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Even Scientology believes in life after death.
they believed there was no such thing. for anyoneAre you suggesting that the Sadducees believed that life after death was not possible at all for anyone ever, or just that most would not experience it?
I don’t think you have to believe in life after death to be a Buddhist. Look it up I bet I’m right.Yes, life after death truly is the one belief that all religions share. It was believed by the Egyptians, Jews, Roman pagans, Greek pagans, Gaulic and Celtic Pagans, Zoroastrians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and many more.
…It’s amazing really.
Many things that get called “religions”, such as Hinduism and Buddhism and the various “indigenous” religions, do not have unified creeds or codes at least as we Christians would expect to see, and cults are often very localized. Paganism, in other words, can be compared to Abrahamic religions only in a very vague or very ham-fisted way.Actually, there are 3.
That is, all religions profess to believe something (creed), proclaim a moral law (code), and express a way of worship (cult).
- Creed
- Code
- Cult
I think a lot of people don’t take into consideration the fact that the Sadducees were a “politico-religious sect.” newadvent.org/cathen/13323a.htmI believe the Sadducees did not believe in life after death for anyone. I was taught the same about the ancient Mesopotamian civilizations, but I don’t know if that was true.
It looks like you’re just going to dismiss every counterexample as being non-religious. This is a classic No True Scotsman fallacy.I think a lot of people don’t take into consideration the fact that the Sadducees were a “politico-religious sect.” newadvent.org/cathen/13323a.htm
They were considered by some to be more of a “political Party”.
I don’t think you could separate sect from political party in Judaism of the last few centuries BC and the first century AD. Politics and religion were that intertwined. The point is they were a religious group that (unless they have been grossly misrepresented in what I have heard and read about them) explicitly denied an afterlife.I think a lot of people don’t take into consideration the fact that the Sadducees were a “politico-religious sect.” newadvent.org/cathen/13323a.htm
They are considered by some experts to have been more of a “political Party”.
To be honest, I haven’t been able to view any Sauducee texts that explicitly state that life does not continue after death. Acts 4:1-2 actually suggests otherwise: “And as they spake unto the people, the priests and the captain of the temple and the Sadducees came upon them, being sore troubled because they taught the people, and proclaimed in Jesus the resurrection from the dead.”It looks like you’re just going to dismiss every counterexample as being non-religious. This is a classic No True Scotsman fallacy.
But you can help us out here. What is your definition of “religion”? Be specific, and then stick with that definition for the remainder of the thread.
I don’t think one has to have a “unified” code to fit into this paradigm. If one identifies as a Hindu or Buddhist, it’s pretty clear that he has embraced a particular creed. At least, in generalities.Many things that get called “religions”, such as Hinduism and Buddhism and the various “indigenous” religions, do not have unified creeds or codes at least as we Christians would expect to see, and cults are often very localized. Paganism, in other words, can be compared to Abrahamic religions only in a very vague or very ham-fisted way.
You may be conflating 2 different posters here Oreoracle. I said that the Epicureans weren’t a religious group. Not Tepo.It looks like you’re just going to dismiss every counterexample as being non-religious. This is a classic No True Scotsman fallacy.
But you can help us out here. What is your definition of “religion”? Be specific, and then stick with that definition for the remainder of the thread.
Ah, and so it is. Nonetheless, I think a definition of “religion” would still serve this thread well.You may be conflating 2 different posters here Oreoracle. I said that the Epicureans weren’t a religious group. Not Tepo.
From what I can see he only did this once as well.
I already gave it. It’s any group of people that hasAh, and so it is. Nonetheless, I think a definition of “religion” would still serve this thread well.
But to agree on one thing, such as life after death, whether spiritual or physical, is at least one shared belief. Which puts the barrier not between religions and spirituality, but between those with faith and those with none.Many things that get called “religions”, such as Hinduism and Buddhism and the various “indigenous” religions, do not have unified creeds or codes at least as we Christians would expect to see, and cults are often very localized. Paganism, in other words, can be compared to Abrahamic religions only in a very vague or very ham-fisted way.
your flogging a dead horse at this stage.But to agree on one thing, such as life after death, whether spiritual or physical, is at least one shared belief. Which puts the barrier not between religions and spirituality, but between those with faith and those with none.
…for whatever it’s worth.
I already gave it. It’s any group of people that has
That is, all religions profess to believe something (creed), proclaim a moral law (code), and express a way of worship (cult).
- Creed
- Code
- Cult
If 99.99% of all religions/spiritualities believe in the afterlife, while only one “sect” of (extinct) Jews didn’t, I’d hardly call that much of a loss.your flogging a dead horse at this stage.
will I did, and Zoroastrians is a straw man.If 99.99% of all religions/spiritualities believe in the afterlife, while only one “sect” of (extinct) Jews didn’t, I’d hardly call that much of a loss.
Name one other actual religion that denied the belief in an afterlife and then I might consider the fact that I was wrong… Even the Zoroastrians who predate the Jews believed in the afterlife! Judaism as a whole does anyways.![]()
Examples range from as ancient as Ancient Egyptian mythology to much more modern like Jehovah’s Witnesses.Let’s disregard the sparse counterexamples for now and assume you’re right, TEPO. All religions believe in the afterlife. But as we’ve seen here, many religions believe in an afterlife for only a select few. So it’s not that religions feel that human life is so sacred that it can’t or won’t be extinguished; rather, these religions we’ve mentioned have carefully designed a sort of reward that can be given to reinforce good behavior while we’re here on Earth.
So I think a more blunt answer to the question posed by this thread is “All religions promise rewards for good people.”