This Rock article on liturgical abuses

[sphilomena]

catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9901fea1.asp
THE TEN MOST COMMON LITURGICAL ABUSES (This Rock: January 1999)

I visited a site that had a link to this article. Wow! It covers a lot, most of which is argued about in these threads. The author cites the supporting documents which is always helpful. Some people seem never to accept the authority of the Church or her documents, but here is a lot of good information. I am bookmarking this article for future reference!

 

[IrishJoe]

that’s actually quite scary.

 

[benedictgal]

that’s actually quite scary.

What is even scarier is the sad reality that many of these things are happening today, and in multitudes.

 

[MH84]

This is a pretty good list, although I was wondering if there was a more comprehensive list. One that can be printed out and shown to the priest.

Because where I am originally from, it is common for the faithful to stand around the altar during the Consecration and beyond up to the reception of the Eucharist, not even kneeling. Often, I previously have never thought twice about doing this. Now I know its not right.

The priest often walks to the pews to shake hands during the sign of peace. Two things about this I would like to comment:
Why is this part necessay, in another parish this is eliminated altogether.
Technically, what is so bad about the priest doing this (greeting the faithful) in the pews. Is it because it is disrespectful to the Eucharist.

Ever since I have been on forums like this, I am really very irritated by the elimination of male references (point 1 in the article). There are certain sisters in the other parish that always replace “Him” with “God”, or eliminate “Him”. Its not the end of the world I know, but it is irritating, and other members aer none the wiser (or seem to be). The parish priest(s) have even been influenced a bit.

Finally (I need to be careful how I word this), do any of you guys (and gals) think that you may know some of the correct liturgical practices better than the parish priest? Or do you think the priests that make their own changes know the rules, and change them anyway for practicality or convenience or because they are bored. Especially, in parishes which aer maybe a bit isolated from the bishop. Honestly, I think that maybe some priests were not told the importance of following the rubrics of the Mass.

 

[puzzleannie]

the site quoted an old article, one that has been discussed on this forum before, but it is useful because it lists the Top Ten, and things that are genuine abuses, and gives the reasons why. It is not intended to be an exhaustive list, but it refers to sources that do give the rules and rubrics. It would be a good reference starting point to consult to compare with a practice at your or my church and asking ourselves, is this an abuse or just something I personally don’t like or have never seen.

 

[Phemie]

Finally (I need to be careful how I word this), do any of you guys (and gals) think that you may know some of the correct liturgical practices better than the parish priest? Or do you think the priests that make their own changes know the rules, and change them anyway for practicality or convenience or because they are bored. Especially, in parishes which aer maybe a bit isolated from the bishop. Honestly, I think that maybe some priests were not told the importance of following the rubrics of the Mass.

Good question. Having done some courses in liturgy with priests present they were the first to tell us how little instruction they got on this subject in the seminary.

Some honestly don’t care what the rubrics are and change things to the way they want them. Others just don’t really know what’s right.

Too bad they don’t all just do the red and say the black.

 

[benedictgal]

Too bad they don’t all just do the red and say the black.

That’s exactly what Daniel Cardinal DiNardo (our TEXAS cardinal ) said on Vatican Radio. In 2003, my bishop sent me to a liturgical conference where the revised GIRM was discussed. I filled up two yellow legal pads with notes and made copies for the then-director of liturgy (a priest). He was supposed to have reviewed all of this with the priests during an assembly for clergy. One of the priests told me that he didn’t do much of anything and the clergy were left with the mistaken impression that nothing really changed.

My concern was that, as a diocese, we hadn’t done enough to enforce the orginal NO GIRM. If we were lax then, how can the current GIRM fare any better?