I’d believe your “wrong” there if you represented the Catholic position. Since you do not speak on behalf of the Church, you cannot say it is wrong, but only your opinion that you do not agree. I gave you Bible verses to back this up. The Church teaches it. Did you miss the Bible verses and CCC paragraph 717?
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P23.HTM "CCC 717 "There was a man sent from God, whose name was John."89 John was “filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb"90 by Christ himself, whom the Virgin Mary had just conceived by the Holy Spirit. Mary’s visitation to Elizabeth thus became a visit from God to his people.91”
Many people of both the Old and New Testament Times were “fulled with the Holy Spirit”, even Bezalel: Exodus 31:2-4:"2 “See, I have chosen Bezalel son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah, 3 and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with skill, ability and knowledge in all kinds of crafts- 4 to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver and bronze,”
How is it that
you are misinterpreting the CCC to mean that somehow St. John was born without the affects of Original Sin - again, not even Christ Himself was born without the affects of Original Sin - otherwise Christ would have been able to be killed on the Cross. St. John, according to Sacred Scripture DIED - he was beheaded - or have you missed: Matt 14:10 “and had John beheaded in the prison.”; Mark 6:14 "King Herod heard about this, for Jesus’ name had become well known. Some were saying,[a] “John the Baptist has been raised from the dead, and that is why miraculous powers are at work in him.”; Mark 6:16 “But when Herod heard this, he said, “John, the man I beheaded, has been raised from the dead!”; Mark 6:27 " So he immediately sent an executioner with orders to bring John’s head. The man went, beheaded John in the prison,” and Luke 9:9 “But Herod said, “I beheaded John. Who, then, is this I hear such things about?” And he tried to see him.”
I gave multiple references, you decided to quote that one and ignore the Bible and the traditions. You are the one who gave that reference which proved yourself wrong. I simply pointed it out. You actually appear to be the one who is ignoring Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. St. Marina, when I come back in two weeks with the reason the priest gave, will you believe it then? If he can provide you with an actual Catholic Church document which specifically teaches that St. John was born without Original Sin, I’d love to see it. Yet, even if the Catholic Church had ever produced such a document, it is proven wrong by Sacred Scripture, since Sacred Scripture specifically states that St. John was Beheaded - which caused his death…death which is the consequence of Original Sin…if he were really born without OS then he would not have died.
Due to Adam and Eve’s Original Sin, God gave several curses - to all of creation - which can be found by reading: Genesis 3:14-39, specifically applicable here is part of that curse which is in verse 19: “until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
As this Scripture clearly shows, Physical Death is one of the curses for Original Sin which all of humanity including: Adam, Eve, Christ, the Theotokos, St. John the Baptist, and everyone else born inbetween and after. Christ and the Theotokos are the two who have been risen from the Dead bodily, never to die again - some people have been raised from the Dead bodily by miracle from Jesus, the Apostles and various Saints through out the centuries; however, they have each at some point died later save Christ and the Theotokos.
I don’t care what you think, but, I don’t want any Catholic to think that the Church doesn’t teach this. But you’ve not been able to demonstrate that the Catholic Church does actually teach this doctrine. I’d be concerned about misleading Catholics if I were in your shoes since you are claiming something for which you have no evidence.
Again, I asked about how the Orthodox view this, in relation to how the Catholics believe. You must have missed that part of my post then. Go back and re-read it.
