This question keeps haunting me.

[Little_Dove]

Hello everyone. I just wanted to know something. My grandmother recently died on Aug. 31 and ever since I have been wondering abt something. My grandmother was a faithful Sikh and prayed everyday and visited the temple every Sunday for service. She hardly ever hurt a soul and if u look at her life, she had none of the 7 deadly sins. However, she didn’t noe who Jesus was and never encountered the Gospel. Does this mean that my grandmother will go to hell? Also, I’m a faithful Sikh too, however I also go to church on Fridays for eucharistic adoration because i feel so in touch with God in this simple form of worship. However, I don’t see myself getting baptised in my life but I respect and follow the Gospel of Jesus. Does this mean i’ll go to hell, cuz i’m not baptised?

Hello!
I was just reading a wonderful book on purgatory last night. And the book advises never to give up praying for your deceased loved ones. It explained that God does not usually let us know what has happened to our dearly departed because He never wants us to lose hope! Even if you are praying for your grandma right now, God foresaw this prayer on your part (and all of the prayers of we who are praying for your grandma and you, right now) and could have applied them to her before her death! Our God is so amazing! He is so loving and so good! Any soul who sincerely wants to know and love Him, He will not reject! As you are familiar with Eucharistic adoration, are you familiar with Mary, the Mother of God?
She is always present, adoring her son especially during Eucharistic adoration. Next time you attend adoration, just say a little prayer to her to help you to know God’s will for you. She will never fail to help you! That I promise you!
May the Holy Spirit enlighten you and be your guide!
I’ll say a rosary for you tonight!

To Jesus, through Mary !

 

[Realcatholicgk]

**
Hi manveer, **

Hello everyone. I just wanted to know something. My grandmother recently died on Aug. 31 and ever since I have been wondering abt something. My grandmother was a faithful Sikh and prayed everyday and visited the temple every Sunday for service. She hardly ever hurt a soul and if u look at her life, she had none of the 7 deadly sins. However, she didn’t know who Jesus was and never encountered the Gospel. Does this mean that my grandmother will go to hell?
**
Only God can Judge, Only he knows! Anyone who says “yes or no” to you is only telling you their personal opinion! The Catholic church treachings do not prohibit her going to heaven if that was your real question. **

Also, I’m a faithful Sikh too, however I also go to church on Fridays for eucharistic adoration because i feel so in touch with God in this simple form of worship.

**Sikhs believe that God is Spirit alone, Your faith believes that Jesus was only a human. :ehh: How do you explain twisting your personal beliefs system to allow the belief in Our God and your God together? uch: ? **

However, I don’t see myself getting baptised in my life but I respect and follow the Gospel of Jesus. Does this mean i’ll go to hell, cuz i’m not baptised?

**
You can’t follow the Gospel of Jesus if you don’t get baptized or follow his teachings, which means becoming a Catholic! There just isn’t any “personal way” to follow Jesus!
You are talking foolishness or playing some kind of preverted game. As I stated before, Only God knows what your final fate will be. In the scriptures it says that if you know Jesus but turn your back on Him you can not have salvation, but Only God can judge a persons beliefs, heart and sins!

You seem confused, I know that your posts confuse me! I am not so sure I “trust” your words! **

 

[LDNCatholic]

Hi Manveer,

No special (name removed by moderator)ut on your question as others have answered it, just wanted to say I have prayed for your grandmother, and I’ll say a prayer for you. I also wanted to say how amazing it is that someone from a different faith practices Eucharistic Adoration when most of us Catholics ‘‘can’t find the time’’ (myself included).

God bless

Peter

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

…My grandmother was a faithful Sikh and prayed everyday

Do u have any confusion that your religion is not the truth ? As you are still a Sikh , I guess u have faith in your religion . So why bother what other people think about your grandma ?

 

[dolphinlove]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Do u have any confusion that your religion is not the truth ? As you are still a Sikh , I guess u have faith in your religion . So why bother what other people think about your grandma ?

She cares what Catholics think because Jesus is calling her. This is what happens when a person starts learning the truth with an open heart.

