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Where in Pope John Paul II’s discussions on the Theology of the Body does it say anything about physical acts between a married couple? I have read several posters who quote Christopher West who is supposedly basing his work off of John Paul II.

Here is the link to John Paul II’s work:

ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2TBIND.HTM
 
I recommend taking the time to actually read the Wednesday Audiences. Adn when I say “time”, I mean TIME. Also, if you have access to the new translation by Waldstein, his introduction explaining Pope JPII’s philosophy is invaluable.

From the very first Wednesday Audience, JPII lays the framework for the physical acts between the spouses…“in the beginning”…“created in the image and likeness of God”. And the laying of this framework continues through…(so far I am on the 12th audience and it is still being laid out). To understand the morality of the acts between the spouses, one must understand what “created in the image and likeness of God” means.

Happy reading!
 
Oh, and just so you think I’m trying to be vague…you might try starting around TOB 24 or so and read to TOB 133 if you are focusing on the physical acts specifically.

If you want a quicker view…read Humanae Vitae (Paul VI) and then follow up with Familiaris Consortio (JPII).
 
The late Pontiff’s lecture series is his private theological reflections. I suggest concentrating on all the teachings of the Magisterium, including his encyclicals and the Catechism. As of late, the term ‘theology of the body’ has been applied to a wide range of different ideas that, at best, are not magisterial teaching, and at worst, are grave errors.
 
Where in Pope John Paul II’s discussions on the Theology of the Body does it say anything about physical acts between a married couple? I have read several posters who quote Christopher West who is supposedly basing his work off of John Paul II.

Here is the link to John Paul II’s work:

ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2TBIND.HTM
Dear saintthumbert,

Cordial greetings and a very good day.

First, it is, dear friend, important to observe that JPII’s Theology of the Body is 129 abstruse Wednesday audience addresses consisting of his reflections and meditations as a private doctor.

However, it is Christopher West who has popularized TOB and claims that it has “…already begun 'a sexual revolution that’s changing lives around the world”. Whilst Mr. West’s heart may very well be in right place, he is, I believe, leading many astray by his irreverent teaching. Indeed, his entire presentation of TOB is dangerous because it ignores natural law and the reality of concupiscence, owing to man fallen estate, as fundamental tenets of Christian orthodoxy. Moreover, he appears intent on chasing secular culture (already in a state of dire moral deterioration) so as to be relevant and ‘with it’, even stooping to the level of using indelicate and irreverant language to supposedly serve that end. This chap seems to have fallen for the fallacy that to reach modern man, shaped by the promiscuous and licentious culture of the West, you have to communicate and express yourself in coarse language to have a chance of being heard. However, this makes little sense because he mostly appears on stage in front of well-adjusted Catholics, including parents who have had to leave the room in horror and disgust. It also reveals a want of faith in the power of the Gospel and the Holy Spirit to bring conviction to men, however far they have wallowed in the cesspit of iniquity.

Mr. West, dear friend, was not always a spokesman for the Pope and Catholic doctrine, for at the age of 21 he nearly left the Church because he considered its teaching on birth control to be repressive and antiquated. Before his departure he decided to allow the Church to explain herself. Thus he read JPII’s 129 Wednesday audiences on the Theology of the Body and this changed the way he viewed the whole universe. He said, “I knew then that I would spend the rest of my life studying the Pope’s theology of the body and making it accessible to others”. Now this comes from a man who finds deep meaning in that debased sensory material known as rock music and the Spiderman III film (which he admits has occupied his thoughts for several years now). Moreover, this comes from a man who boasts of his own rock drumming and pounds his chest to the beat of a U2 song while belting out “DEE-SIII-RE” to illustrate one of his undergraduate style ‘theology’ lectures.

Notwithstanding our sex saturated culture, Mr. West seems to be thoroughly convinced that American Catholicism is Puritanical and this has resulted in some jolly warped and un-Catholic thinking. According to him, so many of us are apparently unduly prissy and this is bad for the Church’s credibility and for its mission to the world. However, this reveals a defective understanding of the faith of Catholics, for the pursuit of sanctity and separation from the godless world is a divine mandate (cf Rom. 12: 2; CCC, paras 2013-2015); we are bidden to strive for a more intimate union with Christ and to relinquish all that would hinder our efforts towards this goal. That has nothing whatsoever to do with Protestant Puritanism or with Catholic Jansenism, but it has everything to do with the godly pursuit of holiness. A hand in hand with the godless world type of religious practice is not an option for any Catholic, for we are to keep ourselves “unstained by the world” (Jam 1: 27).

