This morning at mass: URGENT

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so im on my way to mass right, and i see this dude walkin on the side of the road. and i says to myself i says 'hey there’s a dude walkin on the side of the road!" so he flags me down, asks me if he can drive me somewhere. i said “ok mr. dude, i will drive you to your destination”
now i was a bit worried about making it to mass on time, but it wasnt very out of the way.
then he asked if i could drive him clear across down, so i thought, well i’ll be really late for mass, but… he needs help.
it was very cold out this morning.
long story short, i exchanged a bottle of anti freeze with him for 7 bucks (i got the antifreeze) and i made it to mass
JUST IN TIME
to walk up to the last extraordinary minister with the precious blood,
and i received.
my question is thus:
did i commit a sin by
A.) purposely missing mass and perhaps choosing a ‘lesser good’?
B.) did i commit a sin by receiving Jesus at literally the very last moment.

the devil doesnt want me to have peace of mind with this, so please let me know what’s going on, i keep second guessing myself!

Confused,
Mordocai
 
I don’t think it’s a sin to do God’s work instead of going to mass. first of all, it’s not sunday mass, so there is no obligation to be there. I think that makes a difference. I missed a special mass for women one time because my ride was late. I came in just as communion was being given out and I didn’t go. after it was over, the priest asked me why I did not recieve. had I not been to confession? I said, “Yes I have, but I missed mass and I didn’t think it was proper.” he told me that since it was not a holy day of obligation, it was not a sin to recieve communion.

as I said before, it sounds like you were doing the Lord’s work. if there were cars in the bible, jesus would have added to his “when I was hungry you gave me to eat, when I was thirsty, you gave me to drink. when I was nakid you clothed me…when it was cold outside, you gave me a ride.”

if it really is bothering you though, go to confession and get it off your chest. then you’ll be covered weather you need to be or not.
 
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Mordocai:
so im on my way to mass right, and i see this dude walkin on the side of the road. and i says to myself i says 'hey there’s a dude walkin on the side of the road!" so he flags me down, asks me if he can drive me somewhere. i said “ok mr. dude, i will drive you to your destination”
now i was a bit worried about making it to mass on time, but it wasnt very out of the way.
then he asked if i could drive him clear across down, so i thought, well i’ll be really late for mass, but… he needs help.
it was very cold out this morning.
long story short, i exchanged a bottle of anti freeze with him for 7 bucks (i got the antifreeze) and i made it to mass
JUST IN TIME
to walk up to the last extraordinary minister with the precious blood,
and i received.
my question is thus:
did i commit a sin by
A.) purposely missing mass and perhaps choosing a ‘lesser good’?
B.) did i commit a sin by receiving Jesus at literally the very last moment.

the devil doesnt want me to have peace of mind with this, so please let me know what’s going on, i keep second guessing myself!

Confused,
Mordocai
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I think the devil is making you second guess yourself.
You did the right thing - if it had been Jesus walking on the road and you failed to pick Him up you would not have been doing what the Lord wants.
"The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’ Matt 25:40
 
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Mordocai:
did i commit a sin by
A.) purposely missing mass and perhaps choosing a ‘lesser good’?
B.) did i commit a sin by receiving Jesus at literally the very last moment.
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A.) We are called to help those in need. Be careful you don’t do anything that will cause you to get mugged or anything, but it is good to show charity- that is a good reason for missing Mass- any Mass

B.) Maybe a venial one. To receive the Eucharist, you should have time for sufficient reflection, which it sounds like you didn’t have time for. It probably would have been best not to receive that day.
 
  1. Is there another Mass scheduled later in the day, so that you could’ve gone to it, instead of showing up late for this one?
  2. Do you think it’s proper to show up at Mass at the end of the Communion Rite and still partake in the Lord’s Supper after having missed 80% of the liturgy?
Depending upon your answer to the second question, you may/may not have committed a sin.

I, personally, wouldn’t receive Communion after having Missed so much of the Mass. I’m not sure why someone would even go to church after missing the entrance rite, penitential rite, gloria, collect, first (and second) readings, responsorial psalm, gospel reading, homily, prayer of the faithful, Eucharistic Prayer, Consecration, Our Father, sing of peace, Lamb of God, etc.

Besides popping in long enough to drink the Precious Blood, you were only around for the final prayer and blessing!
 
Thank you all for your answers!
I will talk to my pastor/confessor (he was actually celebrating mass, but i felt too embarrased to talk to him about it afterwards)

i just kept thinking the whole way there, “what am i going to do without the Eucharist today!?” and i kept feeling a ‘need’ for Jesus. Though, im not a spiritual master, so my feelings toward something can be deceptive (thats why i love the Church so much, for guidance)

i will just have to see what my priest says.

