Theology in Christianity and Islam

[zerinus]

Let us discuss your blog, here:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=193513

OK, I have just replied to your post.

zerinus

 

[Valke2]

**Well these are what he calls himself, just attributes or names and almost 99 of them but none them is God Almighty himself. So you see we Muslims don’t make the descriptions God accept what he calls himself and instructed all believers to call him his names or attributes.

Moreover, most widely pronounced attributes of Allah in the Quran are Most compassionate and Most Merciful. these start with every Chapter of the Quran and every regular contact prayers (5 times a day of multiple repetitions).

it’s that simple. **

Personally, I think the more names you have for God the better. It is a reminder that God is much more than one can define with a name. I think this may be one of the reasons that muslims sometimes meditate on the 99 names of God.

 

[De_Maria]

**Well these are what he calls himself, just attributes or names and almost 99 of them but none them is God Almighty himself. **

**

That doesn’t make sense. You mean Allah is not the All-Seer? Then who is the All-Seer? Mohammed?

So you see we Muslims don’t make the descriptions God accept what he calls himself and instructed all believers to call him his names or attributes.

Why would God instruct believers to call HIm by a name that is not His?

Moreover, most widely pronounced attributes of Allah in the Quran are Most compassionate and Most Merciful. these start with every Chapter of the Quran and every regular contact prayers (5 times a day of multiple repetitions).

So Allah is the Most Compassionate and the Most Compassionate is Allah. Is that what you mean? Sounds like you give Allah the names of His attributes.

it’s that simple.

**Yeah, it is. I’m glad to have helped you figger it out.

Now we can consider mystery again. Do you know how “compassionate” Allah is? Can you imagine it? Or do you really believe you know everything there is to know about God.

God is one. That is the Catholic Teaching. God is also Triune. Three Divine Persons in one God. That is Catholic Teaching.

I believe it because nature itself reflects the trinity of creation.

Space is trinitarian. It is three dimensional, height, depth and length and yet seamlessly, one.

Time is trinitarian. There is past, present and future. But seamlessly, they are one. Present passes to the past without a break in continuity, present passes to the future without break in continuity. Time is trinitarian, yet time is one.

Creation images the Creator.

A one dimensional universe would represent a one dimensional God. But in a trinitarian, three dimensional world, the one dimensional God exists only in the imagination.

And I believe that God is Trinity because the Catholic Church teaches this and the Catholic Church is the fullness of Truth. All we have to do is compare the volumes of evidence She has for the existence of Jesus Christ. That Christ existed, Christ healed the sick, Christ raised the dead, Christ Himself conquered death. That His followers did the same.

And finally, I don’t believe the Quran because Mohammed could not even prove he saw an angel, Muslims themselves burned the original Quran therefore therefore can’t even prove that Mohammed claimed that he saw an angel. can’t prove that it is Mohammed’s Quran, Mohammed couldn’t even produce miracles to prove he was a prophet.

In the end, there is such a lack of evidence for the Quran that Mohammed would be thrown out of any court in the world.

Sincerely,

De Maria

 

[inJESUS]

De Maria,

if i recall well, AbeOman does believe that the attributes and nature of God are equal in the sense that they belong only to God. God is all-hearer, nobosy else is all-hearer, hence the attribute is God’s nature.

 

[De_Maria]

De Maria,

if i recall well, AbeOman does believe that the attributes and nature of God are equal in the sense that they belong only to God. God is all-hearer, nobosy else is all-hearer, hence the attribute is God’s nature.

The way he said it kind of confusing:

                 Originally Posted by **AbeOman**                     [forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cad/viewpost.gif](http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=2886434#post2886434)                 
             **Well these are what he calls himself, just attributes or names and almost 99 of them but none them is God Almighty himself. **

I still don’t understand that statement.

Sincerely,

De Maria

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

**…I pray to the almighty that anyone who insults anyone these chosen men of God rots in hell and lives life-after a lives in wretched life on this earth.

Sorry praying to god for such a cruel prayer but this really upsets me so much…and there is nothing in my power accepts prayers. **

I’m glad you are sorry, because that has got to be one of the most ugliest prayers I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading.

We are all brothers and sisters in this God created human race. You should never wish hatred upon anybody. Ever.

 

[De_Maria]

Sorry for derailing this thread earlier everyone…

It is very nice of you to apologize, but you didn’t derail the thread. Zerinus did in order to give attention to his blog.

I got a bit heated, i apologize

What is a little passion between friends?

At least we can’t accuse you of being lukewarm, can we?

                                            [Revelation 3:16](http://www.whereinthebible.org/index.php?bookId=73&chapterId=3&verseId=16&page=1#x)
                                             But because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold, not hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth.

Nope, I don’t want to be considered lukewarm either.

Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

De Maria

 

[dolphinlove]

Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Oh, your the one that DOES keep up the good work!
God Bless you!
And thank you

 

[swariffin]

**

God is one. That is the Catholic Teaching. God is also Triune. Three Divine Persons in one God. That is Catholic Teaching.

Sincerely,

De Maria**

Dear De Maria,

Somehow I feel quite uneasy when we use the term “Person(s)” when we talk about the Trinity. Your term Triune is better, I think. The term “Person” actually comes from the term “Persona” which is somehow translated into “Person”. Persona literally means “mask” which carry the meaning of how human perceive God, as He dwell among us. God the Father by His own nature cannot be out of his holiness condition. So, in order to dwell and being close to human (the sinners), He sent his word and his word became human, and we perceive such human as Jesus. So, Jesus can also be interpreted as “the mask of God” as God presents among us. In Greek, the single most correct word is “hypostasis” which means the presence of God as perceived by human senses. I got this from a theologist Karl Rahner.

 

[inJESUS]

The way he said it kind of confusing:

I still don’t understand that statement.

Sincerely,

De Maria

• I believe attributes **are part of nature and the two words are the same **so one is derived from the other. hence I know what are God’s attributes, for example we have about 99 of them such as mercyful…
  3- Finally, I can not imagine what God looks like, his shape or size, place, etc as muslim if I do that then I become an idolater…!

In other words, he is saying that attributes and nature are the same.