There's No Such Thing as an "American" Homicide Rate

[abucs]

I am aware of statistics and how they work. The question was what should be used in the comparison to gun ownership ====> gun homicides, gun deaths or total homicides,

 

[upant]

Very surprised to see a favourable link to a libertarian think tank on a Catholic site.

libertarians can’t be catholic?

 

[LilyM]

LeafByNiggle:

Didn’t you initially claim the correlation coefficient was negative? But I thank you for doing the work for me. And I guess you don’t have to contribute to H for H since the agreement was you would make the donation if I could prove the correlation was positive. But I didn’t prove it. You did. So technically you are off the hook.

But wait. Did you run the correlation against all homicides or just gun homicides? I don’t think anyone here ever claimed that gun control was going to reduce knife killing. That’s like expecting the Polio vaccine to cure cancer.

Yup, I did suggest it might even be negative, but I have the integrity to look at the data and show it for what it is.

Stop switching the goal posts, if the goal isn’t to reduce overall homicides then it’s a false argument. People still find guns or use other methods, reducing legal gun ownership has no relevant correlation indicating it might have an impact.

They may attempt to use other methods - the question is do they succeed as often and do they kill as many when they do.

 

[Theo520]

They may attempt to use other methods - the question is do they succeed as often and do they kill as many when they do.

Don’t run from clear data, it shows there isn’t even a weak correlation between guns and the number of homicide deaths.