God Bless you all!
Mordocai
 
Actually you are fine. We can receive the Eucharist twice in a day, the second time you must assist at the Mass. You did nothing wrong. As a matter of fact, my guess is you were thinking about it the whole time you were driving this guy to where he needed to be so you were even properly disposed to do so.

I will have to look up the rule about how often we can receive but I will bet one of our Deacons or Priests will be able to provide it. I will check in near the end of the day and if you haven’t gotten it I will see if I can do so.

Brenda V.
 
One point no one brought up, since you are speaking about a weekday Mass where there is no obligation, you can show up at the last minute for no good reason, take Communion and leave, and you have committed no sin. I have heard priests and apologetics on CA Live mention this many times.

That would not work on Sunday of course.
 
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awalt:
One point no one brought up, since you are speaking about a weekday Mass where there is no obligation, you can show up at the last minute for no good reason, take Communion and leave, and you have committed no sin. I have heard priests and apologetics on CA Live mention this many times.

That would not work on Sunday of course.
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That is not necessarily correct. It is not proper to recieve the Eucharist if one misses “a significant part of mass.” The canon does not make a distinction between weekday or Sunday Mass. However, in this case I would only say that it was an imperfection because of a few mitigating factors. First, the law of charity demanded that the individual be assisted and second the OP was obviously not sure if it was a sin or not. I would not even be comfortable calling it a venial sin. However, obviously the OP’s conscious is troubled with the decision made and so I think that as the OP said, discussion with a priest about the matter is fitting.
 
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mosher:
That is not necessarily correct. It is not proper to recieve the Eucharist if one misses “a significant part of mass.” The canon does not make a distinction between weekday or Sunday Mass.
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Nope. During weekdays, it is all right to receive Communion even if a significant part of the Mass is missed. This, however would be the equivalent of a Communion service, and you would not be considered to have attended Mass. But attending Mass is not required on weekdays, therefore, you have received Communion outside of Mass, which is perfectly fine.

But you cannot do this twice in one day. If you wish to receive Communion a second time that day, then you must attend the Mass in its entirety and receive Communion there.
 
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porthos11:
Nope. During weekdays, it is all right to receive Communion even if a significant part of the Mass is missed. This, however would be the equivalent of a Communion service, and you would not be considered to have attended Mass. But attending Mass is not required on weekdays, therefore, you have received Communion outside of Mass, which is perfectly fine.

But you cannot do this twice in one day. If you wish to receive Communion a second time that day, then you must attend the Mass in its entirety and receive Communion there.
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I find that very dishonest and an abuse of the allowences given in the law. This is definatelly not following the intent established by the canons.
 
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mosher:
I find that very dishonest and an abuse of the allowences given in the law. This is definatelly not following the intent established by the canons.
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There’s nothing dishonest about it at all. No one is required to attend Mass on Weekdays, and one is definitely permitted to receive Communion outside of Mass. When you come in late just to receive Communion but not to attend Mass on weekends, then you have effectively benefited from Holy Communion Outside of Mass. One is not making any pretenses to the contrary in this case.
 
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porthos11:
There’s nothing dishonest about it at all. No one is required to attend Mass on Weekdays, and one is definitely permitted to receive Communion outside of Mass. When you come in late just to receive Communion but not to attend Mass on weekends, then you have effectively benefited from Holy Communion Outside of Mass. One is not making any pretenses to the contrary in this case.
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I understand the canon well and that is not the intent of the law. The intent of the law is to regulate communion services and other forms of receiving Communion outside of mass apart from danger of death. It is not in place to allow a person to skip a significant portion of the mass at their convenience. The reason for the first referenced canon (baring the reception of communion from a person that misses a significant portion of mass) was to stop this very practice.
 
I admire you for going the extra mile for someone in need. Most of us would not have done that for safety reasons. To go to mass when you don’t have to is admirable. To recieve or not to recieve??? I really think Jesus was smiling on you for your attempt to get to mass, help out your “neighbor” and then partake of communion. Some of us are so tied to the “regulations” that we don’t use good common sense. Now, what do you think Jesus is saying about all of this??? I can only guess, but it would be “Bless you my child for you have pleased me”. Logic and common sense go a long way!!!

Love and peace,

Mom of 5
 
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Mordocai:
i made it to mass
JUST IN TIME
to walk up to the last extraordinary minister with the precious blood,
and i received.
my question is thus:
did i commit a sin by
A.) purposely missing mass and perhaps choosing a ‘lesser good’?
B.) did i commit a sin by receiving Jesus at literally the very last moment.
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[puote=Can. 925]Holy communion is to be given under the form of bread alone, or under both species according to the norm of the liturgical laws, or even under the form of wine alone in a case of necessity.
It seem quite obvious that, under normal conditions, it is forbidden to receive Holy Communion only from the chalice under the appearance of wine.
 
