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theMadJW
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God (or ONE of Them) became a man.
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theMadJW
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“Christ Jesus, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him…”- from Phil 2
God cannot die.
Immortal souls cannot die.
Jesus did- not just the body; he said he was laying down his LIFE.
GOD exalted him; he did not exult ‘Himself’.
God cannot die.
Immortal souls cannot die.
Jesus did- not just the body; he said he was laying down his LIFE.
GOD exalted him; he did not exult ‘Himself’.
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theMadJW
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God becoming a man isn’t specific enough?
Please enlighten me!
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Thom18
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Um, since we don’t teach “soul death”, your point is null. Jesus’ soul didn’t die when His physical body did.
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theMadJW
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Sure DO~
Gen 2:7- Jehovah God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living SOUL. (nephesh)
Animals are ALSO referred to as “souls” in Genesis, and elsewhere.
“Immortal” was never used.
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theMadJW
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Yes, you use the church version, I the biblical.
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Thom18
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If your position was “Biblical” (as in, the Bible and the authors taught it), then it wouldn’t have taken 1800 years for your church to pop up, then would it?
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theMadJW
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Look, I quoted Genesis that CLEARLY shows Adam BECAME a soul- a later he DIED>
He was NOT immortal, nor was an ‘immortal soul’ put INTO him.
And look up “soul” in Bible concordances- and see how animals, too, ARE souls.
If you choose church dogma over scripture- that is YOUR call!
He was NOT immortal, nor was an ‘immortal soul’ put INTO him.
And look up “soul” in Bible concordances- and see how animals, too, ARE souls.
If you choose church dogma over scripture- that is YOUR call!
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Thom18
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I wasn’t speaking of souls. I was challenging your claim to being “Biblical”, but since we both clearly can’t agree on the basic doctrines of Christianity, I don’t see your post helping to clear things up at all. If we can’t agree on the big things (Christ’s divinity), then we’ll make even less headway on the “smaller things”, such as this.I don’t really concern myself that much with an individual’s interpretation of Scripture. Unless we can come to an understanding of which church is the true Church, we can’t come to figure that out.
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adf417
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Wait, we also have to make the call: believe which interpretation of God’s Word. You have proven you read the bible but you have not shown why your interpretation is the correct one above all the differing interpretations out there and HOW DO YOU KNOW its correct. Could you share this piece of the puzzle with us?
Peace!!!
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pnewton
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Maybe you need to learn a little Greek. Anyone who has studied much know that prepositions, as in most languages, are slippery and the words most prone to colloquial usage.
In any case, you do not even understand what Christians believe about the trinity. You are arguing a straw man that any Christian can recognize, except the most shallow.
There is no difference.
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theMadJW
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No REAL Christian will EVER believe in the Triune Polytheism.
The Bible doesn’t refer to, nor imply any Trinity, a Triune Godhead, the Triunity, Co-Equal God Beings, Godhead, a Hypostaic Union, Divine essences, Divine Natures, a God-the-Son, a God-the-GHOST, Hypostasis, Homoousios, Perichoresis , a Godman, Omnipresence, Incarnation, a God who is a
Sacred Mystery, a God ‘in three persons’, Dual natures, a reincarnate God, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, Godness, a Tri-Unity or a multipersonal God
Jehovah said He is One.
Jesus said He is the ONLY true God.
Jesus serves and worships Him, and is subject to Him.
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theMadJW
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Adam BECAME a soul.
Use any definition you wish- there was nothing “immortal”.
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adf417
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@theMadJWtheMadJW:
Wait, we also have to make the call: believe which interpretation of God’s Word. You have proven you read the bible but you have not shown why your interpretation is the correct one above all the differing interpretations out there and HOW DO YOU KNOW its correct. Could you share this piece of the puzzle with us?
Peace!!!
Could i get an answer to this please?
Peace!!!
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pnewton
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You are not only ignorant of Greek, but of history. You, like your cult, have redefined Christianity, creating God in an image of your own making. Considering that your lack of respect for Christianity, and recruitment here is a violation of the rules of this forum, why would I think you know enough about Greek, English, logic, or even morals, to believe you?
You cannot even get the purpose of this website right.
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adf417
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@theMadJW
To take yet another approach…
What could possibily be wrong with worshiping Jesus which would make him an idol, correct?
Ez 30:13 NWT states
Peace!!!
To take yet another approach…
What could possibily be wrong with worshiping Jesus which would make him an idol, correct?
Ez 30:13 NWT states
Would God destroy His only begoton Son? We do actually worship Jesus so how does this play out in the JW world?
Peace!!!
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