Thinking sick or morbid thoughts?

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A few thoughts:
  1. Hopelessness and despair are the seeds of the devil and he hopes they will sprout into the rejection of God’s love and mercy. We obtain that mercy through Sacramental confession and His love is unconditional. But, we should never take advantage of that love. Seek sacramental confession if you find yourself in this mode. Rejecting God’s mercy through hopelessness or despair is one of the worst things we can do, aside from being so overly confident of our own salvation that we don’t see a need to ever confess anything.
  2. The music to which you listen - do you think it is pleasing to God? Think about that really, then move on to point 3.
  3. Recall the passage about plucking out your eye if it causes you to sin or cut off your right hand if it causes you to sin. If watching something causes you to think impurely, stop watching it. If listening to something sends you into a state of hopelessness or despair, or drives impure thoughts or other sinful thoughts, change the music to that which is uplifting or don’t listen at all.
  4. Recall the passage where Jesus said that if a man looks at another man’s wife with lust he has already committed adultery. This means that thoughts can be gravely sinful. How do we know we crossed the line? Next time you are thinking something that is not pleasing to God, give yourself notice, then change the subject by doing something different. If you reject the notion of changing the subject in pursuit of what pleases you at the moment (the bad thoughts), then you have crossed the line and have committed a mortal sin in thought. Rather, get out of the situation, go talk to people and make sure they are the kind of people who will uplift you, not focus on the woes of the world. The child in Ethiopia who has no food - he has something to feel bad about. The man with no feet nor prosthetics who is rejected by his country and now begs on a street - he has something to feel bad about. Get things in perspective. God doesn’t make these things happen to people, rather it is selfishness and greed on the part of people that causes such things.
  5. Volunteer some place and give of yourself - there are many graces that will come from charitably giving your time, not to mention lessons on counting your blessings.
  6. Pray devotions - something so dismissed by modern Catholic culture. Pray a Rosary and it will bring you graces. Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet. If you like poetry, there are many wonderful things out there, very Catholic, very applicable to today and they are uplifting, merciful, and real.
God Bless!
 
These posts have all been very good, and the last two especially thought-provoking and supportive. Good job guys! Evanescence, hang in there and try to concentrate on the positive (Jesus’ sacrifice, His Resurrection, heaven, true love, etc…). You are not alone in the sinful-thoughts-popping-into-your-head-department (sorry for the extended expression). If you wish, I would very much like to talk with you about these things and maybe we can work through it eventually. Just send me a private message if you’re interested.

May God be with us all,
FdeS2
 
Dolores!!! You picked out some of my favourites!!! 🙂

Those three songs are on the Fallen album!
I performed “bring me to life” as guitarist in music and sang “breathe no more”

falls out of chair in shock when reading posts on giving up evanescence :eek:

Music is about expressing yourself, music has passion.
I really like music and admire evanescence (I’m listening to them right now lol)

I don’t think my thoughts refect from listening to Evanescence.
Their songs don’t get me all tensed or bring on evil thoughts, their songs serve more as a distraction from the thoughts.

Really I seriously cannot give up Evanescence!!! I love them so much!!!

Where does it say in the bible “thy shalt not listen to Evanescence music???”

If you think their lyrics are bad, the ones I write are worse!! but note I only write them to let out emotions and it does help, although some things I write down would probebly be displeasing to God, but still what is the point in bottling them up? he knows how I feel so its no use hiding it from him.

I recently bought some rosary beads I prayed them a couple of times, but I have been busy so I haven’t been able to pray them often, I tried once on each mystery, sorrowful, joy, glorious and mysterys of light.
You may have to drag yourself to Church. Push yourself to the Alter and recieve Christ. You may not want to go to Church, but make it an act of the will. GO.
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My parents haven’t been able to go to church (they’re a bit lazy on a Sunday)
But its possible that I can visit church on weekdays, I used to sometimes (my church is in a primary school i used to go to)
So the people know me, but the problem is I get the biggest greesys and looks everytime I go, so i don’t feel comfortable going to church. The people bite.