 

[planten]

** Likewise from Muslim point of view, it seems that your grand mother was a believer (Not an atheist). She believed in God and the Sikhs are well known to be serious Unitarians.

They are militant people, honest workers (Never begging), brave people. They spend in promoting their faith peacefully. That is a very good thing too. Your Grand Mother did all that and lived a good life. I present here the true Islamic teachings about such people:

Al-Quran, 2:62, Those who believe and those who are Jews and christians and people of other faiths, whoever believed in Allah (One God) and the last day and did good deeds (was peaceful), they have their reward with their Lord. They have nothing to fear for their future and they have nothing to be sorry (for anything of the past).**

It appears that your Grand Ma will fall in a good category of believing people who do not associate any one with God and so she will surely (Most Possibly) end up in Heavens. You have to pray for your Grand Maa and rest assured that if you are a good believer, God will accept your prayers in favor of your Grand Mother.

That was as much as the matter of your Grand Mother. I will not say anything about you. According to Islam, you are free to accept and follow any faith that you like.

 

[losh14]

Hello everyone. I just wanted to know something. My grandmother recently died on Aug. 31 and ever since I have been wondering abt something.

My condolences. May she know Christ’s infinite Love.

However, she didn’t noe who Jesus was and never encountered the Gospel. Does this mean that my grandmother will go to hell? Also, I’m a faithful Sikh too, however I also go to church on Fridays for eucharistic adoration because i feel so in touch with God in this simple form of worship. However, I don’t see myself getting baptised in my life but I respect and follow the Gospel of Jesus. Does this mean i’ll go to hell, cuz i’m not baptised?

One can sum up the Catholic position on non-Catholics by saying that we are responsible for the revelation given us. It would be unfair, perhaps even capricious for the Father to condemn someone who never heard His Son’s Name and could not call upon it. I trust your grandmother’s kind soul to our Lord’s mercy.

You have indeed been given a special grace to witness the adoration of the Eucharist. There are Catholics who do not answer this call to worship, and yet you have. I would strongly consider this a calling. We know from Scripture that baptism is essential to salvation (ie, 1 Peter 3:21, Eph 4:4-6), and so I would ask you to pray on this for discernment.

 

[Little_Dove]

Thank you so much for the prayers. I do want to get baptised but does that mean i’ll have to give up my sikh roots? i’m not willing to do that.

You know, Jesus tells a story about the reign of God. It can be found in the Bible, Matt 13:44-46. In case you don’t have one, this is how it goes:
“The reign of God is like a buried treasure which a man found in a field. He hid it again, and rejoicing at his find went and sold all he had an bought that field. Or again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant’s search for fine pearls. When he found one really valuable pearl, he went back and put up for sale all that he had and bought it.”

Knowledge and faith in Jesus Christ and membership in His Body, the Church, is the inestimable treasure and the priceless pearl. Once you find Him, everything else in your life takes second place, not that they will have no meaning for you, but that you will see everything and value everything only in relation to Jesus.

Take one step at a time. First search and pray earnestly with all your mind and soul for that knowledge of Jesus. When you truly come to know Him, you will love Him, then baptism will not be a stumbling block to your holding on to your Sikh roots, but you will see baptism and union with Jesus as your greatest good! You will be willing to give all you have to be baptized!

You are my prayers and the prayers of so many others!
Remember to ask the Mother of God for her help!

To Jesus, through Mary

 

[manveersihota]

She cares what Catholics think because Jesus is calling her. This is what happens when a person starts learning the truth with an open heart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i’m a boy not a girl! LOL:extrahappy:

 

[manveersihota]

You can’t follow the Gospel of Jesus if you don’t get baptized or follow his teachings, which means becoming a Catholic! There just isn’t any “personal way” to follow Jesus!
You are talking foolishness or playing some kind of preverted game. As I stated before, Only God knows what your final fate will be.

