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One thing I have found helpful, particularly if you get into one of these go-rounds with someone you actually care about (most of my extended family are evangelicals) is to suggest that you agree together that each will pray for the other, that God will reveal His truth (or guide you into His will, or whatever language feels right for you and the situation). No one who is truly serious about his/her faith can refuse to pray for someone who asks for prayer - and what better response than to invite the Holy Spirit to lead that misguided person into Truth? It’s a gentle answer that turneth away wrath - and it just might lead to some conversions!

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Have a cd player ready for when they come and play the Rosary at full volume while you answer the door. l’m planning on doing this next time because i’m certain that they won’t come back again…

Something else, take all the booklets that they offer. It is better that you take those booklets from them, than having those booklets going to more people. Don’t read them, just throw them away. They may have interesting articles but there is bad theology in there. Even rat posion is mostly food with the tiniest amount of poison to kill the rat…

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greenpatrick125 said:
Have a cd player ready for when they come and play the Rosary at full volume while you answer the door. l’m planning on doing this next time because i’m certain that they won’t come back again…

Something else, take all the booklets that they offer. It is better that you take those booklets from them, than having those booklets going to more people. Don’t read them, just throw them away. They may have interesting articles but there is bad theology in there. Even rat posion is mostly food with the tiniest amount of poison to kill the rat…

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Great idea! 👍 In fact, turn on EWTN and hopefully Mother Angelica will be on saying the rosary with the sisters. Then invite them in, and say, “Can I get you something to drink while I finish saying the rosary, and then we can chat?” 😃

Also, always recycle useless paper!
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Last night my husband and I got a knock on the door. I was speaking to my grandmother so he answered. It was a couple who came to bother us. My husband told them we were Catholic and happy. The guy was like, “Oh I used to be Catholic,” and started his anti-Catholic speech. My husband was confirmed early in the RCIA process and then left for a deployment, so he has never had to deal with people coming to bother us. I don’t know what the deal is with the area I live in, but since we moved here, people knock on our door all the time. I have stopped answering the door. My poor husband is standing at the door with his mouth wide open in total shock that this guy is saying this stuff to him. So, I got off the phone, went to the door, and started defending our faith and they started yelling. I told them that they came to my house. I didn’t come looking for them and not to yell. She yelled again and I slammed the door in their faces.

How do I deal with this? Why do people feel the need to come to people’s houses and yell at them? I was so upset afterwards that I was shaking. This winter I had Mormons who would come by almost weekly, when I did open the door, they never yelled. It was like since we weren’t letting them dog our faith that we were wrong.
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What I find odd is that those who bash the Church seem to forget that without the Church they wouldn’t have the very scriptures they claim to go by!
 
My favourite comeback is to ask what sect they belong to and when it was founded and by whom. When they respond, say “And Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church in circa 33AD with the words ‘You are the Rock upon which I build My Church.’”

Living in England, jibes about five hundred years of oppression also work…
 
WitnessSpouse said:
OK…WOW!!!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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This cult was founded in 1948. They believe that Jesus has returned as their founder, who they call “christ Angsahnghong” (Intentional no-cap on my part) who has come in “The age of the Holy Spirit”

They also believe in a female image of God who they call “God our Mother”???

They were founded in Korea (see it can happen somewhere other than America), and appear to be akin to an SDA movement. They proof-text their beliefs, but appear to be neophytes in the area of preaching work. They have about 1.7 million members world-wide and have A LOT of $$$ if their facilities are any indication.

Their website will not allow a right click, so obviously they are concerned about a challenge to their beliefs.

Wouldn’t I love to have my bride (JW) open the door to these people? 😃 Oh, to be a fly on that wall!

This is a quote from their website: (had to retype it)
Just as salvation was withheld from those stuck of the name of Jehovah and failed to receive Jesus as their Savior in the age of the Son (Rom 15:4), salvation will never be given to those stuck on the name of Jesus in this age.
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Their founder proclaimed himself messiah?

Please be wary of the heresy preached by these people.

Peace Always!
 
:hmmm: Can this messiah walk on water, raise the dead, regenerate the sick and command the Hosts of Heaven? :rolleyes:
 
NHInsider said:
If you want to engage them, it’ll help if you know which version of altered Christianity they’re selling. Different challenges work against different errors.

But if you want to avoid the whole thing, not answering the door is probably your best option.

Or you could keep a crucifix and some holy water by the door, and as soon as they start, sprinkle them and hold the crucifix up and start praying, preferably in Latin. That should scare them away . . .

Sally
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Ok, this is really funny! 🙂
 
Church_Militant said:
Sorry about that Kendra. Have you considered a “No Soliciting” sign in your yard or whatever?

One thing that can be somewhat helpful with such meatballs is to keep a supply of good Catholic tracts at hand and just tell them “Here,this will help you better understand.” and close the door.

My two best choices are from Our Sunday Visitor’s Tracts and are linked below.

God’s peace my friend,
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Good idea!

