Third Hour in your Church

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We don’t have Third Hour before Divine Liturgy at my local UGCC, but I’ve asked our priest about it.

Do you have Third Hour in your EC Church? With or without the priest? Recited or chanted? What resources does you use?

Thanks!
 
We do not. It’s an abbreviated version of Orthros before Divine Liturgy.
 
Do you have Third Hour in your EC Church? With or without the priest? Recited or chanted? What resources does you use?
We have Third Hour and Sixth Hour with Divine Liturgy. Most of the time I chant the Third Hour because basically I’m the only one there in time to do it who isn’t otherwise engaged (altar servers, choir rehearsing). It is done with the priest. I wait until they have vested and begun Proskomedia, then I begin. Sixth Hour is usually chanted by one of the choir members, with the priest still in the Holy Place usually. Third and Sixth Hour are very much an interaction between the faithful in the nave and the clergy in the sanctuary.

We have a binder which is set up with the Hours in the kliros on an analogion against a wall with an icon of the Theotokos with the Christ child on the wall over the analogion. Our deacon puts a copy of the Troparia and Kontakia of the day in where they belong in the Hours. When he’s not there I will borrow them from the choir. The Troparia and Kontakia of the day come off the OCA website. I’m guessing the text in the binder for the Hours also came from the OCA.

I was recruited to chant the Third Hour with no training other than having heard plenty of chanting in our parish and in the Russian Orthodox. A couple of years ago at the PSALM workshop we were given the opportunity to have a 15 minute session alone with one of the very experienced choir directors to work on anything we wanted to work on. I signed up for a session and asked for her help with chanting the Hours. She had almost no suggestions to alter what I was doing. Maybe someone else would have. 🙂

One change I’ve made is that Phillip Rolfes made me a prayer rope of four sets of 10 and I use this for the 40 Gospodi pomilui/Kyrie eleison/Lord have Mercy! I think it makes the breathing for that repetition of 40 easier. I’ve encouraged the guys chanting the Sixth Hour to also use it. 🙂
 
We don’t have Third Hour before Divine Liturgy at my local UGCC, but I’ve asked our priest about it.

Do you have Third Hour in your EC Church? With or without the priest? Recited or chanted? What resources does you use?

Thanks!
Chanted, without the priest, using a locally modified set of rubrics and the late 1990’s Ruthenian texts.

Note that the rubrics being used do not match the rubrics for reader services posted on the metropolitan cantor institute site,

I seem to be about the only person in the parish who pays much attention to the MCI pages…
 
Chanted, without the priest, using a locally modified set of rubrics and the late 1990’s Ruthenian texts.

Note that the rubrics being used do not match the rubrics for reader services posted on the metropolitan cantor institute site,

I seem to be about the only person in the parish who pays much attention to the MCI pages…
Thanks, Aramis.

Lots of good stuff over at MCI.👍
 
One change I’ve made is that Phillip Rolfes made me a prayer rope of four sets of 10 and I use this for the 40 Gospodi pomilui/Kyrie eleison/Lord have Mercy! I think it makes the breathing for that repetition of 40 easier. I’ve encouraged the guys chanting the Sixth Hour to also use it. 🙂
When you say these, do you say them quickly “lordhavemercylordhavemercy …” ?
 
We have the third hour before Divine Liturgy on Sundays with priest, deacon and Canter. During October we substitute the Akathist to Mary. During the great Lent we may substitute appropriate devotions for Lent
 
One parish church I know of has Third and Sixth Hours before the Divine Liturgy - but the Readers use the priestly intro and ending when singing them!

Is this something that should be brought to anyone’s attention or should it just be left alone?

Alex
 
One parish church I know of has Third and Sixth Hours before the Divine Liturgy - but the Readers use the priestly intro and ending when singing them!

Is this something that should be brought to anyone’s attention or should it just be left alone?

Alex
and he silently waits for a reaction
 
One parish church I know of has Third and Sixth Hours before the Divine Liturgy - but the Readers use the priestly intro and ending when singing them!

Is this something that should be brought to anyone’s attention or should it just be left alone?

Alex
The priest and deacon at my UGCC said that it is not to be done in our parish. We still don’t have it started yet, but I hope it will begin soon!
 
One parish church I know of has Third and Sixth Hours before the Divine Liturgy - but the Readers use the priestly intro and ending when singing them!

Is this something that should be brought to anyone’s attention or should it just be left alone?

Alex
It’s an abuse. Even the old diaconal form doesn’t use the priestly prayers. That’s one of the elements I’ve pointed out at home… and in the Ruthenian Metropolia of Pittsburgh, it’s not approved for readers versions to use them, tho’ only “experimental” readers’ versions and deacons’ versions are approved.
 
One parish church I know of has Third and Sixth Hours before the Divine Liturgy - but the Readers use the priestly intro and ending when singing them!

Is this something that should be brought to anyone’s attention or should it just be left alone?

Alex
We have Reader’s Vespers most Saturdays. These do not include the priests part. When I chant the hours on Sundays while the clergy are celebrating Proskomedia our newer priest occasionally fails to respond at for example the end of the Lord’s Prayer. I was instructed to simply say “Amen” and proceed. I would certainly not read his part.
 
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