The answer to Christopher West is really very simple, dear friend. We must needs ask ourselves, I think, just how much in recent decades has our sensus catholicus been dulled and how much has our standard of decency been abased by the abounding depravity in Western culture? Have we become so desensitized that we cannot see that someone who utters the vulgarity of Christopher West cannot be regarded as a spokesman for the Church and its holy teaching? Notwithstanding his good intentions, Mr. West’s ‘mission’ is, I think, just another sign of the apocalyptic spiritual declension of our times, amidst the worst crisis in Church history. He deserves our ardent prayers for his repentance and a change of heart, no less than the public condemnation his scandals require.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Dear saintthumbert,

Cordial greetings and a very good day.

First, it is, dear friend, important to observe that JPII’s Theology of the Body is 129 abstruse Wednesday audience addresses consisting of his reflections and meditations as a private doctor.

However, it is Christopher West who has popularized TOB and claims that it has “…already begun 'a sexual revolution that’s changing lives around the world”. Whilst Mr. West’s heart may very well be in right place, he is, I believe, leading many astray by his irreverent teaching. Indeed, his entire presentation of TOB is dangerous because it ignores natural law and the reality of concupiscence, owing to man fallen estate, as fundamental tenets of Christian orthodoxy.
An interesting adjunct can be found here, in Dawn Eden’s criticism of Christopher West’s explications of the magnificent teachings by Pope JPII.
 
An interesting adjunct can be found here, in Dawn Eden’s criticism of Christopher West’s explications of the magnificent teachings by Pope JPII.
Dear PRmerger,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. What a pleasant surprise, jolly good to see you on the boards again and hope all is well. Thankyou for kindly submitting the link to that scholarly article, dear sister, which I trust the devotees of Mr. West will read and ponder carefully. Dawn Eden shows an in-depth knowledge of the work of Christopher West and her critique is bang on target.

There cannot be any serious doubt as to Mr. West’s disordered approach to the topic of human sexuality, owing chiefly to his idde fixe with evangelising a new generation with his theology in the modern idiom so as to, supposedly, make it relevant and accessible. Unfortunately, dear sister, in his misguided desire to be right ‘with it’, he has sacrificed that holy bashfulness that ought to be the hallmark of any pious teacher of moral theology and in so doing has degraded and undermined the very message he seeks to communicate.

Sadly, dear sister, he is erroneously labouring under the mistaken notion that the pre-Conciliar Church was repressive and antiquated, but this, I think, is based soley upon his own individual personal experiences and not historical fact. Now I would not stop to deny that distortions can be found in the history of the Catholic understanding of Christianity, but they should be recognized as just that, aberrant distortions which are not representative of the core. It is untrue to claim that our Church has, until recent times, been utterly blind to the profound meaning and beauty of sex as the good Lord intended it. Morevoer, it is blatantly spurious to assert that prior to the permissive revolution, the beauty and pleasure of sex had been totally obscured by Puritanism and Manichaeism. Many of the older generation, still with us, would rise up and say that this is a gross misrepresentation that is factually incorrect (there are always exceptions) and that the catechesis that they received did not on the whole present a vision of sex as something ‘dirty’. To assert that this was the case is to engage in peddling untruths for polemical purposes, namely, to blacken and discredit the older Catholic moral theology. The reason for doing this is to present a less priggish (more worldly!) approach to human sexuality by making some concessions to the secularist view of sex and some of its debased conduct. Puritanism, contrary to popular modern Catholic opinion, was never the universal problem (within the bosom of the Church or without) and today it is barely a speck on the cultural landscape, the sexualisation of Western culture has certainly ensured that. If anything the pendullum has swung more in the direction of rampant sexual vice and the enemy is surely pornography not Puritaninsm these days!

What is seriously amiss with Mr. West’s presentation is that he does not approach his subject with a deep reverence. This chap, irrespective of good intentions, does not seem to grasp the delicacy, reverence, privacy and sacredness of the sexual sphere. Moreover, he underestimates the deep impact of Original Sin upon mankind and the virulence of evil desire, as do many modern day lay Catholics, and this results in defective and un-Catholic thinking.