Also, if the same people come again, ask them to please leave your premises. If they don’t call the cops :).
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
Last night my husband and I got a knock on the door. I was speaking to my grandmother so he answered. It was a couple who came to bother us. My husband told them we were Catholic and happy. The guy was like, “Oh I used to be Catholic,” and started his anti-Catholic speech. My husband was confirmed early in the RCIA process and then left for a deployment, so he has never had to deal with people coming to bother us. I don’t know what the deal is with the area I live in, but since we moved here, people knock on our door all the time. I have stopped answering the door. My poor husband is standing at the door with his mouth wide open in total shock that this guy is saying this stuff to him. So, I got off the phone, went to the door, and started defending our faith and they started yelling. I told them that they came to my house. I didn’t come looking for them and not to yell. She yelled again and I slammed the door in their faces.

How do I deal with this? Why do people feel the need to come to people’s houses and yell at them? I was so upset afterwards that I was shaking. This winter I had Mormons who would come by almost weekly, when I did open the door, they never yelled. It was like since we weren’t letting them dog our faith that we were wrong.
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I like it when people come to the door. I have never received an anti-catholic speech nor have I been yelled at. Those I have encountered have been polite. I view it as a chance to evangelize them. Sometimes it is not a good time and I have never had them resist coming back at another time. But I like to engage them and hope that I plant a seed or two that might sprout at some point in the future–I know that they won’t shake my faith and that there are answers to anything they bring up and I am happy to go down that path with them. I always consider the possibilty that God might have sent them to my door to have a seed planted. So I try to act accordingly. Thats what I try to do.

To be quite honest there is a part of me that respects people who have the courage to attempt to evangelize. I don’t view these people as “coming to bother us”. I view them as coming to share their faith–something they deeply believe in–something that has changed their life enough to make them want to go out and knock on my door to share.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
 
NHInsider said:
Or you could keep a crucifix and some holy water by the door, and as soon as they start, sprinkle them and hold the crucifix up and start praying, preferably in Latin. That should scare them away . . .

Sally
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That’s classic. 👍
 
NHInsider said:
Or you could keep a crucifix and some holy water by the door, and as soon as they start, sprinkle them and hold the crucifix up and start praying, preferably in Latin. That should scare them away . . .

Sally
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😃 Haha!
 
I believe my mum has actually done a variation of what Sally suggested once or twice. I have witnessed JWs running off once as our parish priest had turned up to consult my mum over my brother’s baptism…
 
MarkInOregon said:
I like it when people come to the door. I have never received an anti-catholic speech nor have I been yelled at. Those I have encountered have been polite. I view it as a chance to evangelize them. Sometimes it is not a good time and I have never had them resist coming back at another time. But I like to engage them and hope that I plant a seed or two that might sprout at some point in the future–I know that they won’t shake my faith and that there are answers to anything they bring up and I am happy to go down that path with them. I always consider the possibilty that God might have sent them to my door to have a seed planted. So I try to act accordingly. Thats what I try to do.

To be quite honest there is a part of me that respects people who have the courage to attempt to evangelize. I don’t view these people as “coming to bother us”. I view them as coming to share their faith–something they deeply believe in–something that has changed their life enough to make them want to go out and knock on my door to share.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
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I am not comfortable with strangers wanting to come into my home. I am 5’0. I couldn’t stop men if they decided to act a fool. My husband is home now, but for 7 months I would have random people coming to my door trying to convert me. Just me, all by myself. I am not comfortable with that. These weren’t Mormons, but I did finally tell the Mormon boys, who kept banging on my door at 9 at night, that if they showed back up that I was calling the police. If I want to know about a church I can google or contact that church. That’s what I did when I decided to convert to Catholicism. I googled, then went to the closest Catholic Church to me. 🤷
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
I am not comfortable with strangers wanting to come into my home. I am 5’0. I couldn’t stop men if they decided to act a fool. My husband is home now, but for 7 months I would have random people coming to my door trying to convert me. Just me, all by myself. I am not comfortable with that. These weren’t Mormons, but I did finally tell the Mormon boys, who kept banging on my door at 9 at night, that if they showed back up that I was calling the police. If I want to know about a church I can google or contact that church. That’s what I did when I decided to convert to Catholicism. I googled, then went to the closest Catholic Church to me. 🤷
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I understand. In our society and culture we have become leary and distrusting–maybe or even probably with good reason. I just don’t want to live in that kind of society and so I try to act accordingly–notice I say try (and I am a male–probably makes a difference). I for one am more annoyed by people who want to sell me something. I don’t mind those pushing ideas. In our area we seem more fortunate than you – I haven’t experienced anyone rude or yelling–nor have I ever had anyone come by as late as 9 pm–I am thinking political canvassers maybe 8 pm at the latest. Perhaps that also colors my attitude. I just think we are all worse off hunkered down in our houses, not knowing our neighbors and afraid to answer the door. I miss a time when people spent time on their front porches, said hi to strangers passing by, talked to the neighbors, children playing in the neighborhood, the fathers out watering the law at night, those down on their luck knocking on the back door for a piece of bread–call me foolish, but I am going to go down fighting. I did not mean to imply anything with my post–I was simply providing information regarding what I try to do and the reasons why. I have a similar attitude with those panhandeling on the side of the road. I will give/offer them some food if I have it in my car–like I said call me foolish. I think we all have area’s where we are bothered - this isn’t mine and I was only explaining why. As a parent I’d probably be more comfortable if my 22 year old daughter didn’t open her door to strangers though.

