There seem to be 2 types of former catholics that I have met .?

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Yes you are correct … Many people chose Not to pick up the cross that religion tell then to.
 
Yes its the same Holy Spirit.
Do you have a different one??
As saint Paul said . 1 cor 2. .
 
Jessy Duplandis calls it the “genetically modified gospel”
And he is a catholic.
 
Nice deflection

So, if you cite the Holy Spirit for your speech style (and of 2 other suspiciously similar accounts) Why don’t all Christians wrote in broken prose that is rather obsessed with Paul’s views on the Holy Spirit?
 
The way it came across was along the lines of “If you’re in a terrible situation and you pray, don’t be surprised if it gets much worse, and never better. This is the way God operates.” The implication that if I prayed, God would test me by making things worse was really not what I needed to hear at that time.The sermon was very bleak, which gave me the impression that the priest had spiritual troubles of his own.
 
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I left the Church because I don’t believe what it teaches and now practice a faith that I believe. My five siblings are all still practicing Catholics. I went to 12 years of Catholic school and was properly Cathechized, and I don’t have issues with the moral teachings of the faith, I simply don’t believe the theology.

I’ve had people try to convince me I left for all kinds of convoluted reasons, issues and resentments. I just didn’t see a point in continuing to participate in a faith I didn’t hold rather than participate in one that I did. I tried to just hang in there for awhile, but I felt I was living a lie.
 
Calliope said:
I simply don’t believe the theology.
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Let me riddle you this, Does your current faith require major investments in you as far as your time as well as your finances, equal to what the Catholic Church requested from you?

If it requires less of an effort to be what you are now, you can see how some might say its actually “sloth”.
 
thanksgiving said:
There seem to be 2 types of former catholics that I have met.

Have you found more types?
I Met them at Assembly of god church
And at SDA. .
The generally say they like the fellowship.

What reasons have you found?
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We can’t ignore that divorce hits Catholic families as well. Remarriage after divorce without an annulment of the previous marriage, if annulment is possible, gets a whole bunch of people in a jam who won’t go through the process.
 
It requires much of me daily as far as my time and effort. It doesn’t have an organization so as far as finances, there is no particular financial commitment. I spend money on items used in the practice of my faith, but it’s a personal choice, not a requirement.
 
I’m curious: What was it about the theology that you didn’t like?
 
I don’t dislike the theology. I don’t believe it. It’s not a case of choosing a story that I prefer or tickles my fancy.
 
Calliope said:
I left the Church because I don’t believe what it teaches and now practice a faith that I believe… I simply don’t believe the theology.
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Can you say some more about this, if you are willing?
Calliope said:
I don’t dislike the theology. I don’t believe it. It’s not a case of choosing a story that I prefer or tickles my fancy.
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Also I am curious why you are on a Catholic forum, given that you don’t believe it?
 
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thistle said:
There is no such thing as a former Catholic. A baptised Catholic remains a Catholic forever even if they turn their back on the Church and walk away.

There are only two types of Catholic - those in a state of grace and those in a state of mortal sin.
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No, a baptized Catholic remains baptized forever. It is possible for a member of the faithful to formally defect from the Church:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/p..._intrptxt_doc_20060313_actus-formalis_en.html

In this case, while the sacramental bond to the Body of Christ remains (because it is permanent), it is possible to have the Church enter “defectio ab Ecclesia catholica actu formali” in your baptismal registry. Your standing with regards to canon law is different than other members who have been baptised Catholic.

This does have canonical effect:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...rch_and_it_canonical_consequences_in_marriage

Having said that, most Catholics who abandon their faith do not go through the process of formally defecting from the faith. They are like spouses who don’t bother to file for divorce, but just up and leave and falsely assume that by their abandonment of their marriage it is over. You are right: nothing could be farther from the truth. I am saying that there is more than two standings with regards to the Church, but three: baptized and in communion, baptized but separated, and not baptized.

Whether or not a person is in mortal sin is a state of the soul, not a kind of person.
 
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I listen to EWTN radio sometimes, and something came up that landed me on the forums. I am a member from a number of years ago but hadn’t been on for a very long time. I saw this topic and decided to respond because I didn’t want my parents, teachers, or the parish I grew up in being blamed for my not remaining in the Church.

They did a great job of teaching me the faith, dogma, doctrines, etc of the Church. Some say that if I didn’t stay that defaults to poor catechization. That if I had been properly catachesized I would have been convicted of the truth of the faith. All I know is that my siblings, and their kids are all still practicing Catholics, and that from a very young age I held the faith I now practice, not realizing that it WAS a faith. I grew up in a Catholic community and religion and Catholicism were basically one and the same to me. I wasn’t allowed to play with non Catholic kids in the neighborhood, so until I got to middle school I have very little contact with anyone who was not Catholic at least in name, and usually in practice as well.

I’m not sure what more information you were seeking about my lack of belief in the faith. It’s not my intention to tear down the faith, argue against it or teach my own faith here. I just feel that sometimes practicing Catholics assign reasons rather than asking the apostates why they actually left. I don’t have an axe to grind.
 
Wow. I bet that makes the people you talk to want to come running right back to the church.
 
Andy235 said:
Did you know his cousin is Jerry Lee Lewis?
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Yes I did. Swaggart’s a good singer too.

Something about the AOG attracts white musicians from the mid south region. At least those with talent. Elvis started out singing in the AOG as well.
 
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