And you have to admire Desert News use of loaded language in the article:

It is in keeping with the meme that the big bad Vatican hides everything it can and denies academics access to priceless bits of history.
Angels & Demons anyone?
 
And you have to admire Desert News use of loaded language in the article:

It is in keeping with the meme that the big bad Vatican hides everything it can and denies academics access to priceless bits of history.
I loved the part also that described these writings as so important because it would give us a glimpse of Christianity without the influence of Geek philosophy. I would love to hear their conclusions as to what these unaffected Christians believed and how much it supports the Mormon position. 😉
 
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