But I might give it another shot if possible, if I get those looks again then that would be it! :mad:

Really thanks guys for the help! 🙂 it really did help, my church is getting a new priest so I can have a fresh start with him and hope he doesn’t bite and give me greesys like the old one 😦

Thanks again 🙂

Sorry to be a dissapointment but giving up evanescence is a big ask and i’m just not willing to give them up, they are great! I havn’t noticed myself getting impacted by their music, I’ve got a friend who got impacted by Good Charlotte, she is turning Goth and everything. But the music has not impacted me that way.

Question, is it upsetting to God having me listen to this type of music?

Evanescence
 
QUOTE by poster named evanescence: Where does it say in the bible “thy shalt not listen to Evanescence music???”

Like I said, my daughter was 13 when she was listening to Eminem, who has a video in which he is burying his mother alive; Good Charlotte; Linkin’ Park – a lot of screaming non-music.

(I think I understand where the sadness and rage comes from–the high rate of divorce.)

So, to answer your question from the view point of a caring parent, the Bible says to “Honor thy father and thy mother.” “Children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right.”

It’s hard to be a Christian. There is temptation at every turn.

In light of the rise in teen suicides and suicidal thoughts, this kind of music is unhealthy and morbid. We know of teens who have attempted suicide; a teen whose father killed himself in my neighborhood; another neighbor’s friend shot himself.

So, the music is reflecting things that are against God’s plan for you.

Go to the Light for the Things of God are Beautiful.

Check out Jack Johnson! He’s our daughter’s favorite right now. She likes Green Day, Marooon 35, Everclear, Amanda Moore.
 
What does the 4th commandmant got to do with evanescence music? my parents like evanescence as well!

Evanescence isn’t as bad as Eminem, Eminem promotes violance, Eminem’s music reflects on his life, if you loom more into his life you would understand, his mother was not nice to him at all, and I think she was on drugs and stuff as well, watch his movie I havn’t seen it, net really keen on watching it.

But as I said there are “mature” audiences, Evanescence doesn’t really have a negative impact on me, while it may on others.
Check out Jack Johnson! He’s our daughter’s favorite right now. She likes Green Day, Marooon 35, Everclear, Amanda Moore.
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LMAO!
I am a fan of Greenday! they would be my second favourite band! have you listened to their lyrics though? like boulevard of broken dreams. wouldn’t you consider that negative as well!

It’s Maroon 5 not 35.
Everclear??? lol! Evermore!

Just letting you know 🙂

I don’t really like love songs, a lot of them are clicheid (can’t spell)
“I love you, I want to be with you forever, don’t know what I would do without you” I’ve heard those kind of words in too many songs!! Evanescence lyrics are unique.

I might try to decrease listening to them 🙂 thanks to you guys I feel guilty listening to evanescence :o lol

Evanescence
 
Evanescence said:
:banghead: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Darn! These thoughts are soooooooo hard to get rid of as well! even worse I have noooooooo interest in sex or lesbian behavior but I still get the thoughts!
…and the temptations…

And suicidal thoughts gosh don’t get me started on those!
And the negative thoughts on my self! I get those 24/7 gee I’m damned arn’t i?

When I get angry with others, those thoughts of murder come in!

But don’t worry there is no way i’m ever going to act on them! I would never want to kill anybody… Id rather suicide!
And even then with the suicidal thoughts I still won’t act on them cause I don’t want to offend god like that!

I did suffer from Depression and I still do but my depression is no where near as bad as it used to be.

Evanescence
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Have you thought of seeing a psychotherapist? I don’t mean a shrink that prescribes drugs…although it may be that you need an antidepressent…but a talk therapist to start. Sometimes these horrible thoughts you get over and over are part of an Obsessive -Compulsive disorder…or OCD.
 
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Evanescence:
Is it a sin to think morbid thoughts, killing yourself or someone else, thinking up made up sad stories eg. A flood came and everyone in your house drowned and your the only one alive, you make it to the roof and are left all alone.

What about negative thoughts.
I’m worthless, no point in living etc…

And sick thoughts Girl on girl action etc.

If so why? the thoughts arn’t harming anyone, sure it may be a bit disturbing but why would it be any of Gods concern?