Yes, but as I stated, the chalice was the only form of the Eucharist available. The Priest had left to head back to the altar, I had to make a decision. Doubtful that Christ would be mad and say “now now, you didnt receive me under the species of bread, venial sin for you”

come on
 
Let’s go to the true source of all true knowledge:

Matthew 12:1-9 “At that time Jesus went on the Sabbath through the grainfields, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, ‘Behold, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.’ But He said to them, ‘Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the sabbath and are innocent? But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here. But if you had known what this means, I DESIRE COMPASSION AND NOT A SACRIFICE, you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.’ And departing from there, He went into their synagogue.”

Mark 3:1-6 "And He entered again into a synagogue, and a man was there with a withered hand. And they were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, in order that they might accuse Him. And He said to the man with the withered hand, ‘Rise and come forward!’ And He said to them, ‘Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do harm, to save a life, or to kill?’ But they kept silent. And after looking around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, He said to the man, ‘Stretch out your hand.’ And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored. And the Pharisees went out and immediately began taking counsel with the Herodians against Him as to how they might destroy Him.

I’d say that you were living the gospel. You had compassion and were doing good. God knew your heart. 👍
 
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Mordocai:
Yes, but as I stated, the chalice was the only form of the Eucharist available. The Priest had left to head back to the altar, I had to make a decision. Doubtful that Christ would be mad and say “now now, you didnt receive me under the species of bread, venial sin for you”

come on
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Not exactly. Both forms were available, but you didn’t show up in time to receive the Host.

I’m not telling you what you did was right or wrong, just that in a similar incidence, I probably would’ve waited to receive the Blessed Sacrament at a later Mass that I could attend in toto.
 
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Marquette:
Let’s go to the true source of all true knowledge:

Matthew 12:1-9 “At that time Jesus went on the Sabbath through the grainfields, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, ‘Behold, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.’ But He said to them, ‘Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the sabbath and are innocent? But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here. But if you had known what this means, I DESIRE COMPASSION AND NOT A SACRIFICE, you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.’ And departing from there, He went into their synagogue.”

Mark 3:1-6 "And He entered again into a synagogue, and a man was there with a withered hand. And they were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, in order that they might accuse Him. And He said to the man with the withered hand, ‘Rise and come forward!’ And He said to them, ‘Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do harm, to save a life, or to kill?’ But they kept silent. And after looking around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, He said to the man, ‘Stretch out your hand.’ And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored. And the Pharisees went out and immediately began taking counsel with the Herodians against Him as to how they might destroy Him.

I’d say that you were living the gospel. You had compassion and were doing good. God knew your heart. 👍
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Holy Scripture is not a “how-to” book for liturgical celebrations. Hence, it wouldn’t make much sense to ignore current liturgical law and attempt to justify our actions based on a private interpretation of Scripture.

Our sacred liturgies are derived not only from Scripture, but from Tradition as well.

Many people do horribly wrong things while claiming that they were “living the gospel.” I think that’s what the most-recent group of women claimed when they attempted priestly ordination a couple of years back.
 
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muledog:
Holy Scripture is not a “how-to” book for liturgical celebrations. Hence, it wouldn’t make much sense to ignore current liturgical law and attempt to justify our actions based on a private interpretation of Scripture.

Our sacred liturgies are derived not only from Scripture, but from Tradition as well.

Many people do horribly wrong things while claiming that they were “living the gospel.” I think that’s what the most-recent group of women claimed when they attempted priestly ordination a couple of years back.
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Muledog,

I agree many people do horrible things in the name of the Gospel. I believe Sacred Traditions do not CONFLICT with the gospel.

This person was helping a person in need. He had all intentions of getting to mass. He made a split-second decision to take the Eucharist and when he went up, only the Precious Blood of Christ was available to him.

Per Catholicism for Dummies, page 206-7, THREE conditions are necessary for mortal sin to exist: grave matter, full knowledge, deliberate consent.

Per Catholicism for Dummies, page 149, Catholics can participate in Holy Communion if they’re properly disposed, which means they 1. are UNAWARE of any mortal sins that aren’t yet confessed/absolved.

Per Catholicism for Dummies, page 149, "The whole and entire Christ is in one consecrated Host or in one part of the Host, OR IN ONE DROP OF THE CONSECRATED WINE. Both elements of Communion aren’t necessary for the faithful to consume. (Now I do realize that “both elements” is talking about if you take the Host, you do not HAVE to take the consecrated wine. But the fact that BOTH ELEMENTS have the “whole and entire Christ” has to be taken into consideration.)

I think the bottom line is this person should go to confession as soon as available and let the priest decide. That is what I would do.
 
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