Now you’ve really angered me. I’m confused and I myself don’t noe what to do. I love both these religions and if you think this a perverted game then so be it! How can you use such derrogatory language. Tell you what, go through the bible and the gospels and tell me, where does it say, “if someone is trying to find their religious identity they’re playing a perverted game?” I really pray that God will give you some compassion. As you said "Only God can Judge, Only he knows! " So if He knows then why are YOU telling me this is a perverted game?

sry fr attcking you like this Realcatholicgk, but next time don’t use language that will hurt someone else’s religious sentiments.

Gob Bless

 

[LDNCatholic]

Manveer, I have a couple of questions for you, is it alright to send you a private message as I wouldn’t like to derail the thread?

 

[Contarini]

Oh God Bless You! but what of my case. i give it 110% everyday to live out His will, but do i have to be baptised to achieve salvation?

Don’t worry about that. Look at it this way: do you believe that Jesus is the incarnate Son of God, or not? Guru Nanak denied that God can possibly become incarnate (though to be fair he didn’t know much about Christianity and was mostly responding to Hindu concepts of incarnation). If you think he was right, then of course you shouldn’t become a Christian. If you think Jesus is in fact what we Christians believe Him to be, then yes, I think you are obligated to get baptized.

I know of course that it’s not that simple–you may not be sure, just as I appreciate Catholicism but am not 100% sure that it’s true, and so am unwilling to take the plunge and cut myself off from my Protestant heritage. The point I’m making is that we are all responsible for following the truth. It’s not that God demands baptism in some arbitrary way. It’s that if we turn away from what we believe to be true, we are doing something very bad to our souls.

Edwin

 

[Contarini]

Im not very familiar with the sikh faith, but you cannot bow to 2 masters.

What would the other master be?

And don’t say “Sikhism,” since by your own admission you don’t have a good idea of what Sikhism is.

Edwin

 

[look3467]

manveersihota,

The very fact that you came to this thread with your question is indicative of the stirring of God’s Spirit in your heart.

It is my understanding that God sees the sincerity of your heart and has chosen to touch you with His love.

Before I go any further, I am not a Catholic but am a believer in Jesus.

I do not deny anybody here in asking you to look into the teachings of the Catholic church, because obviously, you are have asked a question of them.

All I can do is share with you Jesus.

Your Mother in my understanding is saved due to the sacrifice of the lamb of God for the our salvation.

She may not have known of Jesus but yet demonstrated the love of God in her life which was a reflection of what God is, love.

I would look into learning who Jesus was, is, and how He relates to you, you may be pleasantly surprised at how wonderful; and real He is and waiting to love you.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Realcatholicgk]

Now you’ve really angered me. I’m confused and I myself don’t noe what to do. I love both these religions and if you think this a perverted game then so be it! How can you use such derrogatory language. Tell you what, go through the bible and the gospels and tell me, where does it say, “if someone is trying to find their religious identity they’re playing a perverted game?” I really pray that God will give you some compassion. As you said "Only God can Judge, Only he knows! " So if He knows then why are YOU telling me this is a perverted game?

sry fr attcking you like this Realcatholicgk, but next time don’t use language that will hurt someone else’s religious sentiments.

Gob Bless

**Hi manveer,

No offfense taken by me, nor meant to you! I was simply saying you can not practice two separate religions at the same time. :whacky: Go through the bible and show me where it says you can follow two different Gods?

The Jews had to give up their religion to follow Jesus, You will have to do the same if you Love Jesus. There isn’t any other way! Read the NT it is all there!
To kind of practice two religions is as I said foolishness or some kind of preverted game. What would you call it? You can’t be practicing your religion and almost practicing our religion.
I didn’t mean to insult you but your religious sentiments do not conform with any know religion so they aren’t valid, as stated. You can’t say I an a sikh who only believe in God the Father and them go weekly and worship God the Son Jesus, Who your religion says is only man! You also claim a relationship with mary Jesus Mother which no sikh would have. Yea I am confused. you seem to be confused which makes me confused. Words open doors anger closes doors. Explain your self,

You are being prayed for.