Evanescence
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OKi,I listen to well all types of music, though I’ve recently cut out alot of the more hardcore things that are detrimental. Just a suggestion, why not get yourself infront of a Crucifix, imagine what God endured that you might live forever and the fact that your willing to give it up for a few moments of carnal pleasure. I mean when we’re standing infront of God, we’ll be kicking ourselves for doing anything remotely bad.

Hang around some nice pure people or atleast people that don’t foster the same habits. Get a confessor/spiritual director. Or atleast try to stick to one priest for confession. Confess each week that way you won’t become numb. And above all pray the rosary, Mary is after all “help of Christians” perhaps one day we can add “help of teens.”

I’ll pray for you, if anyone reads this post do the same for me :blessyou:
 
Have you thought of seeing a psychotherapist? I don’t mean a shrink that prescribes drugs…although it may be that you need an antidepressent…but a talk therapist to start. Sometimes these horrible thoughts you get over and over are part of an Obsessive -Compulsive disorder…or OCD.
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I did take medication, Lovan, but it did not work for me at all and eversince I am only 15 there is not much to offer in the way of medication for someone my age.

I did used to see a Professional counsellor, but I don’t see them anymore, they finished their “couse” on me, I was one of their gunnipigs lol!
I can’t stand cousellors anymore! they drive me up the wall with their “why?” why?" WHHHHHYYYY???" or “how do you feel about that?” (but slightly differently worded) or they would ask the same question but in ten different forms in asking it! Oh how I hate counsellors I can’t stand them.

So please no more cousellor or medication, I have had a bad experiance with both! ANd I don’t really agree on taking drugs anyways.

Spiritual Advice really helps for me, that is what benefits me the most.

Evanescence 🙂
 
Hi everybody!
I also have sick thoughts and other obsessive thoughts from time to time. I also thought about wether these thoughts might be from the enemy but one thing doesn’t make sense. If the enemy cannot read our thoughts then he also cannot know what we are thinking about and if he doesn’t know what we are thinking about then he can only randomly throw in thoughts which are totally out of context, maybe things like: You loser! or God doesn’t love you.
But often I am thinking about something and then I get these thoughts as a direct reply to what I am thinking about and the enemy can impossibly know what I’m thinking about.
Do you know what I mean? This makes no sense. 😦 :confused:
Maybe these thoughts are all my own thoughts, this would suck.
 
The problem is that the devil CAN read your thoughts and he can put new thoughts in your head! The trick is to get thrm out of your head as fast as you can! Just say a little prayer anytime you get these thoughts.
I recently bought some rosary beads I prayed them a couple of times, but I have been busy so I haven’t been able to pray them often, I tried once on each mystery, sorrowful, joy, glorious and mysterys of light.
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What if you cut out about 5 Evanescence songs a day and replace them with saying the rosary. Trade 15 minutes of music for 15 of prayer. Then you would have time for the rosary and you would be surprised how much just saying a rosary every day can help you! Completely therapist and medication free, right in the comfort of your own home, you can discourage the devil and build a better relationship with God! And then you’re not cutting out Evanescence completely, but you are cutting back for something even better! :gopray2:
 
lol! good idea! 🙂

Just I listen to evanescence music and do something else at the same time, so its not really taking up time.

Rosary is hard, it requires a lot of concentration, and the problem is I get some very bad disturbing thoughts as I pray the rosary!
Also I still am a bit afraid to pray to God/Mary etc. its not very easy for me.

Its hard I have so many supressed prayers and cannot bring myself to completely interact with God properly, my prayers really suck! lol like I have the worst conversations and I lose faith half way through, like God tuned out of my conversation. so it ain’t easy.

I have strong faith and trust, I just still have my walls and barriers I am trying to knock down.

Like I’m too afraid to be completly honest with God, cause some of my thoughts and feelings are very sinful and offencive to God.

Evanescence
 
I just wrote one of my world famous (sarcastic self-deprecation ) posts on an item right above this one - on impure thoughts - that might be relevant here. Take a look at it and see what you think.