Finally, dear sister, the writing’s of men like Christopher West and, to a much greater extent, Gregory Popcak, evince most clearly that they have assimilated the spirit of the age, especially as regards their presentations of sexual issues. Their indelicate language when refering to the mysteries of our most *holy *religion, or to things which are intimate and sacred, jars the spiritual hearing of any pious Catholic. Vulgarity of expression can never be justified for any reason and Messers. West and Popcak should remember that “our words are a faithful index to the state of our souls” (Introduction to the Devout Life, Francis De Sales, part III, chapt. 26).

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
FWIW, I love Christopher West’s teachings. His expounding on JPII’s ToB helped me discern a call to the priesthood.

To the OP’s original question, you might try the chapter on sexology in Love and Responsibility. This is a philosophical work, written when JPII’S was “just” Karol Cardinal Wojtyla. It’s a phenomenological reflection on sex. Again, it’s not theology, but philosophy, and written not by the pope, but by the man who would become pope. (This is a key distinction, relating to the amount of authority we ascribe to the work.) in spite of these two facts, it’s a very good read. It is dense, and can be rather time consuming. It would also be especially hard for someone who does not have a background in philosophy. I read it after finishing my bachelors degree in philosophy, and I found it challenging. But, if you have the time, and the energy, it’s well worth the effort.
 
Dear PRmerger,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. What a pleasant surprise, jolly good to see you on the boards again and hope all is well.
Right back at 'cha, friend! 🙂
Thankyou for kindly submitting the link to that scholarly article, dear sister, which I trust the devotees of Mr. West will read and ponder carefully. Dawn Eden shows an in-depth knowledge of the work of Christopher West and her critique is bang on target.
Yes, I think Ms. Eden is quite trenchant in her observations.
Sadly, dear sister, he is erroneously labouring under the mistaken notion that the pre-Conciliar Church was repressive and antiquated, but this, I think, is based soley upon his own individual personal experiences and not historical fact.
I don’t know that this is a correct summary of Mr. West’s position. I have heard him speak, and read some of his writings, and I don’t believe that he believes the Church was repressive and antiquated. Rather, he seems to believe that our culture has influenced our understanding of sexuality and has repressed the Church’s un-changing truth about the beauty of the marital embrace.
 
Dear saintthumbert,

Cordial greetings and a very good day.

First, it is, dear friend, important to observe that JPII’s Theology of the Body is 129 abstruse Wednesday audience addresses consisting of his reflections and meditations as a private doctor.

However, it is Christopher West who has popularized TOB and claims that it has “…already begun 'a sexual revolution that’s changing lives around the world”. Whilst Mr. West’s heart may very well be in right place, he is, I believe, leading many astray by his irreverent teaching. Indeed, his entire presentation of TOB is dangerous because it ignores natural law and the reality of concupiscence, owing to man fallen estate, as fundamental tenets of Christian orthodoxy. Moreover, he appears intent on chasing secular culture (already in a state of dire moral deterioration) so as to be relevant and ‘with it’, even stooping to the level of using indelicate and irreverant language to supposedly serve that end. This chap seems to have fallen for the fallacy that to reach modern man, shaped by the promiscuous and licentious culture of the West, you have to communicate and express yourself in coarse language to have a chance of being heard. However, this makes little sense because he mostly appears on stage in front of well-adjusted Catholics, including parents who have had to leave the room in horror and disgust. It also reveals a want of faith in the power of the Gospel and the Holy Spirit to bring conviction to men, however far they have wallowed in the cesspit of iniquity.

Mr. West, dear friend, was not always a spokesman for the Pope and Catholic doctrine, for at the age of 21 he nearly left the Church because he considered its teaching on birth control to be repressive and antiquated. Before his departure he decided to allow the Church to explain herself. Thus he read JPII’s 129 Wednesday audiences on the Theology of the Body and this changed the way he viewed the whole universe. He said, “I knew then that I would spend the rest of my life studying the Pope’s theology of the body and making it accessible to others”. Now this comes from a man who finds deep meaning in that debased sensory material known as rock music and the Spiderman III film (which he admits has occupied his thoughts for several years now). Moreover, this comes from a man who boasts of his own rock drumming and pounds his chest to the beat of a U2 song while belting out “DEE-SIII-RE” to illustrate one of his undergraduate style ‘theology’ lectures.