God Bless **

 

[manveersihota]

Manveer, I have a couple of questions for you, is it alright to send you a private message as I wouldn’t like to derail the thread?

sure why not.

to others,
thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut but your interpretations of Sikhism is a bit faulty. incarnation of god isn’t seen as impossible, He was just stating how the Hindus, at the time, believed every saint was an incarnation of God. That’s when Guru Nanak stepped in and said that the Lord only sends his incarnation down in times of great need. And he also prophecied the Apocalypse saying that "The incarnation of the Holy One [God] will descend upon the earth and save all those who are faithful to his word, at the end of kalyug [the last era of time]. And to the comments on how i can’t bow dow to two masters…umm wow. do u think Sikhism is pganism that creates all sorts of mumbojumbo gods and godesses, no. The first word of our holy book is “Ik Onkar” Ik=One / Onkar=God. Its like arguing about whether you should use corn or maze in bread, or whether to make syrup or sugar nectar. Or how about this, some one prays “Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy” while the other prays “Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison.” Now should they argue on which prayer is better? NO. same thing here, we believe in same God as you do. We worship him in the same way. We have our form of communion and gospels and we have our vespers and matins etc. so how am i bowing down the two different masters? i’m sry if i’m confusing anyone but i’ve done OODLES of research on this and i find nothing against what i’m doing. if you can find anything let me noe.

 

[Realcatholicgk]

sure why not.

to others,
thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut but your interpretations of Sikhism is a bit faulty. incarnation of god isn’t seen as impossible, He was just stating how the Hindus, at the time, believed every saint was an incarnation of God. That’s when Guru Nanak stepped in and said that the Lord only sends his incarnation down in times of great need. And he also prophecied the Apocalypse saying that "The incarnation of the Holy One [God] will descend upon the earth and save all those who are faithful to his word, at the end of kalyug [the last era of time]. And to the comments on how i can’t bow dow to two masters…umm wow. do u think Sikhism is pganism that creates all sorts of mumbojumbo gods and godesses, no. The first word of our holy book is “Ik Onkar” Ik=One / Onkar=God. Its like arguing about whether you should use corn or maze in bread, or whether to make syrup or sugar nectar. Or how about this, some one prays “Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy” while the other prays “Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison.” Now should they argue on which prayer is better? NO. same thing here, we believe in same God as you do. We worship him in the same way. We have our form of communion and gospels and we have our vespers and matins etc. so how am i bowing down the two different masters? i’m sry if i’m confusing anyone but i’ve done OODLES of research on this and i find nothing against what i’m doing. if you can find anything let me noe.

Hi manveer,

That makes your position much more clear.Thanks! Even in the christian religion, we have people who “claim” to be Christians but they deny that Christ is God. Some foolishly even think there are more than One God, in fact many gods and that they themselves can even become a god. Some believe they can do what they desire and still be saved because they say Jesus is God.

That isn’t the Christian Faith. That isn’t what Christ taught, They think they are following the Christian faith when in fact they are not even close to what Christ wanted them to follow.

As Cathlic, the church founded by Christ 2,000 years ago, we have the fulliness of His teachings and follow the correct path towards salvation. No religion founded by man is a real religion no matter what people wish to think or believe. They are following Satan.

I undestand Sikhism to believe in One God, however I do not believe that sikhs believe God has three natures, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Your journey starts with a single step. May you walk with Jesus!

God Bless

 

[manveersihota]

Hi manveer,

That makes your position much more clear.Thanks! Even in the christian religion, we have people who “claim” to be Christians but they deny that Christ is God. Some foolishly even think there are more than One God, in fact many gods and that they themselves can even become a god. Some believe they can do what they desire and still be saved because they say Jesus is God.

That isn’t the Christian Faith. That isn’t what Christ taught, They think they are following the Christian faith when in fact they are not even close to what Christ wanted them to follow.

As Cathlic, the church founded by Christ 2,000 years ago, we have the fulliness of His teachings and follow the correct path towards salvation. No religion founded by man is a real religion no matter what people wish to think or believe. They are following Satan.

I undestand Sikhism to believe in One God, however I do not believe that sikhs believe God has three natures, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Your journey starts with a single step. May you walk with Jesus!

God Bless

i totally agree with you now. i’m glad we have a mutual understanding now.