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You said The name of this religion is Islam, the root of which is Silm and Salam which means peace. Salam may also mean greeting one another with peace. One of the beautiful names of God is that He is the Peace. It means more than that: submission to the One God, and to live in peace with the Creator, within one’s self, with other people and with the environment. Thus, Islam is a total system of living. A Muslim is supposed to live in peace and harmony with all these segments; hence, a Muslim is any person anywhere in the world whose obedience, allegiance, and loyalty are to God, the Lord of the Universe.

We here this concept of a peacfull Islam alot these days…I think the peace is peace with believers but the opposite for those who do not follow its precepts…since you offered please explain the following text from the Quran:

ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred… (8:65)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)

When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)

And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM (8:71)

FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)

FIGHT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, NOR FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF TRUTH, OUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOOK [Christians and Jews], until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and THEY ARE IN A STATE OF SUBJECTION. (9:29)

O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination. (9:73)

O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). (9:123)

I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah’s wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)

And that you should judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has revealed to you; but if they turn back, then know that Allah desires to afflict them on account of some of their faults; and most surely many of the people are transgressors. Is it then the judgment of the times of ignorance that they desire: and who is better than Allah to judge for a people who are sure? O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE. (5:49-51)
 
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Maranatha:
Welcome.

One problem I find is that there is no Catechism of the Islamic faith. The Qur’an seems to be interpreted multiple ways all of which seem to be valid depending on which audience you are addressing. This let’s you put the best spin on Islam but does not, seem to me, to be the clarity of truth that comes from God.
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YES!! I always had this cross my mind, but for some reason I never posted it. Definitely one of my biggest problems with Islam, though. No authoritative teaching whatsoever, like with protestantism.
 
Deus Vult:
ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred… (8:65)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve (8:55)

And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)
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This is a really foreign concept for me to try to wrap my mind around coming from a faith in which Our Lord does not force himself on us.
 
Simply put: Islam is not a religion of peace,or tolerance. Anywhere where Islam is the dominant religion the other religions have at best 2nd class status, at worst persecuted for their beliefs. And very strikingly there are no democratic Islamic countries, but maybe Iraq may be the first if the occupation works. But, hey, what so I know.

StMarkEofE
 
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mike182d:
Perhaps, but I don’t buy it. When was Medina attacked to provoke Muhammed’s aggression?

Regarding Christianity, it was quite the opposite. For the first thousand years Christians were tortured, burned while being crucified (compliments of Nero), and fed to lions, but not once is there an instance of a Catholic “rebellion” against pagan-Roman oppression…
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Make that the first 300 years. After that the story is very different. Throughout the later 4th century, for instance, Christian mobs destroyed Jewish synagogues and pagan temples. The Christian Empire forbade pagan worship and by the later fourth century was also beginning to persecute Christian heretics. Some of the later Byzantine emperors such as Justinian and Heraclius were particularly vicious. Byzantine armies massacred Copts in Egypt. That’s one of the reasons the Muslims took over so easily–they brought on the whole a juster and more tolerant rule than non-Orthodox groups had experienced under the Byzantines.

It’s certainly true that Islam is not historically a religion of “peace” in the modern liberal sense. But neither is Christianity. Violence is far more endemic to Islam than to Christianity, but neither religion fares that well in the historic record. If you want to justify the Crusades as a response to Islamic holy war (and i think that’s actually a valid argument), then Islamic holy war in turn needs to be seen in terms of the aggressive and destructive warfare waged by both the Byzantine and Persian empires in the years before the Muslim inasions.

The idea that Christians have historically been mild, peaceful people who let themselves be persecuted without fighting back has very little relation to reality.

Edwin
 
Rand Al'Thor:
But as far as Islam goes, I do have some questions about religious figures. Between Jesus and Muhammad, who is regarded as the greatest prophet among Muslims? I always thought it was Muhammad, but lately I’ve been seeing some Muslims on here post about Jesus and it sounds like he might be number one.
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Without an authoritative source, like an Islamic Catechism, there is no definitive answer to many questions in Islam. This allows, in my opinion, the religion to become what each individual wants it tro become. Thus the adversary wins out over man’s advocate.
 
Deus Vult:
. . .a Muslim is any person anywhere in the world whose obedience, allegiance, and loyalty are to God, the Lord of the Universe.
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If I love the Lord, my God, with all my heart, with all my soul, and with all my mind, then, can I be considered Muslim?
 
