This teacher married her girlfriend. Then she was fired by a Miami Catholic school

[robertmidwest]

Yes.

Any Catholic school teacher is bound to teach the faith. They are expected to uphold the tenenants of the faith. They sign a legally binding contract with a morality clause that they will do so. If they make a public statement against church teaching then they are teaching something different than what they agreed to and are in violation of that contract.

A teacher may believe that abortion should be legal. They can dissent. But marching in a parade to advocate for abortion becomes teaching something other than what was agreed to in their contract. What the teacher believe does not change in either situation. It’s a matter of what they are publicly professing.

 

[Imdaman]

I trust they will look into every employee’s personal life and fire those who are divorced and any who are living together outside of a Catholic marriage and whatever else employees do that is considered sin by the Catholic Church.

Yeah, yeah, here we go again. blah blah divorce, blah blah living together. As if this is the same thing. It isn’t just go back to all the other threads where this was talked about. Open your mind to your rather narrow view on the subject and try to understand what the Church teaches about scandal and Forgiveness.

I bet she can have her Job back if she asks forgiveness for the scandal she brought to the school. Do you know what that would entail. It is better for her that she moves on and tries to live her life.

 

[Imdaman]

Entwhistler:

To add to this, the teacher was pretty obvious that she had married her partner. The school didn’t have to go searching to find something.

So it sounds if something is hidden or covered up, that’s okay.

Well if it is not known how could one be disciplined. You make no sense!

 

[Imdaman]

This is a tempest in a teapot. Most of the people objecting aren't even connected with

the school, and i would think most of these aren’t Catholics.
The fact that some parents object simply shows that they don’t accept (or know) Catholic teaching about this. These people can be handled by meeting with them and gently explaining Catholic teaching. If they don’t accept it, this is more the parents’ problem than the school. If some of them withdraw their children, with all the publicity over why what has developed, likely enough other parents will want to put their children in the school.

A dozen parents protested a big whoop! It would be good for these parents to withdraw their children. It will make more room for those that cherish a proper Catholic education…

 

[CilladeRoma]

Lesbian experimentation is a real problem with teenagers today

It always has been!
It was a “problem” in the 80’s at my all-girls Catholic HS.
It was a “problem” in the 60’s at my mother’s all-girl Catholic HS.
It was a “problem” in the 40’s at my grandmother’s all Catholic girl school.

The only difference know is it is out in the open!

 

[pnewton]

I am not that old, nor do I share your experience. I have to call to question how much one can know about that which is not in the open. It is like claiming to see that which is unseen. But nonetheless, the openness is the biggest problem by far. Sin can always be forgiven with one exception. Sin cannot be forgiven that one refused to acknowledge as sin. This is what such at teacher should heed the word of Jesus.

If anyone causes one of these little ones–those who believe in me–to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!

Termination is less harsh than a millstone drowning.

I would add that my observations are not mine, but my wife’s, who has been a social worker in a high school for a couple of decades. It is she who has noticed the change in the last ten years or so.

 

[CilladeRoma]

I have to call to question how much one can know about that which is not in the open.

It is our lived experience. I would imagine the same types of things happened at all boy schools too.
Homosexuality has been around forever and young people have been experimenting sexually forever.
It’s just now, in 2018, it is almost a badge of honor to talk about your sexual exploits.

 

[pnewton]

pnewton:

I have to call to question how much one can know about that which is not in the open.

It is our lived experience. I would imagine the same types of things happened at all boy schools too.
Homosexuality has been around forever and young people have been experimenting sexually forever.
It’s just now, in 2018, it is almost a badge of honor to talk about your sexual exploits.

I see. Yes, that would make for a different experience than in the public school.

 

[CilladeRoma]

Yeah, yeah, here we go again. blah blah divorce, blah blah living together. As if this is the same thing

Divorce and remarriage without an annulment and living together without benefit of marriage are just as sinful as living in a gay relationship. To say it is not is exactly the problem with this kind of stuff. If we are going to hold people up to moral clauses about marriage, we better include everyone.

 

[pnewton]

I think above someone gave an example where this standard was upheld with another teacher, but yes, you are correct. The standard needs to be consistent, and needs to include more than sexual sin. Just remember though, that the biggest problem is the unrepentant nature of the sin. That will always at least be a mitigating circumstance.

 

[Raxus]

So it sounds if something is hidden or covered up, that’s okay.

This statement is remarkably obtuse. The woman in question went publicly against her Catholic faith. I’m pretty sure that means she shouldn’t be teaching in a Catholic institution, by any logical stretch of the imagination.

 

[FollowChrist34]

I have wondered this too. It is odd. Not just schools but the Church itself. It is just a magnet. It is either like you say about infiltrating the enemy or some sort of genuine search for redemption maybe - probably a mixture of both. I think especially these days the outright infiltrate the enemy folks are more common though. It is conscious, assertive, if not really subject to much self-examination on this slight contradiction - gay sexuality I mean. Very bizarre.

 

[Bataar]

Let’s say a man is a member of P.E.T.A. His job is to go to different schools and teach kids about P.E.T.A. and what they believe about animals. This man makes friends with another man and after a few years, the other man talks the P.E.T.A. man into going deer hunting. The P.E.T.A. shoots a large buck and gets his picture taken posing with it. Later on, his bosses see the picture and determine that a man who went hunting and shot a deer is not the kind of person they want on staff to teach kids about P.E.T.A. and animals so they fire him.

Would that cause just as much outrage? Why or why not?

 

[FollowChrist34]

Furthermore a lot of these folks are shooting deer, to continue your metaphor, as a completely legitimate (affirming) part of being in PETA. Think enlightened PETA, the new improved version. Reinterpreted to meet the individual where he/she is at, and plans to remain.