Thought i had on Q

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can Q a sayings collection of Jesus be the series of oracles or logia that Matthew wrote in hebrew? There are many early church fathers who claim that Matthew wrote in hebrew and when the early church or whoever composed the gospel of matthew used marks gospel as a basic outline and matthews sayings and vo la produced the gospel of matthew? Henceforth thats why matthew is credited to be the author
 
can Q a sayings collection of Jesus be the series of oracles or logia that Matthew wrote in hebrew? There are many early church fathers who claim that Matthew wrote in hebrew and when the early church or whoever composed the gospel of matthew used marks gospel as a basic outline and matthews sayings and vo la produced the gospel of matthew? Henceforth thats why matthew is credited to be the author
There is no Q.
It is baseless speculation plucked out of the air.
 
can Q a sayings collection of Jesus be the series of oracles or logia that Matthew wrote in hebrew? There are many early church fathers who claim that Matthew wrote in hebrew and when the early church or whoever composed the gospel of matthew used marks gospel as a basic outline and matthews sayings and vo la produced the gospel of matthew? Henceforth thats why matthew is credited to be the author
Well, that was how the prototype of the Q theory went: the original idea was that the Hebrew Logia attributed to Matthew was the source for all three Synoptic gospels. The fact that Q is still sometimes called the LogienquelleLogia-source’ in German today is a remnant of this.
 
There is no Q.
It is baseless speculation plucked out of the air.
For decades after “Q” was hypothesized, detractors of “Q” claimed there was no such sevidence as a “sayings gospel”. That was dispelled after Nag Hamaddi Library was discovered…the “Gospel of Thomas” IS such a “gospel”. It is not a narrative gospel at all…but a group of 114 sayings of Jesus, many of them similar and with parallels in the synoptics.

"Q’ is a hypothesis put forth by biblical scholars that believed the first writings were a volume of the sayings of Jesus…later used by the writers of the synoptics in narrative form.
 
can Q a sayings collection of Jesus be the series of oracles or logia that Matthew wrote in hebrew? There are many early church fathers who claim that Matthew wrote in hebrew and when the early church or whoever composed the gospel of matthew used marks gospel as a basic outline and matthews sayings and vo la produced the gospel of matthew? Henceforth thats why matthew is credited to be the author
This is a view that makes sense to me. However, I’m not an NT specialist, and NT specialists don’t seem to think much of it. I’ve never quite understood why.

Edwin
 
This is a view that makes sense to me. However, I’m not an NT specialist, and NT specialists don’t seem to think much of it. I’ve never quite understood why.

Edwin
Because this view was once how the idea went before the the modern two-source theory (essentially an amalgamation of two independent theories: Markan priority and a hypothetical written source) was formulated. One can say that this is a ‘rejected’ or ‘superseded’ hypothesis though I don’t see why one could revive it.
 
For decades after “Q” was hypothesized, detractors of “Q” claimed there was no such sevidence as a “sayings gospel”. That was dispelled after Nag Hamaddi Library was discovered…the “Gospel of Thomas” IS such a “gospel”. It is not a narrative gospel at all…but a group of 114 sayings of Jesus, many of them similar and with parallels in the synoptics.

"Q’ is a hypothesis put forth by biblical scholars that believed the first writings were a volume of the sayings of Jesus…later used by the writers of the synoptics in narrative form.
The main problem, however, is this: while the common formulation is that the Logienquelle (aka Q) is, as the name implies, a ‘sayings gospel’, Mark Goodacre is of theopinion that the double tradition material (aka Q material) in Matthew and Luke, as usually reconstructed, actually has - at least in its first third - a narrative sequence “with a chronological, geographical, cause-and-effect progression,” unlike Thomas, which is a collection of sayings attributed to Jesus with no context whatsoever (not unlike a testimonia). He goes into depth with some depth in his book The Case Against Q (Chapter 09:* Narrative Sequence in a Sayings Gospel? Reflections on a Contrast between Thomas and Q*).
 
For decades after “Q” was hypothesized, detractors of “Q” claimed there was no such sevidence as a “sayings gospel”. That was dispelled after Nag Hamaddi Library was discovered…the “Gospel of Thomas” IS such a “gospel”. It is not a narrative gospel at all…but a group of 114 sayings of Jesus, many of them similar and with parallels in the synoptics.

"Q’ is a hypothesis put forth by biblical scholars that believed the first writings were a volume of the sayings of Jesus…later used by the writers of the synoptics in narrative form.
churchinhistory.org/pages/booklets/authors-gospels-1.htm
 
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