They're not Mohammedans. They're Muslims.

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adoglover1956 said:
That’s merely trying to be politically correct. How long has the word “gay” been used to describe homosexuals? Perhaps women with the name gay…or people that are gay in the sense of happy are insulted because they do not want to be mistaken for being homosexual.

BTW…feel free to call me Christian. I’m a follower of Christ. 🙂
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Something is PC when there’s an agenda behind it. We’re way past that. Muslims already IS the common usage, far and away, and has been for some time.
 
Sam_777 said:
Maybe because it seems Muslims love Muhammed more than Allah, because he is specific to them while God can be for Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

For example, if you remember the Danish newspaper which published Muhammad’ cartoons and how the Islamic world reacted after that, if that Danish newspaper had published something similar but for God then Muslims would have not reacted in the same level if any at all…
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Thank you! And since Sam is a former muslim living in a strict muslim country I believe he knows better than all of us combined. He seems to have hit the nail on the head.
 
adoglover1956 said:
Thank you! And since Sam is a former muslim living in a strict muslim country I believe he knows better than all of us combined. He seems to have hit the nail on the head.
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What he said didn’t address what I said, however, it was simply a different point. So my points still stand.

I still don’t hear any other names being proposed for Jews or Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose names invoke God, yet both deny the divinity of Jesus. 🤷
 
Havard said:
What he said didn’t address what I said, however, it was simply a different point. So my points still stand.

I still don’t hear any other names being proposed for Jews or Jehovah’s Witnesses, whose names invoke God, yet both deny the divinity of Jesus. 🤷
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As for Jewish people…that is a problem they will have to confront when they meet Christ. As far as JW’s…that’s a cult.

And you didn’t address my concerns about the use of the term GAY. But since this is just going in circles for the sake of being PC (despite you refuting that) I’m outta this one.

God bless
 
adoglover1956 said:
As for Jewish people…that is a problem they will have to confront when they meet Christ. As far as JW’s…that’s a cult.

And you didn’t address my concerns about the use of the term GAY. But since this is just going in circles for the sake of being PC (despite you refuting that) I’m outta this one.

God bless
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I’m happy to address them, but since you’re heading out, I’ll just say God bless as well.
 
Sam_777 said:
I do not agree with you, for example take this Saudi journalist incident, had he wrote against Allah only, the reaction would be less by just giving him some mosque lectures, but when it comes to Muhammed then that is a red line and a completely different story…
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So…they ‘freak out’ when Muhammed is spoken against and that’s a red line that shouldn’t be crossed, but when Allah (aka GOD) is spoken against they have a lesser reaction?
Can anyone say ‘upside down values’?

IMHO, I think Jesus would have ‘upturned some tables’ at that concept…
 
adoglover1956 said:
Actually…to reject Christ is not submitting to God.
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Not in our view, obviously. That is why we are Christians, but they (Muslims) are submitting to their belief of what God is, and that is my point. I don’t know why we have to resort to insulting people of other faiths when we don’t like it if people refer to us in a derogatory way.
 
adoglover1956 said:
Who is calling names? Mohamaden is a name that they have been referred to as. It’s better than constantly being called infidel…don’t ya think?
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And Catholics have been referred to as “mackerel snappers”, “idolaters,” and “Papists” for starters. Would you like people to call you those names? Or would you prefer to be called a Catholic or a Christian?

Mohamaden is a name the Muslims did not choose for themselves and have expressed that they don’t appreciate being called. Why go out of your way to call them something that they don’t like being called (and, seriously, within academic circles, “Muslim” is the only name I have ever seen followers of Islam called)? Why not be respectful to them because they are people who should be treated with kindness and respect?

The defense that some Muslims call Christians infidels doesn’t work for me. Christians are called to treat others with kindness and respect even when others treat them vilely. That’s how the world sees that we are a people set apart. I really am surprised at some of the hostility I see toward an entire group of people here:(
 
Brofessor said:
Hi guys, I’m mostly a lurker here but I wanted to post something that’s bothered me. I’ve seen people here, on a couple occasions, using the term “Mohammedan” to refer to Muslim people and practices, and “Mohammedanism” to refer to Islam.

I don’t know if the people using the word know the modern connotations, but nowadays it’s considered quite offensive and disrespectful to our Muslim friends. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammedan#Obsolescence

I know not everyone is doing this, but I felt like I had to post this. If I were a Muslim considering conversion to Catholicism, I’d be very hurt by people throwing this sort of archaism around–I’d feel like someone had called me a Saracen or something. Has anyone else noticed people using this term?
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I’ve never used these terms myself, and honestly haven’t noticed them in the threads on this Forum. But if you say they’re offensive, I’ll take your word for it.
 
AlltheRoses said:
Not in our view, obviously. That is why we are Christians, but they (Muslims) are submitting to their belief of what God is, and that is my point. I don’t know why we have to resort to insulting people of other faiths when we don’t like it if people refer to us in a derogatory way.
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Absolutely in our view. I guess your feelings would be the same for those that persecute Christians. Shame on those that accept those that persecute followers of Christ. Turning the other cheek doesn’t mean not calling people for what they are.

You are going a long way to support my conversion to the Orthodox faith.
 
A muslim is one who submits (to Allah). The word comes from aslim and the word spoken by our father Abraham (peace be upon him) when he said ‘aslamtu’ or “I have submitted” when tested for prophethood by Allah.

And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.
When his Lord said to him, “Submit”, he said “I have submitted [in Islam] to the Lord of the worlds.”
And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.” 2:130-132

Muhammaden is a derogatory colonial term.
 
Faris_Mee said:
A muslim is one who submits (to Allah). The word comes from aslim and the word spoken by our father Abraham (peace be upon him) when he said ‘aslamtu’ or “I have submitted” when tested for prophethood by Allah.

And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.
When his Lord said to him, “Submit”, he said “I have submitted [in Islam] to the Lord of the worlds.”
And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.” 2:130-132

Muhammaden is a derogatory colonial term.
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And calling Jews and Christians the offspring of pigs and apes is not derogatory?
 
meltzerboy said:
Even if that were true, which I don’t know, does it justify using derogatory slurs against Muslims?
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There’s no better way to prove the accusation of being a pig or an ape, than by responding like a pig or an ape.
 
Bezant said:
There’s no better way to prove the accusation of being a pig or an ape, than by responding like a pig or an ape.
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My point exactly…

Great description of the “barbarism” taking place in the Middle-East, Africa, Thailand etc. 👍
 
Sure they are worshiping a God, but are they worshiping the right God if it came from a false prophet?
 
Credo_ergo_sum said:
“Muslim” is an Arabic word meaning “one who submits to God”. Do they submit to God? :confused:
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In my opinion they do not submit to God. If they did, they would believe in the Trinity and they would all convert to Catholicism.
 
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