Notwithstanding our sex saturated culture, Mr. West seems to be thoroughly convinced that American Catholicism is Puritanical and this has resulted in some jolly warped and un-Catholic thinking. According to him, so many of us are apparently unduly prissy and this is bad for the Church’s credibility and for its mission to the world. However, this reveals a defective understanding of the faith of Catholics, for the pursuit of sanctity and separation from the godless world is a divine mandate (cf Rom. 12: 2; CCC, paras 2013-2015); we are bidden to strive for a more intimate union with Christ and to relinquish all that would hinder our efforts towards this goal. That has nothing whatsoever to do with Protestant Puritanism or with Catholic Jansenism, but it has everything to do with the godly pursuit of holiness. A hand in hand with the godless world type of religious practice is not an option for any Catholic, for we are to keep ourselves “unstained by the world” (Jam 1: 27).

The answer to Christopher West is really very simple, dear friend. We must needs ask ourselves, I think, just how much in recent decades has our sensus catholicus been dulled and how much has our standard of decency been abased by the abounding depravity in Western culture? Have we become so desensitized that we cannot see that someone who utters the vulgarity of Christopher West cannot be regarded as a spokesman for the Church and its holy teaching? Notwithstanding his good intentions, Mr. West’s ‘mission’ is, I think, just another sign of the apocalyptic spiritual declension of our times, amidst the worst crisis in Church history. He deserves our ardent prayers for his repentance and a change of heart, no less than the public condemnation his scandals require.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
I thought I was amongst the few who thought there was something uncanny about the way Christopher West puts forward his teaching on JPII’s TOB.

Thanks for adding your views.👍
 
For those who wish to criticize Mr. West, I would recommend actually reading his books and/or attending his course and developing your own argument about the substance of what he is saying, not the style. The church allows for difference in style. Her authoritaties have found that there are no significant errors in his substance. His style may not be for everyone, but that is okay.

Don’t base your opinions solely on Ms. Eden’s thesis. She admits that she has never attended any of Mr. West’s courses so her understanding to what is actually said is limited. But if you are going to include Ms. Eden’s thesis in your opinion, please make sure to take the time to read his responses as well.

Of course this is how the evil one wins, by dividing us and and causing us to attack each other like some of the posters here.
 
For those who wish to criticize Mr. West, I would recommend actually reading his books and/or attending his course and developing your own argument about the substance of what he is saying, not the style. The church allows for difference in style. Her authoritaties have found that there are no significant errors in his substance. His style may not be for everyone, but that is okay.

Don’t base your opinions solely on Ms. Eden’s thesis. She admits that she has never attended any of Mr. West’s courses so her understanding to what is actually said is limited. But if you are going to include Ms. Eden’s thesis in your opinion, please make sure to take the time to read his responses as well.

Of course this is how the evil one wins, by dividing us and and causing us to attack each other like some of the posters here.
There is no need to assess what we are saying here about Mr. West as being “divisive”.

There is certainly room for differing opinions regarding what Mr. West has proposed regarding the TOB.

And you are correct regarding the style vs content debate. I happen to have no problem with his style.
 
There is no need to assess what we are saying here about Mr. West as being “divisive”.

There is certainly room for differing opinions regarding what Mr. West has proposed regarding the TOB.

And you are correct regarding the style vs content debate. ** I happen to have no problem with his style.**
And the Church seems to have no problems with the content as it has given it the imprimatur.
The nihil obstat and imprimatur are declarations that a book or pamphlet is free of doctrinal or moral error. No implication is contained therein that those who have granted the nihil obstat or imprimatur agree with the contents, opinions or statements expressed
 
And the Church seems to have no problems with the content as it has given it the imprimatur.
Indeed.

The content, while technically orthodox, has led many to a counterfeit understanding of the profound, magnificent theology as proposed by Pope JPII (who echoes the teachings of the apostles, ECFs and great doctors of the church).
 
I don’t know that this is a correct summary of Mr. West’s position. I have heard him speak, and read some of his writings, and I don’t believe that he believes the Church was repressive and antiquated. Rather, he seems to believe that our culture has influenced our understanding of sexuality and has repressed the Church’s un-changing truth about the beauty of the marital embrace.
Dear PRmerger,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou for your response.