Could I ask why you decided to convert to Catholicism? Most people don’t do it in a vaccum but rather through some personal contact of theirs and often that contact helps guide them or points them to those who can guide/assist them on their journey into the Church.

I wish you peace at the door but even more the Peace of Christ,
Mark
 
MarkInOregon said:
I understand. In our society and culture we have become leary and distrusting–maybe or even probably with good reason. I just don’t want to live in that kind of society and so I try to act accordingly–notice I say try (and I am a male–probably makes a difference). I for one am more annoyed by people who want to sell me something. I don’t mind those pushing ideas. In our area we seem more fortunate than you – I haven’t experienced anyone rude or yelling–nor have I ever had anyone come by as late as 9 pm–I am thinking political canvassers maybe 8 pm at the latest. Perhaps that also colors my attitude. I just think we are all worse off hunkered down in our houses, not knowing our neighbors and afraid to answer the door. I miss a time when people spent time on their front porches, said hi to strangers passing by, talked to the neighbors, children playing in the neighborhood, the fathers out watering the law at night, those down on their luck knocking on the back door for a piece of bread–call me foolish, but I am going to go down fighting. I did not mean to imply anything with my post–I was simply providing information regarding what I try to do and the reasons why. I have a similar attitude with those panhandeling on the side of the road. I will give/offer them some food if I have it in my car–like I said call me foolish. I think we all have area’s where we are bothered - this isn’t mine and I was only explaining why. As a parent I’d probably be more comfortable if my 22 year old daughter didn’t open her door to strangers though.

Could I ask why you decided to convert to Catholicism? Most people don’t do it in a vaccum but rather through some personal contact of theirs and often that contact helps guide them or points them to those who can guide/assist them on their journey into the Church.

I wish you peace at the door but even more the Peace of Christ,
Mark
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I’m 24 and grew up in a small town where people still don’t have to lock their doors. I now live in a nice size city and the only family I have here is my husband. My guard is up. lol.

There were a few factors that made us convert. I always had questions that could be answered by my preachers, but they didn’t make sense to me. I grew up in a Church of Christ/Baptist household. My husband and I are two different races, while my preacher would have married us (he had a prior engagement that he already committed to) we couldn’t find another preacher to marry us. Totally upset both of us. So I definitely wanted to find a church that would accept both of us as a couple. My husband had a conversion of the heart while at boot camp in Great Lakes. We are both southerners and he went to boot camp in the winter:eek:. The only away time he got was Sundays for church services. He chose Mass because it was more quiet. He went to the Christmas midnight Mass and he said that he just felt at home. At peace. After we were married we started researching and it all made sense to me. I am the researcher and planner, he is the person who “feels” things. lol. It seems like it was meant to be. He was confirmed early, he was deploying. It was a small service, in a side chapel. Just us, our sponsors, and the priest. When the sign of peace came and DH and I just hugged, Father, who is 87 years old, told us, “you know it is ok for y’all to kiss at a Catholic Church,” with a little wink. It brought this peace to me that not only was this the one, true Church, but that they accept us for us, as a couple.
 
KendraDZ1902 said:
I’m 24 and grew up in a small town where people still don’t have to lock their doors. I now live in a nice size city and the only family I have here is my husband. My guard is up. lol.

There were a few factors that made us convert. I always had questions that could be answered by my preachers, but they didn’t make sense to me. I grew up in a Church of Christ/Baptist household. My husband and I are two different races, while my preacher would have married us (he had a prior engagement that he already committed to) we couldn’t find another preacher to marry us. Totally upset both of us. So I definitely wanted to find a church that would accept both of us as a couple. My husband had a conversion of the heart while at boot camp in Great Lakes. We are both southerners and he went to boot camp in the winter:eek:. The only away time he got was Sundays for church services. He chose Mass because it was more quiet. He went to the Christmas midnight Mass and he said that he just felt at home. At peace. After we were married we started researching and it all made sense to me. I am the researcher and planner, he is the person who “feels” things. lol. It seems like it was meant to be. He was confirmed early, he was deploying. It was a small service, in a side chapel. Just us, our sponsors, and the priest. When the sign of peace came and DH and I just hugged, Father, who is 87 years old, told us, “you know it is ok for y’all to kiss at a Catholic Church,” with a little wink. It brought this peace to me that not only was this the one, true Church, but that they accept us for us, as a couple.
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Thank you for sharing your story. I have never been to the south and it is just inconceivable to me that you couldn’t find a pastor to marry you in this day and age – of course in Oregon you could probably find someone who would marry you to your dog or your cat. I wish you and your husband all the best and I pray that you continue to study the faith and apply it in your life. It is not the belief that I find difficult but living what that belief entails–may you find it easier than I do.

The peace of Christ,
Mark
 
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