..."They are filled with new wine."

[NotWorthy]

I love seeing new things when I re-read Scripture. I was listening to a talk on Acts, and heard this line (RSV version, some other translations don’t use the term) and was struck. It comes during the Pentecost when the Apostles are Preaching the Gospel and everyone hears them in their own languages.

Acts 2:13 - But others mocking said, "They are filled with new wine."

How Prophetic!!! We hear Jesus saying in the Gospels, “You don’t put New Wine into old Wine Skins for they will burst.” (paraphrasing). And here were have the Apostles, drunk on the New Wine of the New Covenant - or filled with the Holy Spirit. And the Jews, some blind to the teachings of Jesus, still able to utter these prophetic words!!!

Amazing! What are your thoughts?

 

[NotWorthy]

OK, so maybe that only amazes me? That’s OK, sometimes I’m my own best entertainment.

Maybe this will interest you. A fellow parishioner brought this to me last night. In Matthew 10, when Jesus is sending the 12 out to spread the good news of the Gospel, he says: “***Behold, I am sending you like sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents *and simple as doves.” It’s interesting that he uses serpents and doves in the same sentence. Of course, we know that the serpent represents satan, and the dove is a symbol for the Holy Spirit. I realize there’s a lot more to this statement, but I haven’t grasped it yet.

What are your thoughts?

BTW, Thanks, Jack, for the Matthew quote!!!

 

[nkmeck]

I love seeing new things when I re-read Scripture. I was listening to a talk on Acts, and heard this line (RSV version, some other translations don’t use the term) and was struck. It comes during the Pentecost when the Apostles are Preaching the Gospel and everyone hears them in their own languages.

Acts 2:13 - But others mocking said, "They are filled with new wine."

How Prophetic!!! We hear Jesus saying in the Gospels, “You don’t put New Wine into old Wine Skins for they will burst.” (paraphrasing). And here were have the Apostles, drunk on the New Wine of the New Covenant - or filled with the Holy Spirit. And the Jews, some blind to the teachings of Jesus, still able to utter these prophetic words!!!

Amazing! What are your thoughts?

Figured I’d share in your joy. I’m pretty certain that “New Wine” is actually the most accurate translation from the original text. Regardless, it’s a HOT FIRE verse!

God Bless

 

[NotWorthy]

Thanks, I’m glad someone is willing to enjoy this ball of yarn, besides myself!!

When I think of how prophetic those Jews were with their “New Wine” comment, it reminds me of our good friend Caiaphus when he prophetically said, “You know nothing, nor do you consider that it is better for you that one man should die instead of the people, so that the whole nation may not perish.” (John ch. 11)

Or Gamaliel, when talking of the New Church, said in Acts 5, “…if this endeavor or this activity is of human origin, it will destroy itself. But if it comes from God, you will not be able to destroy them; you may even find yourselves fighting against God.”

 

[Spirithound]

Congrats on finding this little gem and thanks for sharing it!
I’m becoming more and more convinced that pretty well every word uttered in the Bible is prophetic. The one that sticks out most in my mind is when Mary herself tells us that all generations will call her blessed…how can Protestants miss that?

 

[NotWorthy]

Congrats on finding this little gem and thanks for sharing it!
I’m becoming more and more convinced that pretty well every word uttered in the Bible is prophetic. The one that sticks out most in my mind is when Mary herself tells us that all generations will call her blessed…how can Protestants miss that?

Although I agree with this statement, let’s keep this an Ecumenical Celebration of the Bible, please!

Allow me to enjoy my ball of yarn with all my brothers and sisters, if you will.

For instance, take a look at John, chapter 4, and the well-known Samaritan at the Well. Rememer that she returned to the village to tell the others about this wonderful prophet who told her “everything I have done. Could he possibly be the Messiah?”

Well, John feels the need to tell us in the preceding verse that “she left her water jar and went into the town and to tell the people.…” (paraphrasing). I guess this woman had received the Water that Jesus was talking about when He said, “but whoever drinks the water I shall give will never thirst.”

 

[blessedstar]

americancatholic.org/Newsletters/EDC/ag1005.asp

You might like to read this meditation on the verse containing reference to the ‘serpant’ and ‘doves’. The way I see it is in this world we must know how to dance with the devil without marching to his tune. Evil will grab you by the hand and make you dance with it, so we have to know how to outstep it and the answer to this is the wisdom we find in Jesus’ teachings. As Christians we are constantly faced with evil and battle constantly with it, so we must know how to conquer it in Jesus without evil affecting us, so we remain simple and pure as a dove if we follow Jesus’ teachings.

 

[Spirithound]

Allow me to enjoy my ball of yarn with all my brothers and sisters, if you will.

I shall, I shall…and let me add another bit’o’twine to the bundle!

Luke 12:34: Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Mary “treasured” the words in her “heart”, and likewise, we are called to treasure God’s word in our hearts!

 

[James224]

Acts 2:13 - But others mocking said, "They are filled with new wine."

The Douay-Rheims says, " But others mocking, said: These men are full of new wine."

You are right. Another interesting thing is to read John 2:2-8 says, “And the third day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee: and the mother of Jesus was there. And Jesus also was invited, and his disciples, to the marriage. And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine. And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? My hour is not yet come. His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye. Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three measures apiece. Jesus saith to them: Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. And Jesus saith to them: Draw out now and carry to the chief steward of the feast. And they carried it.”

The changing of the water into wine signifies Baptism and Confirmation because wine signifies the Holy Ghost. You see this in the chapter you quoted where it says in Acts 2:15 which says, “For these are not drunk, as you suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.” The Holy Ghost is actually what they received. The water was in waterpots but these were not just any waterpots, they were the Baptizmoi. So the first miracle of Christ has to do with Baptism and the last (Jesus promised it) was Pentecost in which the apostles received the full anointing which we call Confirmation.

May God bless,

James224

 

[NotWorthy]

I shall, I shall…and let me add another bit’o’twine to the bundle!

Luke 12:34: Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Mary “treasured” the words in her “heart”, and likewise, we are called to treasure God’s word in our hearts!

Thanks and God bless you Spirithound!!!

 

[nkmeck]

Acts 2:13 - But others mocking said, "They are filled with new wine."

The Douay-Rheims says, " But others mocking, said: These men are full of new wine."

You are right. Another interesting thing is to read John 2:2-8 says, “And the third day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee: and the mother of Jesus was there. And Jesus also was invited, and his disciples, to the marriage. And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine. And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? My hour is not yet come. His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye. Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three measures apiece. Jesus saith to them: Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim. And Jesus saith to them: Draw out now and carry to the chief steward of the feast. And they carried it.”

The changing of the water into wine signifies Baptism and Confirmation because wine signifies the Holy Ghost. You see this in the chapter you quoted where it says in Acts 2:15 which says, “For these are not drunk, as you suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.” The Holy Ghost is actually what they received. The water was in waterpots but these were not just any waterpots, they were the Baptizmoi. So the first miracle of Christ has to do with Baptism and the last (Jesus promised it) was Pentecost in which the apostles received the full anointing which we call Confirmation.

May God bless,

James224

Oh I like this!!!