There are 2,942 Catholic Denominations, Maybe more

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Syele said:
You are correct, I could have posted a less challenging title to my topic. That is exactly what I did the LAST time I pointed this out in a thread. And others have pointed it out as well. It’s being erroneous is pointed out on CAF on a regular basis, it’s not like this thread is sudden news. Sheesh , the mods even referred to this as a major delima of this section of the forum in a joking way over on the mod section. LOL I’d say it IS widely discredited. People just like to quote it anyhow. You got awfully defensive when the titles said there are 2,942 Catholic Denominations but yet you expect me and other protestants to be happy when you site numbers form the same source?
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I don’t really get what it is that you’re upset about then.

Did you think that by posting an informative thread, everyone who visits CA forums would read it and then Barrett would never be cited by anyone ever again?

There are new people and wackos coming on here all the time.

As for your last sentence, didn’t I point out that you are better off dealing with that issue within the particular conversation you’re having?

If someone says that, correct their source. Point out that Barrett is not reliable because he incorrectly compiles information.

Then I think that you should remember that they’re not lying, and that the underlying point that they’re trying to make (Protestantism has many divisions) is true.
 
rr1213 said:
The fallacies of Barrett’s works has been discussed ad nauseum in these forums and it just doesn’t matter. You turn around and it’s “there you go again” with people citing the same work. The title of this thread got the attention of Catholic posters. I don’t see it as being inciteful or a challenge at all. If the man’s methodology is correct for Protestants, then the exact same methodology is correct for Catholics. If incorrect, then incorrect. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
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I’m not defending Barrett’s work.

If it’s wrong, it’s wrong.
 
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Re: There are 2,942 Catholic Denominations, Maybe more
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How high can you count? That will help me determine if it’s better.
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I’m a graduate student in mathematics. Pretty high!
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Ha Ha, I like it:)

It happens all the time. This is in my view a fantastic forum but you will meet all sorts of folk who will ‘try to granny to suck eggs’!

Non-psychologists who appear unable to comprehend that psychologically 1+1=2 telling psychologists 'how they have erred in their thinking and conceptualising. When psychologists expound a well known, well evidenced, well replicated [by psychology undergraduates] proven fact, they get hammered for a 'bizzare faith in some wiered ‘unproven’ theory!!!

It is part of engaging with folk. If you post here, it is one of the facts you will have to learn to accept. You may well get told 1+1=3.25. It is something you will just learn to accept. If it winds you up, I regret to say, the answer is not to post here. 🙂
 
Syele, A+ for effort and use of logic. Count me in as a Catholic who got your point, and appreciated it, right from Post #1. Your title was perfect and Post #1 explained EXACTLY what your point was, and what it wasn’t.

I was simultaneously dismayed and amused by the unintentionally comedic responses you received. While I can understand that people read the title and then reply without reading the thread, or even apparently Post #1 (which is quite a rude way to have a conversation), I’ve got to single out this gutbuster. The gall to not read your post (or if read, didn’t even remotely understand, which is an even worse transgression), and then admonish YOU with “if you just take the time to read it” = priceless 😃
IanS said:
Sorry if this has already been used, but the CCC spells it out quite well, if you just take the time to read it:
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That said, you are wasting your breath. I fully admire the attempt to increase the level of discourse, both on charity and accuracy counts. As you’ve learned, it’ll bring you nothing but grief. I used to find this board a refuge from that, which I experience constantly on secular boards. I don’t anymore 😦
 
MrS said:
So let’s change sources… pick any phone book or yellow pages in any good size city… you choose.

Go to the church section and start counting… truly an unbiased source, yes?

However, I would expect you to list the different Rites (whom all belief the same in their different disciplines/practices) as One Catholic Church.

Can the same be said about any of the others in the listings??

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I am so glad you brought this up:

The Montgomery, Alabama Yellow Pages says:

A M E - 1
A M E - zion - 3
Adventists - 1
African Methodist Episcopal - 4
African Methodist Episcopal Zion - 17
Anglican - 3
AOH Church of God - 2
Apostolic - 5 (each could be individual denominations)
Assemblies of God - 8
Baptist - 163 - ( some of these are non-denominational )
Baptist - ABA - 1
Baptist Free Will - 2
Baptist Full Gospel - 2
Baptist - General - 1
Baptist - Independent - 10
Baptist - Missionary - 10
Baptist - Pentecostal Free Will - 1
Baptist Southern - 5
Bible - 1
Bible Missionary - 1
Buddhist - 1 ( had to include that one for humor’s sake )
Catholic - 7
Charismatic - 1
Christian - 2
Christian - Disciples of Christ - 4
Christian - Independent - 1
Christian Science - 2
Church of Christ - 32
Church of God - 8
Church of God - Clevenland, Tennessee - 1
Church of God in Christ - 8
Church of God - Seventh Day - 1
Community - 1
Covenant - 1
Espicopal - 9
Full Gospel - 8 (each could be individual denominations)
Greek Orthodox - 1
Holiness - 17 (each could be individual denominations)
Independent - 6 (each could be individual denominations)
Interdenominational -2 (each could be individual denominations)
International Pentecostal Holiness - 1
Islamic - 1
Jehovah’s Witnesses - 8
Latter Day Saints - 2
Lutheran - 3
Lutheran - ELCA - 2
Lutheran - Missouri Synod - 2
Methodist - 3
Methodist Episcopal - 1
Methodist-Protestant – 1
Methodist-United - 30
Nazarene - 3
Non-denominational - 24 (each could be individual denominations)
Orthodox - Catholic - 1
Pentecostal - 11 (each could be individual denominations)
Pentecostal Church of God - 1
Pentecostal Holiness - 6 (each could be individual denominations)
Presbyterian - 4
Presbyterian-Cumberland - 1
Presbyterian-Evangelical - 1
Presbyterian-Orthodox - 2
Presbyterian-PCA - 7
Presbyterian-USA - 4
Primitive Baptist - 4
Reorganized Latter Day Saints - 1
Seventh Day Adventists - 3
Synagogue - Jewish - 2
Synagogue - Messianic - 1
Synagogue - Traditional - 1
Unitarian Universalist - 1
United Church of Christ - 3
United Pentecostal - 4
Unity - 1
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches - 1
Word of Faith - 3 (each could be individual denominations)

And that is just the ones that are listed.
 
JoeyWarren said:
I am so glad you brought this up:

The Montgomery, Alabama Yellow Pages says:

A M E - 1
A M E - zion - 3
Adventists - 1
African Methodist Episcopal - 4
African Methodist Episcopal Zion - 17
Anglican - 3
AOH Church of God - 2
Apostolic - 5 (each could be individual denominations)
Assemblies of God - 8
Baptist - 163 - ( some of these are non-denominational )
Baptist - ABA - 1
Baptist Free Will - 2
Baptist Full Gospel - 2
Baptist - General - 1
Baptist - Independent - 10
Baptist - Missionary - 10
…

Buddhist - 1 ( had to include that one for humor’s sake )

…
Catholic - 7

…

Charismatic - 1
Christian - 2
…

Islamic - 1
Jehovah’s Witnesses - 8
Latter Day Saints - 2
Lutheran - 3
Lutheran - ELCA - 2
Lutheran - Missouri Synod - 2
Methodist - 3
Methodist Episcopal - 1
Methodist-Protestant – 1
…

Presbyterian-Evangelical - 1
Presbyterian-Orthodox - 2
Presbyterian-PCA - 7
Presbyterian-USA - 4
Primitive Baptist - 4
Reorganized Latter Day Saints - 1
…

Unity - 1
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches - 1
Word of Faith - 3 (each could be individual denominations)

And that is just the ones that are listed.
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Point made…

Point taken…

point…set… match

Thank you for your efforts J W (not the denomination)

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Wampa said:
Syele, A+ for effort and use of logic. Count me in as a Catholic who got your point, and appreciated it, right from Post #1. Your title was perfect and Post #1 explained EXACTLY what your point was, and what it wasn’t.

I was simultaneously dismayed and amused by the unintentionally comedic responses you received. While I can understand that people read the title and then reply without reading the thread, or even apparently Post #1 (which is quite a rude way to have a conversation), I’ve got to single out this gutbuster. The gall to not read your post (or if read, didn’t even remotely understand, which is an even worse transgression), and then admonish YOU with “if you just take the time to read it” = priceless :DThat said, you are wasting your breath. I fully admire the attempt to increase the level of discourse, both on charity and accuracy counts. As you’ve learned, it’ll bring you nothing but grief. I used to find this board a refuge from that, which I experience constantly on secular boards. I don’t anymore 😦
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I was merely trying to show that there may be some disconnect in the definitions that were being used. I have actually read the statistic that was used in the first post several times before.

I like the way you demonstrate how uncharitable the boards are by belittling others and referring to them as “laughable”. Real “Christian” of you. Thanks!
 
