'This is my body'

[paradoxy]

When the priest says this, is there a name for this moment during Mass? Thank you.

(I need it for a paper I’m writing on Ulysses )

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

When the priest says this, is there a name for this moment during Mass? Thank you.

(I need it for a paper I’m writing on Ulysses )

In the Latin Church they are called the “Words of Institution” this is when the Consecration takes place.

 

[paradoxy]

In the Latin Church they are called the “Words of Institution” this is when the Consecration takes place.

Does the Consecration take place at these words? Not the Consecration prayer ('And make this bread the honorable Body of Thy Son… And what is in the Chalice the honorable Blood of Thy Son… By Thy Holy Spirit…? - very free translation from the Orthodox Liturgy in my mother tongue )? In Orthodoxy, the same words re used, but this is not when the Consecration takes place.

Just trying to be absolutely clear here, I can really be a geek when it comes to precision.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Does the Consecration take place at these words? Not the Consecration prayer ('And make this bread the honorable Body of Thy Son… And what is in the Chalice the honorable Blood of Thy Son… By Thy Holy Spirit…? - very free translation from the Orthodox Liturgy in my mother tongue )? In Orthodoxy, the same words re used, but this is not when the Consecration takes place.

Just trying to be absolutely clear here, I can really be a geek when it comes to precision.

That is correct. That is why I specified the Latin Church. In the Eastern Church the Eucharistic prayer are a bit reversed. The Eastern Church believes that the moment is when the Epiclesis is spoken.

 

[pyropam]

My understanding is that the moment of consecration is called the “SANCTUS”. That was on my son’s test this past week.

 

[Beno]

My understanding is that the moment of consecration is called the “SANCTUS”. That was on my son’s test this past week.

Wow, that is so not correct. Is your son in PSR or CCD or in a Catholic School? Either way, the teacher or the textbook needs correcting.

 

[stbruno]

The words of institution also include the “epiclesis”

newadvent.org/cathen/05502a.htm

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

My understanding is that the moment of consecration is called the “SANCTUS”. That was on my son’s test this past week.

In the Latin or Roman Rite, the “Sanctus” is at the words “Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, God of power and…” They are part of the Eucharistic prayer and if i’m thinking right begin the “Canon” of the Mass.

 

[paradoxy]

Thank you for your help!

God bless!

 

[CrypticWritings]

In the Latin or Roman Rite, the “Sanctus” is at the words “Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, God of power and…” They are part of the Eucharistic prayer and if i’m thinking right begin the “Canon” of the Mass.

The priest first says the Preface and then the “Sanctus”:

“Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus Dominus Deus Sabaoth”
Translates to:
“Holy, Holy, Holy Lord, God of Hosts”
All of it is Latin except one word: Sabaoth. Sabaoth is an indeclinable Hebrew noun that means armies or hosts.
This text (amongst others) were improperly translated in the Missal of Pope Paul VI. This is one of the reasons our beloved pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI, had a committee looking over these errors not so long ago but I do not know what ever resulted from it.

After the “Sanctus”, is the Canon of the Mass.
When the priest says: ’HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM" or in English: "THIS IS MY BODY", he is now in the part of the Liturgy called the Canon, specifically, the consecration of the Host.

 

[muledog]

The words of institution also include the “epiclesis”

newadvent.org/cathen/05502a.htm

Actually, the article you mention states that the epiklesis occurs after the institution narrative.

Epiklesis (Latin invocatio) is the name of a prayer that occurs in all Eastern liturgies (and originally in Western liturgies also) after the words of Institution, in which the celebrant prays that God may send down His Holy Spirit to change this bread and wine into the Body and Blood of His Son.