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Wesley7
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Can anyone explain Thiestic Evolution and what it means in its scientific context?
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GeorgeSword
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Theistic Evolutionists (such as myself) have varied beliefs, but basically it means that (most of the time) we believe that we evolved over time, but also that we believe that evolution and the universe were triggered by a divine being - God.
Some choose to believe that God just put down the first beings and allowed them to evolve on their own, through natural selection. I believe that God closely watched the process, with the ultimate intention, even from the beginning, to create mankind.
The first humans of course, were the first beings to have souls and the first beings to sin - we know them as Adam and Eve.
Some choose to believe that God just put down the first beings and allowed them to evolve on their own, through natural selection. I believe that God closely watched the process, with the ultimate intention, even from the beginning, to create mankind.
The first humans of course, were the first beings to have souls and the first beings to sin - we know them as Adam and Eve.
Evolution says that random mutation is the driver of changes in organisms, and that these changes may be favorable and be passed on, or may not be favorable, and die off.
Theistic evolution puts God in the drivers seat instead of ‘random mutation.’
It places the entirety of evolution in the framework of explaining how God created everything.
Theistic evolution puts God in the drivers seat instead of ‘random mutation.’
It places the entirety of evolution in the framework of explaining how God created everything.
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Wesley7
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Do you know anyone who can give a better explanation of Theistic Evolution?
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MindOverMatter
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Very funny.Do you know anyone who can give a better explanation of Theistic Evolution?
Okay. A Theistic evolutionist is somebody that agrees with evolution as described by science, and believes in God.
Real Theistic-Evolution is no different from the scientific formulation.
The only real difference is that Theists belief that all natural events exist for a divine purpose which was put into motion by the “ultimate reality” (God).
I believe this to be the true definition of a Theistic Evolution. Read Kenneth R. Miller
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Wesley7
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Do you know the dude that goes by the name Aron-Ra? He talks alot about evolution and Darwinist theory.
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MindOverMatter
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No. But i just Googled him, and he appears to be a rocker, perhaps he is into heavy metal too, whom defends evolution against creationism.Do you know the dude that goes by the name Aron-Ra? He talks alot about evolution and Darwinist theory.
You got a problem with him?
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Wesley7
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No, I figured if he was knowledgeable about Evolution and Darwinist theory he was the person you wanted talk to.
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MindOverMatter
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I don’t know AronRa’s profession, but personally i would go to a professional scientist if i wanted to know about evolution.No, I figured if he was knowledgeable about Evolution and Darwinist theory he was the person you wanted talk to.
In any case, why do you think that i would want to talk to Aron Ra?
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Wesley7
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No, I didn’t know, No I didn’t know he was that person you wanted to talk to.I don’t know AronRa’s profession, but personally i would go to a professional scientist if i wanted to know about evolution.
In any case, why do you think that i would want to talk to Aron Ra?
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MindOverMatter
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Unless you want me to come through you’re computer screen and say the “our father” very loudly, i suggest you tell me what your game is!!!No, I didn’t know, No I didn’t know he was that person you wanted to talk to.
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Wesley7
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All the classic board games.Unless you want me to come through you’re computer screen and say the “our father” very loudly, i suggest you tell me what your game is!!!
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Wesley7
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Theistic Evolution must be that which combines the study of the history and development of man - in accord with the monotheistic idea that God is the Creator.
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MindOverMatter
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What was the point of this thread?Theistic Evolution must be that which combines the study of the history and development of man - in accord with the monotheistic idea that God is the Creator.
Is it okay if i come through your computer screen so that i can talk to you face to face?
How big is it? I’m quite a large person.
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Wesley7
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No you don’t talk to me face to face ~ you talk to that square in the door.What was the point of this thread?
Is it okay if i come through your computer screen so that i can talk to you face to face?
How big is it? I’m quite a large person.
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Wesley7
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Go talk to an ordained Catholic priest.What was the point of this thread?
Is it okay if i come through your computer screen so that i can talk to you face to face?
How big is it? I’m quite a large person.
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Detales
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It seems to me that most often the evolution debate is couched in theist/atheist terms, with some variations, particularly as seen in the creation/ID/creationist controversy. All of those, and GSword’s as well,* on the theistic side are all dualistic in nature. My contention is that such a dualism is impossible in actuallity and that if there is such a thing as “theistic evolution” it is on rather different grounds than so far mentioned.
To be brief, I will say that a more workable and true-to-Fact understanding of Theistic evolution could be that what we take as objective Creation is in fact the AM of God infinitly exploring all possibility at every level of experience. These possibilities become deeper over the expereintial axis of the time dimention(s) as each level of manifestation enfolds the prefious and transcends it. Quarks in atoms in molecules in cells in etc on into the angelic realm, and vica-versa, Thereby God is Present no in all, but as All, and is not seperate from Creation in the traditional public Abrahamic sense, but IS creation in a Self manifestation sense. That would solve many quesitons relative to soul, salvation, the Sons of God, the theist/atheist debate both sides of which are inadequate and impossible, etc, etc. thus living is a pressure of Life (God) manifesting and is always already Present everywhere. That dynamic might be most readily seen in, say, the search for beings on other planets. Life, as Life, (is/isn’t) already there, the question is, what forms might we find.
To be brief, I will say that a more workable and true-to-Fact understanding of Theistic evolution could be that what we take as objective Creation is in fact the AM of God infinitly exploring all possibility at every level of experience. These possibilities become deeper over the expereintial axis of the time dimention(s) as each level of manifestation enfolds the prefious and transcends it. Quarks in atoms in molecules in cells in etc on into the angelic realm, and vica-versa, Thereby God is Present no in all, but as All, and is not seperate from Creation in the traditional public Abrahamic sense, but IS creation in a Self manifestation sense. That would solve many quesitons relative to soul, salvation, the Sons of God, the theist/atheist debate both sides of which are inadequate and impossible, etc, etc. thus living is a pressure of Life (God) manifesting and is always already Present everywhere. That dynamic might be most readily seen in, say, the search for beings on other planets. Life, as Life, (is/isn’t) already there, the question is, what forms might we find.
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