In addition, for decades, I have been buying books… mostly but not always Catholic books… on a variety of religious and psychological topics. One of my favorites is “Weeds Among the Wheat” by Thomas Green. This kind of reading provides some alternative points to consider.

The issue you are raising is not new or unique. [Sorry about that.] Obsessive thoughts. A lot of people have wrestled with it over the millenia. It’s just the way we are built and as annoying as it is, it goes with the territory. In a sense, the thoughts you are that you are experiencing kind of are normal for someone of your age and experience. As you grow and learn and experience what’s going on in the world [NOT what’s on television or what music personalities are doing… that’s totally artificial], then you will be better able to put things into perspective.

Look for the good. Look for opportunities to thank people. Or to compliment them for some good thing they are doing. Or for a job well done. Look for opportunities to be helpful to others. It might be some small thing. Bringing in the mail or taking out the trash. Washing a dish. Maybe for some elderly person. Doesn’t have to be a Nobel Prize kind of thing.

One day, I was having some obsessive negative thoughts… and I was walking down the sidewalk and I looked up and there was a rainbow. And I looked around and I was the only one looking at the rainbow. Why didn’t everyone else look at the rainbow. It was gorgeous. Then I realized that because of trees in the way, and buildings in the way, I was the only one who could actually see that particular rainbow and it could only be seen from the exact spot that I was standing on. It was my very own private rainbow.
 
If you obsess over morbid things, find something productive or innocent to obsess over.

Personally, I went through a similar phase (though not murderous or suicidal thoughts, just depressing ones). I then began to concentrate on theology and England, and the thoughts went away.
 
What “innocent” things can i think of?

I try on innocent, then it just turns into morbid, even on religion! 😦

Evanescence
 
Have you stopped exposing yourself to “dirty” influences? For example, much of television and the movies are “dirty”. In addition, any songs (by anyone) that have morbid subject material only add fuel to the fire. Maybe that is the approach that you need to take. In my experience, once I stop watching television shows and movies that have bad scenes in them, it becomes easier to resist thoughts about that sort of thing. I also changed the kind of music that I listened to and I was able to purify my mind to a certain extent.

P.S. The less morbid material in the head, the easier it is to pray.
P.P.S. God already knows everything about you. HE is just waiting for you to sincerely ask HIM for help and grace. Believe me, it works.
 
Fde, its been AGES since I lastes watched T’V I’m not much of a fan of t.v I like going on the internet instead, and most of the sites I look at are christian sites.

I don’t watch much movies either and I am not a fan of gory, gross, violent ones either. Sometimes my friend might be able to succesfully get me to watch one! like resident evil! ewwwwwwwwww that movie was gross!

I mainly like humour and religious movies, like Bruce almighty.

So no I don’t watch much evil morbid stuff.
Evanescence
 
Even religion? Ouch…

Have you tried England? No, I’m serious. All I know is that studying history, more specifically, English history, got me out of my rut. Once I had that foothold, I was able to look at theology and soon, everything else, as normal.

Also, try St. Jerome’s solution. He was, even in his hermitage, obsessed with women. To clear his mind, he studied Hebrew. It worked.

Good Luck!
 
There you go, study Hebrew! Hey, if it works…

Evanescence, if it’s not the movies, and not TV, then what else is there? You have to consider the other possibilities, like music and/or friends. I don’t want to say that your friends are bad or anything, but what do they talk about? At school, the times that I was listening to my friends talk about their business were the same times that I was thinking bad thoughts. Just trying to find the source of the problem so you can get rid of it and get closer to God.
We’re praying for you.

Prayers and blessings,
FdeS2
 
Hi! What makes you so sure that Satan can read our thoughts? He’s not omniscient. He is just an angel. If he could read our thoughts how come he was not able to find out where Jesus lived during all the years. Why couldn’t he read the thoughts of the kings which visited Jesus? This doesn’t make much sense. :confused:

I really don’t know where these thoughts come from. 😦
 
Nasty nasty trick of satan…he is so laughable. Not only does he place these stupid thoughts into people’s minds but then he attempts to convince them it is part of them and in some way their hearts desire.
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Goodness…I fell for this trick many,many times! 😦

At least now I know the truth :o
 
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