Hey everyone,

The muslim’s view on Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). It’s kinda like this. Adam and Eve were in paradise, believing that there is only one God and that He alone is worthy of worship.

They make a mistake, they seek forgiveness, they are forgiven by the Most-Merciful, and sent to earth.

Generations pass and people start worshiping idols, each other, several different gods. This is bad. God, from His mercy, sends them prophets. THe message has NEVER CHANGED. OH people, there is only ONE God, worship Him (kinda like the first commandement)
SOme of these prophets were given miracles so that the people around them would believe that they were indeed messengers from God. Many prophets were killed and harrassed trying to spread this message.

From Abraham to Moses to Jesus to Mohamed (peace be upon them all) the message ws one: THere is one God, worship Him.

None of these messengers had any divinity. Moses turned a stick into a snake, Jesus would cure the blind (to name just one of their miracles). They always said that their “miracles” were given to them, and that they, of their own accord, could do nothing.

This is Islam. One message, One God…worship Him.

HOpe this helps 🙂
 
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jimmy:
I don’t think you mean to belittle Christ, but if Christ is The Son of God. The Incarnation. Then it would be an insult to call him one of the greatest prophets because it would be a downplay of who He is.
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Hey Jimmy

look at it the other way… If Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) was NOT the son of god, than he would be insulted for you to call him that. Pious people dont like false praise.
 
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elizabeth4truth:
I’m sure there are good, holy and peaceful Muslims throughout the world.

My impression however, is that the Muslims perceive themselves, superior to all other human beings and are willing to kill everyone to prove it. That scares me and keeps me from trusting.

Peace to you,
Elizabeth
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Dear Elizabeth

My advise to you is to not depend on what the news-making muslims are doing…but focus on what their scripture says.
About pride/arrogance…here it is straight from the Quran where God is talking about the righteous people
“Only those believe in Our Signs, who, when they are recited to them, fall down in adoration, and celebrate the praises of their Lord, nor are they (ever) puffed up with pride”(Chapter #32, Verse #15)
 
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Faith101:
Dear Elizabeth

My advise to you is to not depend on what the news-making muslims are doing…but focus on what their scripture says.
About pride/arrogance…here it is straight from the Quran where God is talking about the righteous people
“Only those believe in Our Signs, who, when they are recited to them, fall down in adoration, and celebrate the praises of their Lord, nor are they (ever) puffed up with pride”(Chapter #32, Verse #15)
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How do we know that your interpertation of the Qur’an is acurate and their interpertation (news-makers) is wrong?
 
Can you tell us about the Muslim view of Mary, the mother of Jesus? I understand that she is mentioned in the Qur’an.
 
My question would be…What was Islam founded upon?

In other words, was it founded upon the Qur’ran or upon Muhammed, or something else. I will leave it at that, I am hoping to get a broad answer 🙂
 
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Blanka:
Can you tell us about the Muslim view of Mary, the mother of Jesus? I understand that she is mentioned in the Qur’an.
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Hey Blanka

Mary is among the most pious women to ever walk this earth. God uses her as an example to ALL believers (men and women)

Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- **chosen thee above the women of all nations ** (Quran 3:42)

“And Mary, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones” (Quran 66:12)

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flick427:
My question would be…What was Islam founded upon?

In other words, was it founded upon the Qur’ran or upon Muhammed, or something else. I will leave it at that, I am hoping to get a broad answer 🙂
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Hey flick427

I’m not sure I understand your question… Islam is founded on the belief that there is no one worthy of worship but Allah. Can you rephrase 🙂
 
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Faith101:
Hey everyone,

The muslim’s view on Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). It’s kinda like this. Adam and Eve were in paradise, believing that there is only one God and that He alone is worthy of worship.

They make a mistake, they seek forgiveness, they are forgiven by the Most-Merciful, and sent to earth.

Generations pass and people start worshiping idols, each other, several different gods. This is bad. God, from His mercy, sends them prophets. THe message has NEVER CHANGED. OH people, there is only ONE God, worship Him (kinda like the first commandement)
SOme of these prophets were given miracles so that the people around them would believe that they were indeed messengers from God. Many prophets were killed and harrassed trying to spread this message.

From Abraham to Moses to Jesus to Mohamed (peace be upon them all) the message ws one: THere is one God, worship Him.

None of these messengers had any divinity. Moses turned a stick into a snake, Jesus would cure the blind (to name just one of their miracles). They always said that their “miracles” were given to them, and that they, of their own accord, could do nothing.