There appears to be little doubt that Mr. West’s understanding of Catholic moral theology has been deeply fashioned by his experiences in his late teens at the Mother of God Community, a Catholic Community in Gaithersburg, Maryland. It was, dear sister, a very rigorous regime and the Communities leaders exercised what would now be termed Puritanical control over the members lives, including courting. Now whether or not we regard this as ‘Puritanical’ (we may do so by the standards of today’s amoral climate), it seems almost next to certain that these negative experiences “appear to come into play in his interpretation of JPII’s teachings continence” (Dawn Eden, Revised Master’s Thesis on Christopher West’s TOB). Indeed, there are indications that he was greatly affected by these early experiences and that this has shaped his entire theological outlook into one of strong negative reaction against what he perceives to be Puritanism or Manachaeism.

If anyone entertains any doubt respecting this, then they need only remember that Mr.West believed that JPII’s teachings were “revolutionary” because “previous generations of Christians” were reared, in his opinion, under the burden of a “repressive” approach to sexual matters. What is important to observe, dear friend, is that he uses his own early experiences to support this assertion. Thus it cannot be denied that these experiences, especially those in the Mother of God Community, have indeed informed his outlook and attitudes, quite considerably, and have given him a jolly warped view of Catholic moral theology. As you aware, other Catholic academics, such as David L. Schindler and Alice Von Hilderbrand, have brought the defects in West’s theological approach to the notice of the public.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Must resist . . . must not jump into another West thread . . . nooooooo

Dear Portrait,

You neglect any of West’s own responses, as well as his many and varied defenders, like Janet Smith IIRC. Have you worked with any younger couples on explaining the Church’s vision and understanding about marriage and sexuality? I have, in a diocesan pre-Cana program, in which the materials are based on TOB and prepared by West. Most of the couples are already living together and contracepting; many do not attend Mass even monthly. You must reach your audience where they are. If you think handing these couples a copy of HV or Casti Connubi, or even Love & Responsibility is going to reach them, I suggest that you are wrong. I have seen first-hand the effect that explaining the Church’s actual teaching, via West’s understanding of it, can have on engaged couples, and it is overwhelmingly positive.

No one is saying West is perfect or above criticism, but it really is unfair the way he is criticised when he is out there trying to actually reach people.
 
Dear PRmerger,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou for your response.

There appears to be little doubt that Mr. West’s understanding of Catholic moral theology has been deeply fashioned by his experiences in his late teens at the Mother of God Community, a Catholic Community in Gaithersburg, Maryland. It was, dear sister, a very rigorous regime and the Communities leaders exercised what would now be termed Puritanical control over the members lives, including courting. Now whether or not we regard this as ‘Puritanical’ (we may do so by the standards of today’s amoral climate), it seems almost next to certain that these negative experiences “appear to come into play in his interpretation of JPII’s teachings continence” (Dawn Eden, Revised Master’s Thesis on Christopher West’s TOB). Indeed, there are indications that he was greatly affected by these early experiences and that this has shaped his entire theological outlook into one of strong negative reaction against what he perceives to be Puritanism or Manachaeism.

If anyone entertains any doubt respecting this, then they need only remember that Mr.West believed that JPII’s teachings were “revolutionary” because “previous generations of Christians” were reared, in his opinion, under the burden of a “repressive” approach to sexual matters. What is important to observe, dear friend, is that he uses his own early experiences to support this assertion. Thus it cannot be denied that these experiences, especially those in the Mother of God Community, have indeed informed his outlook and attitudes, quite considerably, and have given him a jolly warped view of Catholic moral theology. As you aware, other Catholic academics, such as David L. Schindler and Alice Von Hilderbrand, have brought the defects in West’s theological approach to the notice of the public.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
Consider that many Christians don’t know what to believe anymore, and thus have been deceived by secular forces into believing that Christianity really does teach these Puritanical views. I know many ‘Catholics’ who really do believe that the Church is an enemy of women and question Church teaching in regards to sexuality, as do many Protestants of their faiths. Is it really so bad to reaffirm that the marital embrace is a wonderful, beautiful, sacramental experience, and to do so in a way that this current generation will understand?

