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Jeanette L:
Unless the store says “Spirits”, he’ll claim he was soul searching…
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jim1130
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Peace.
What is the likelihood that the evangelical fundamentalist was actually in the liquor store witnessing to save souls?
Peace.
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Jeanette_L
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Actually, a pretty good likelihood. They have been known to go around to bars and the like to spread the gospel, and I have to give props to them for doing so. The one thing they do have is zeal and a willingness to evangelize anywhere they go.
But, I have known quite a few (myself included) who would sneak away to a distant neighborhood where they’re less likely to be noticed to buy some brewskies! It happens more than most would want to admit. And it’s only the legalism imposed on them from the pulpit that makes sneaking around to buy a beer or a bottle of wine necessary. Like I said, they certainly wouldn’t feel shame coming out of the bakery next door with a dozen eclairs!
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St.Eric
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That’s one of the best clean jokes I have heard in a long time.
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santaro75
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Jeanette L:
That sucks man. then you feel guilty the next time you go to church and profess those things.
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BryPGuy89
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Rebecca New:
Somewhere in the OT, can’t remember where, but positive it exists. I’ve read it and it was brought up in my parents church. Maybe one of our protestant friends can recall where they have read that.
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St.Eric
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If it is:
“Thou shall not burn a camel as an offering…”
Well, I think that has been taken outta context!
“Thou shall not burn a camel as an offering…”
Well, I think that has been taken outta context!
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BryPGuy89
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Nein, it said of herb with addictive properties! Funny if it was about camels though.If it is:
“Thou shall not burn a camel as an offering…”
Well, I think that has been taken outta context!
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jim1130
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Jeanette L:
That’s funny.
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Peace.
That’s funny.
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Kevan
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Okay, things are getting cloudy in this room. Let’s clear the air a little.
St. Eric, no I was not serious.
For others, if you are serious, you can go to an online concordance and search for the terms you’re interested in finding in the Bible. There is no verse about smoking harmful or addictive substances.
The ethics about smoking and health are easy enough to see and weigh, and I think responsible adults should make up their own minds.
The question of your reputation is, likewise, up to you. But sometimes we cannot control what others think about our choices, and we then have to decide whether to subjugate those choices in order to increase our influence for good. That’s New Testament ethics (1 Corinthians 8), even though it goes against my grain as much as it does yours.
St. Eric, no I was not serious.
For others, if you are serious, you can go to an online concordance and search for the terms you’re interested in finding in the Bible. There is no verse about smoking harmful or addictive substances.
The ethics about smoking and health are easy enough to see and weigh, and I think responsible adults should make up their own minds.
The question of your reputation is, likewise, up to you. But sometimes we cannot control what others think about our choices, and we then have to decide whether to subjugate those choices in order to increase our influence for good. That’s New Testament ethics (1 Corinthians 8), even though it goes against my grain as much as it does yours.
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BryPGuy89
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The NT is covered with anti-smoking verses though, that I could easily find on the internet. Not word for word, but basically there. I still recall reading something about addictive herb or plant or something in the OT, I could have sworn it was something that I made a big deal about in my head about.
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St.Eric
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Kevan,
Thank you for your honest answer. I appreciate it. I couldn’t tell if yiou were serious or not. Now I see. Thanks. I appreciate a good sense of humor very much.
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St.Eric
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G.K. Chesterton:
“Idolatry is committed, not merely by setting up false gods, but also by setting up false devils; by making men afraid of war or alcohol, or economic law, when they should be afraid of spiritual corruption and cowardice.”
“Idolatry is committed, not merely by setting up false gods, but also by setting up false devils; by making men afraid of war or alcohol, or economic law, when they should be afraid of spiritual corruption and cowardice.”
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Scott_Waddell
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As an occasional pipe smoker, I have gone many rounds with people on the licitness/morality of smoking and none of them ever given me a OT anti-smoking passage. I would suggest in today’s climate in which people argue as if one puff of tobacco smoke will kill everyone in a two-mile radius, if there was such an OT passage, I think it would be written on anti-smoker’s arms and spammed all the time. Instead, most simply take the round peg of tobacco (or alcohol) put it on the square hole of temple-of-the-Holy-Spirit or 5th commandment and try to force a fit with the hammer of personal judgement.
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santaro75
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I smoked for years. I did drink occasionally. I quit for a while. and i think i am going to start again.
i think the point is that as long as you are not giving a habit what you should be giving to God you are ok.
I think for example habitual drinkers that use it as spiritual medication or addicted smokers would have a hard time being spiritualy free the way God intends.
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i think the point is that as long as you are not giving a habit what you should be giving to God you are ok.
I think for example habitual drinkers that use it as spiritual medication or addicted smokers would have a hard time being spiritualy free the way God intends.
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