This is Islam. One message, One God…worship Him.

HOpe this helps 🙂
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Can you please tell me in what part of the Bible Jesus said his miracle were given to him? Also, I find it curious that you used quotations to enclose the word “miracle” - to me that denotes skepticism -that you don’t believe miracles were performed.
 
Could you please explain the Muslim understanding of Jesus Christ as prophet and his relationship to Moses and Muhammed.
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Jesus and all the other prophets like Moses , Abraham and Mohammad (peace be upon them) have one message: To worship the One True God (The Creator) and avoid the worship of any creation.
It’s my pleasure to give you a brief description of Jesus in Islam:

Jesus was a Prophet and Messenger of God. He called to the oneness of God. He never claimed divinity for himself, nor did he ever ask to be worshipped.

He was born of a virgin. This was one of the many miracles regarding Jesus given by God. Jesus was born without a father. God says in the Qur’an, *“Truly the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust and then said to him ‘Be!’ and he was.” * [Qur’an 3:59]

God created Jesus as He created everything else in existence. Jesus, Adam and Eve were all uniquely created: Jesus was created without a father; Adam and Eve were created without a father or a mother. The rest of us were all created with a mother and a father. To believe that Jesus is the begotten son of God or that God has any relatives such as a father, mother, son, or daughter, gives the attribute of procreation to The Creator. Muslims believe this to be polytheism and it is absolutely forbidden in Islam. Likewise, giving attributes of The Creator to His creation is a great sin, which in Islam is clearly in opposition to monotheism. This belief is in contradiction to the teachings of all the Prophets and Messengers of God.

God is beyond any created or human attributes. Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, the word of God, the anointed one, sent by The Most Merciful God as a Prophet and Messenger.

God also informs us that Jesus, the son of Mary, is not dead, and that He raised Jesus up to Him. Muslims believe that the return of Jesus will be a sign of the Last Days. When Jesus returns, he will not come in the capacity of a Prophet and Messenger to bring new revelations. Rather, he will be the commander of the faithful and will destroy the antichrist, who will have brought to the earth enormous trials and evil. Jesus will follow the final manifestation of the law that was revealed to Muhammad.

Thx and peace,

deen
 
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Maranatha:
Welcome.

One problem I find is that there is no Catechism of the Islamic faith. The Qur’an seems to be interpreted multiple ways all of which seem to be valid depending on which audience you are addressing. This let’s you put the best spin on Islam but does not, seem to me, to be the clarity of truth that comes from God.
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Hey Maranatha,

I respectrfully disagree with you. The teachings of Islam are based on the Koran and sunnah (sayings, actions, and tacit approvals of the Prophet Muhammad). These sources are all also interpreted according to the understanding of the Prophet and those who were near to him. Amazingly, there is a science in Islam which authenticates these sayings and interpretations so that the Muslims will not stray from the correct path. Only those people with weakness in knowledge and who follow their own desires, will turn away from the true teachings of Islam.

I hope this helps

peace,

deen
 
So I take it that the Islamic definition of “Christ” or “Messiah” is simply “prophet”?

You’re misunderstanding the Trinity. It isn’t worshipping more than one God, it is three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) in one singular God.

So how do you explain the martyrdom of the earliest Christians, namely the Apostles? St. Peter was burned while being crucified, St. Paul was beheaded, St. Andrew was also crucified (others were as well, but I don’t want to list all the ways they died). All because of their refusal to deny that Jesus was the Son of God and that they had seen Him die and rise again. These people KNEW JESUS PERSONALLY. Why would they claim that He was the Son of God and willingly die rather than deny Him?
 
Can you please tell me in what part of the Bible Jesus said his miracle were given to him? Also, I find it curious that you used quotations to enclose the word “miracle” - to me that denotes skepticism -that you don’t believe miracles were performed.
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Hi,

Muslims totally believe in miracles. We have no problems accepting the miracles of Jesus (peace be upon him) because we know that God Almighty helped him to perform them.

The problem is that when people start to believe that Jesus performed those miracles as a sign of his divinity. We believe that God supported HIs prophets with miracles to prove to their people that they are true messengers of God.

Didnt the Bible say:

" All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth"

“I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear , I judge…”

Jesus also prayed to God before the miracle :

" And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said: Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

…that they may believe that thou hast sent me." - John 11:41-43

Thx and peace,

deen
 
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