Perhaps you feel that West has oversimplified or over-‘sexed’ TOB. Perhaps he is actually presenting it in a manner that will open the eyes of this current generation to the beauty and profoundness of the human body and marital love. Jason and Crystalina Evert have done the same. What, pray-tell, is so bad about this?
 
And the Church seems to have no problems with the content as it has given it the imprimatur.
Dear R1ch4rd,

Cordial greetings and a very good day.

That I am afraid, dear friend, is an argument from authority. It is becoming quite common among contemporary orthodox Catholics to grant certain bishops a sort of practical infallibility, whereby they give an uncritical assent to anything they utter, tacitly assuming that because a bishop said it, it must, therefore, be correct. However, it surely must be conceded that Archbishop Chaput could have failed to properly discern certain things, such as the subtle errors and problems found in Mr. West’s presentations. Moreover, it should be observed that it was not the bishops, but the theologians who have brought these things to our notice because, to be perfectly frank, the bishops are often oblivious to such subtleties. This is not intended as an insult, rather it is to acknowledge that discerning such subtleties is simply not their charism. Indeed, this is the very reason why our bishops need the theologians; theologians have the charism of seeing and pointing out the truth before the bishops do. It is the bishops who then peruse the arguments/objections made by the theologians, weigh and discern them, and in the end officially decide what is true. Bishops need theologians just as theologians need the bishops if either are to fulfil their offices properly.

Apparently, Archbishop Chaput’s name has been removed from the lists of Theology of the Body Insititute episcopal advisors and it should be noted that he was silent during the entire controversy. Perhaps, dear friend, following David L. Schindler’s learned critique and the ensuing responses and rebuttals, the Archbishop’s eyes have been opened to see some things that he did not see hitherto.

In any event, dear friend, an Imprimatur or Nihil Obstat only mean that there are no blatant heresies within the book. They do not mean that the book is free of theological errors, which can still be found within the pages of such books (it is important that we distinguish between things which essentially differ, in this case, between dogma and theology). Moreover, these designations do not mean that the bishop who grants it necessarily concurs with everything that the author says and they certainly do not imply that every point the author makes is correct. All that the Imprimatur is saying is that there are no discernible heresies within the work, it is decidedly not saying that there are no theological errors, historical errors or logical errors. However, all this is a jolly long way from an official endorsement or even a positive judgement upon the work.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
Consider that many Christians don’t know what to believe anymore, and thus have been deceived by secular forces into believing that Christianity really does teach these Puritanical views. I know many ‘Catholics’ who really do believe that the Church is an enemy of women and question Church teaching in regards to sexuality, as do many Protestants of their faiths. Is it really so bad to reaffirm that the marital embrace is a wonderful, beautiful, sacramental experience, and to do so in a way that this current generation will understand?

Perhaps you feel that West has oversimplified or over-‘sexed’ TOB. Perhaps he is actually presenting it in a manner that will open the eyes of this current generation to the beauty and profoundness of the human body and marital love. Jason and Crystalina Evert have done the same. What, pray-tell, is so bad about this?
Dear thesmiter1,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Thankyou for your response.

The Church, dear friend, must always present the teaching of Christ’s most holy religion in a reverent manner, even if the audience is secular young people who are ignorant as to what the Church teaches respecting faith and morals. It cannot adopt the vulgar expressions of the godless world on sexual matters simply to win a hearing or make itself seem relevant and accessible. To do so is to demean that teaching and convey a lack of confidence in its message. This is not a matter of being unduly prissy or Puritan, it is simple decorum and showing respect for others. Far too much is made nowadays of the Church appealing to those who have been formed by our depraved culture and suffused by sexual content, but this is a grave error and one to which Mr. West has sadly fallen into.

Unfortunately, dear friend, our lot is cast in a time when the habit of communication of the dominant culture knows no restraint as regards discreet activities which ought not to be exposed and knows no mysteries that ought not to be fully unveiled. There is a complete want of a proper reserve in our brash world when speaking about intimate matters and this is a sad indictment of the sexualisation of Western culture. Now clearly, Holy Mother Church must rise above all of this gutter filth and provide a vibrant Christian counter-culture that certainly communicates jolly effectively to the masses, but which does so in a dignified manner as befits the holy religion of Christ. It is this that Mr. West is failing to do, sadly.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
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