JoeyWarren said:
I am so glad you brought this up:

The Montgomery, Alabama Yellow Pages says:

A M E - 1
A M E - zion - 3
Adventists - 1
African Methodist Episcopal - 4
African Methodist Episcopal Zion - 17
Anglican - 3
AOH Church of God - 2
Apostolic - 5 (each could be individual denominations)
Assemblies of God - 8
Baptist - 163 - ( some of these are non-denominational )
Baptist - ABA - 1
Baptist Free Will - 2
Baptist Full Gospel - 2
Baptist - General - 1
Baptist - Independent - 10
Baptist - Missionary - 10
Baptist - Pentecostal Free Will - 1
Baptist Southern - 5
Bible - 1
Bible Missionary - 1
Buddhist - 1 ( had to include that one for humor’s sake )
Catholic - 7
Charismatic - 1
Christian - 2
Christian - Disciples of Christ - 4
Christian - Independent - 1
Christian Science - 2
Church of Christ - 32
Church of God - 8
Church of God - Clevenland, Tennessee - 1
Church of God in Christ - 8
Church of God - Seventh Day - 1
Community - 1
Covenant - 1
Espicopal - 9
Full Gospel - 8 (each could be individual denominations)
Greek Orthodox - 1
Holiness - 17 (each could be individual denominations)
Independent - 6 (each could be individual denominations)
Interdenominational -2 (each could be individual denominations)
International Pentecostal Holiness - 1
Islamic - 1
Jehovah’s Witnesses - 8
Latter Day Saints - 2
Lutheran - 3
Lutheran - ELCA - 2
Lutheran - Missouri Synod - 2
Methodist - 3
Methodist Episcopal - 1
Methodist-Protestant – 1
Methodist-United - 30
Nazarene - 3
Non-denominational - 24 (each could be individual denominations)
Orthodox - Catholic - 1
Pentecostal - 11 (each could be individual denominations)
Pentecostal Church of God - 1
Pentecostal Holiness - 6 (each could be individual denominations)
Presbyterian - 4
Presbyterian-Cumberland - 1
Presbyterian-Evangelical - 1
Presbyterian-Orthodox - 2
Presbyterian-PCA - 7
Presbyterian-USA - 4
Primitive Baptist - 4
Reorganized Latter Day Saints - 1
Seventh Day Adventists - 3
Synagogue - Jewish - 2
Synagogue - Messianic - 1
Synagogue - Traditional - 1
Unitarian Universalist - 1
United Church of Christ - 3
United Pentecostal - 4
Unity - 1
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches - 1
Word of Faith - 3 (each could be individual denominations)

And that is just the ones that are listed.
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Nice so we went from 30,000 protestant denominations to somewhere around 30. LOL
 
IanS said:
I was merely trying to show that there may be some disconnect in the definitions that were being used. I have actually read the statistic that was used in the first post several times before.

I like the way you demonstrate how uncharitable the boards are by belittling others and referring to them as “laughable”. Real “Christian” of you. Thanks!
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Yeah, I probably could/should have toned down the laughing somewhat (“gutbuster” was over the top), but I don’t think it’s terribly uncharitable to point out out the lack of logic/reading comprehension that Syele has had to deal with in this thread. This thread has been comedic. But I’ll concede my exasperation level last night with this thread did make me laugh a bit too hard.

BTW, I didn’t say anyone was personally laughable, but this thread has more laughable (in the lack of logic/reading comprehension sense) responses than any I’ve seen in a long time. Notice how often someone had to reply with “Did you even read the thread?”
 
Syele said:
Nice so we went from 30,000 protestant denominations to somewhere around 30. LOL
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I count at least 142 with a possible 305.

That is just one city out of a world full. A lot of denominations are not listed in the yellow pages.
 
The United Methodist Church in Tulsa is of the same denomination as the United Methodist Church in Boston as is the United Methodist Church in Boise, etc. In this example, there is a single denomination not three.
 
rr1213 said:
The United Methodist Church in Tulsa is of the same denomination as the United Methodist Church in Boston as is the United Methodist Church in Boise, etc. In this example, there is a single denomination not three.
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True, and your point?
 
JoeyWarren said:
True, and your point?
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The correct number is in the thousands, not thirty-thousand and, further, the vast majority of Protestants are grouped in less than 30 denominations and, futher, we ought not to be divided at all.
 
rr1213 said:
The correct number is in the thousands, not thirty-thousand and, further, the vast majority of Protestants are grouped in less than 30 denominations and, futher, we ought not to be divided at all.
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so, repent and come home to Rome… unless you choose to stay divided.
 
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