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Sharyn_Fleming
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Can you tell me if belief in Thelema is an occult practice?
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ChadS
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Hi Sharyn,
I believe that Thelema is an occultic practice. It’s most famous practitioner was Alleister Crowley, who was and Englishman that lived in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, he styled himself as “the evilest man alive” and his nickname was “the beast.” He pursued enlightenment through occultic practices such as transcendental meditation, contacting spirits, and out of body experiences. He was influenced by some eastern philosophies and some ancient Egyptian mythology. His Thelema teachings were also mixed with heavy drug use and experimentations in “free love.”
To Thelema practitioners their whole creed can be summed up as: “Do what thou shalt will as long as it harms no other living thing, shall be the whole of the law.” This was later picked up by Anton LaVey and his satanic group he formed.
This is a pretty broad outline but I think I got it correct. Maybe others can add more detail and I know the internet has information about Thelema from groups that claim to follow it and a lot of Crowley’s writings are online, but be warned they are obtuse, boring and incredibly hard to follow full of esoteric mumbo-jumbo that makes little to no sense.
ChadS
I believe that Thelema is an occultic practice. It’s most famous practitioner was Alleister Crowley, who was and Englishman that lived in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, he styled himself as “the evilest man alive” and his nickname was “the beast.” He pursued enlightenment through occultic practices such as transcendental meditation, contacting spirits, and out of body experiences. He was influenced by some eastern philosophies and some ancient Egyptian mythology. His Thelema teachings were also mixed with heavy drug use and experimentations in “free love.”
To Thelema practitioners their whole creed can be summed up as: “Do what thou shalt will as long as it harms no other living thing, shall be the whole of the law.” This was later picked up by Anton LaVey and his satanic group he formed.
This is a pretty broad outline but I think I got it correct. Maybe others can add more detail and I know the internet has information about Thelema from groups that claim to follow it and a lot of Crowley’s writings are online, but be warned they are obtuse, boring and incredibly hard to follow full of esoteric mumbo-jumbo that makes little to no sense.
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Sharyn_Fleming
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Hi ChadS,
Thank you for your answer. Do you believe that if someone was reading the book and experimenting with Thelema practices, that they would have an unusual interest in music and or movies that contained evil lyrics or stories? Also, do you believe that you can be open to demonic attacks that present themselves as serious mental illness - hearing voices, etc.?
Thank you,
Sharyn
Thank you for your answer. Do you believe that if someone was reading the book and experimenting with Thelema practices, that they would have an unusual interest in music and or movies that contained evil lyrics or stories? Also, do you believe that you can be open to demonic attacks that present themselves as serious mental illness - hearing voices, etc.?
Thank you,
Sharyn
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ChadS
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Hi Sharyn,
If somebody is into thelema and it’s associated occultic practices that person could possibly be drawn to darker lyrics and stories. That could be for several reasons such as the people they hang out with are into that type of stuff or they find that type of imagery fascinating. I don’t want to paint with too broad of a brush and insinuate that one necessarily leads to the other, but it is a possibility.
If the person is actually taking to heart thelemaic practices and habits that can unwittingly open a door to demonic influences. Does that always happen? I doubt it but it may be a possibility. From what I understand demonic influence can seem like a mental disorder. If somebody you know is having psychological problems they should seek professional treatment right away. The vast majority of psychological disorders have natural and understandable causes that can be treated by qualified doctors. Mental disorders should be treated exactly as that until it becomes clear that the problem is not natural in its origins.
I hope this helped a little.
ChadS
If somebody is into thelema and it’s associated occultic practices that person could possibly be drawn to darker lyrics and stories. That could be for several reasons such as the people they hang out with are into that type of stuff or they find that type of imagery fascinating. I don’t want to paint with too broad of a brush and insinuate that one necessarily leads to the other, but it is a possibility.
If the person is actually taking to heart thelemaic practices and habits that can unwittingly open a door to demonic influences. Does that always happen? I doubt it but it may be a possibility. From what I understand demonic influence can seem like a mental disorder. If somebody you know is having psychological problems they should seek professional treatment right away. The vast majority of psychological disorders have natural and understandable causes that can be treated by qualified doctors. Mental disorders should be treated exactly as that until it becomes clear that the problem is not natural in its origins.
I hope this helped a little.
ChadS
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Sharyn_Fleming
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Dear ChadS,
Thanks again for your answer. The person I am talking about has been and still is in therapy and on medication for anxiety and depression but he said something happened to him 2 years ago and doesn’t know what. He has read the book by Alestar Crowley and I don’t know how far he has gone with it and believes that it is innocent. He is highly intelligent, a cradle Catholic and the change in him is disturbing. He was away at college (grad shcool/phd program economics) and home for the first time in 10 years with me so I am seeing first hand a different person.
Thanks again. Your answers are helpful.
Sharyn:
Thanks again for your answer. The person I am talking about has been and still is in therapy and on medication for anxiety and depression but he said something happened to him 2 years ago and doesn’t know what. He has read the book by Alestar Crowley and I don’t know how far he has gone with it and believes that it is innocent. He is highly intelligent, a cradle Catholic and the change in him is disturbing. He was away at college (grad shcool/phd program economics) and home for the first time in 10 years with me so I am seeing first hand a different person.
Thanks again. Your answers are helpful.
Sharyn:
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Greg72
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Close.Hi Sharyn,To Thelema practitioners their whole creed can be summed up as: “Do what thou shalt will as long as it harms no other living thing, shall be the whole of the law.”
It’s just “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”
If other living things get harmed, then that’s not your concern - it simply means that they weren’t following their true will.
Sharyn, I don’t know what book your friend read (Crowley wrote dozens) or how he used it, but it couldn’t have done him any good. The philosophy, the rituals, etc… he should let go of it all.
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Valhalla50
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Look into the Rite of Renunciation at your local Catholic Church. Sorry if this is a bit late since the thread started in 2007 but better late than never, right? Anyway, it’s part of the process that Masons or their families undergo in order to remove the evil influences. Hope this helps.
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