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The First world.In actuality, for Europe at present and perhaps soon for America, the problem is underpopulation.
What about the Third World? That’s more what I had in mind.
The First world.In actuality, for Europe at present and perhaps soon for America, the problem is underpopulation.
It is important to accept Church authority, but this issue does not need to be followed blindly. It is very worth noting that there is no Biblical basis for arguing that ABC is good, or that God does not have certain designs for our sexual behavior and relationships. Everywhere where the Bible mentions something that can be understood as a type of artificial birth control, it is condemned. So, even if you are not convinced that the Bible explicity teaches against ABC, you should certainly be able to see that it does not contradict what the Church teaches – that using ABC is immoral.Based on what I’ve read here, then, I would have to agree with AlanFromWichita – it’s a question of accepting the Church’s authority, for it doesn’t seem to be Biblically or logically provable.
Others have commented already on the population control argument, but that is really a side issue. What matters is the morality of the act itself. If using ABC were immoral, it could not be considered a viable tool for population control, just as mass murder cannot. The same holds true for abortion, if population concerns was your litmus test for the morality of an action. Mass murder actually has more potential for successful population control, yet it is clearly immoral and thus not an option. Christians in general never taught that ABC use was immoral because there weren’t enough people on the planet, so population control really isn’t a viable argument towards the morality of ABC use.There’s a lot of truth to that in the twenty-first century, but the original prohibition on birth control is easily understood in an ancient context.
(…much about ABC for population control…)
I’m very sorry you feel that way about the Church’s teaching. It is not about saving face. The Church very clearly believes that certain Truths were revealed to man by God, and so NO MAN, not even the Pope himself, has the power to change them. The Church doesn’t make the rules (not ones like this, at least), it only transmits them from God to the faithful.So how are we to understand the Church’s position now? Simple — a question of face. Admitting it’s wrong this late in the game would result in a major loss of face. And so proof-texts about spelling one’s seed are trotted out against the hard evidence of demographics, and for the faithful, faith once again conquers scientific knowledge.
What is a reasonable position, in your opinion? “Be open to life when it suits you”? Can you prove your position from the Bible, or logically?What the church needs is a reasonable position on “artificial” birth control. It’s fine and well to say that a relationship should be open to the potential of a new life, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that ever sex act as to be open to said possibility.
The Church definitely holds adoption in high regard. Also realize that the truly unwanted children arise out of mankind’s sinful disposition towards sexuality. The idea that “I have the right to have sex and not have children” inevitably leads to unwanted children when methods of birth control fail. I believe that only 0.0000000001% of “unwanted” children given up for adoption or truly unloved come from couples who truly follow the Church’s teaching on sexual morality. For all others, while the Church has the utmost compassion for those children, the Church certainly can’t be held responsible for the sad effects of the sinful sexual immorality She is trying to fight.If it’s a question of the life-giving potential of sex, why is nothing said about all the potentialities which have become actualities, namely unwanted children? Why not encourage adopting children as an option? It seems awfully one-sided for the Church to be lambasting women who chose to have an abortion out of one side of its mouth and not even given lip service to the needs of already-born, clearly-unwanted children.
I have to admit that the Church has done a poor job in chatechesis, and that inevitably leads to mass confusion and dissent. It does not, however, mean that the real doctrine is false. We must work harder are reforming what we can so that all know the Truth and can live in God’s grace and peace.As far as the argument I heard that it’s a questioning of God’s will in your life, that was indeed how I heard it explained here in Poland in the pre-wedding family planning session. It’s how it’s been explained to other Poles, from what I’ve heard from couples who’ve been through the same session. So apparently, the Polish Catholic Church is, at least somewhat restrictedly, teaching this non-Catholic doctrine as a justification of birth control.
I think that problems in the Third World have less to do with overpopulation than with political corruption and maldistribution of resources. In the end, it may be the current third world countries that bail out the depopulation problems of the first world countries.The First world.
What about the Third World? That’s more what I had in mind.