Thoughts on "Live Earth"

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I’m really disappointed in everyone’s reactions to Live Earth. I had the concert on almost all day Saturday as I went about my business around the house, and watched it later with some friends since it was too hot to do anything but lay around complaining about the heat. I think it was a huge success and I felt a sense of hope at seeing so many people working to save our earth.

I’m having a hard time understanding why Christians seem to fluff off global warming. For me, nothing makes me feel closer to God then enjoying the seasons we have in my state or sitting on the back porch. In the day there are many plants, the songs of birds, and the wide variety of inscect life, all things HE created. At night, I love to sit up and look at the stars in the sky and realize just how amazing His Creation truly is. And I want my children and my grandchildern to be able to be in awe of His Creation too.

The two most common Christian fluff offs about global warming seem to be that we were told by God to “subdue and conquer” the earth. (He did not say “rape and pillage” would be my response) or that the Bible clearly states how the end times will come about. (And to that I say…if we know not the hour or the day, should we possibly make future generations suffer from our ignorance?) We believe God created the earth…so why wouldn’t we want to take care of His Creation?

Personally, for me, Live Earth has made me come up with a few small ways that I can afford with my budget to help the earth: As our lightbulbs burn out, they will be replaced by florescents. No more normal light bulbs! And I’m going to purchase a canvas bag from our library to tote our books instead of the plastic bags they give out, and hopefully acquire a half dozen or so reuseable canvas shopping bags. Once we get both of those things done as budget allows…well…I’ll find something else to do then!

And btw, Live Earth wasn’t trying to raise money, they were trying to raise awareness and get people to make changes, no matter how small, in their lives. With all the technology we have at our hands, it’s absurd that we can’t keep our standard of living AND be green.

Comments? This is the first time I’ve really ranted here! I’d really love to see a good debate on “Green” Christians. Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks the earth is a gift from our Heavenly Father?
 
Here’s what several artists had to say about the foolishness that was Live Earth. I’ll lift the quotes from one band in particular:
Rock group Arctic Monkeys have become the latest music industry stars to question whether the performers taking part in Live Earth on Saturday are suitable climate change activists.
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“It’s a bit patronising for us 21 year olds to try to start to change the world,” said Arctic Monkeys drummer Matt Helders, explaining why the group is not on the bill at any of Al Gore’s charity concerts.
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“Especially when we’re using enough power for 10 houses just for (stage) lighting. It’d be a bit hypocritical,” he told AFP in an interview before a concert in Paris.
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Bass player Nick O’Malley chimes in: “And we’re always jetting off on aeroplanes!”
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Large parts of the band’s hometown of Sheffield were flooded at the end of last month after a deluge of mid-summer rain that some blamed on global warming. Two people were killed.
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But the band wonder why anyone would be interested in the opinion of rock stars on a complex scientific issue like climate change.
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“Someone asked us to give a quote about what was happening in Sheffield and it’s like ‘who cares what we think about what’s happening’?” added Helders.
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"There’s more important people who can have an opinion. Why does it make us have an opinion because we’re in a band?"
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I might have to go buy an Arctic Monkeys CD just for that last quote.
 
RhyannaRose said:
Comments? This is the first time I’ve really ranted here! I’d really love to see a good debate on “Green” Christians. Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks the earth is a gift from our Heavenly Father?
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Nice to meet you, Rhyanna!

You’ll find several discussions on this topic going on in the Secular News forum, and discussions as to what we ought to do as Catholics toward the environment could fit in the Social Justice forum.

And I submit that you probably felt as you do about “living green” before the concert, and not because of it.
 
“Celebrities - is there anything they don’t know?”
Homer Simpson

“It’s not easy being green.”
Kermit

“You are getting warmer…warmer…”
Albert Arnold Gore Jr.

“Let us fall into the hands of the LORD and not into the hands of men, For equal to his majesty is the mercy that he shows.” Sirach 2:18

Talk to me about global warming in January. The annual July debate grows tedious.
 
I think it was a huge success and I felt a sense of hope at seeing so many people working to save our earth.
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Ratings for this ego festival were abysmal around the world. Most folks are not interested in being lectured by Melissa Etheridge, or Naomi Campbell or Jennifer Garner. Celebrities (and that includes Gore) live in luxury that far exceeds what most Americans can imagine and use more of the “earths” resources than the entire state of Kentucky. I believe most Americans can see hypocrisy when it is lecturing them from a TV screen.
I’m having a hard time understanding why Christians seem to fluff off global warming. For me, nothing makes me feel closer to God then enjoying the seasons we have in my state or sitting on the back porch. In the day there are many plants, the songs of birds, and the wide variety of inscect life, all things HE created. At night, I love to sit up and look at the stars in the sky and realize just how amazing His Creation truly is. And I want my children and my grandchildern to be able to be in awe of His Creation too.
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I think that’s a gross generalization. “Christians” is a pretty broad term and meaningless when used in this context. I am certain there are Christians who are concerned but most have not adopted the global warming political agenda as their new god. This is where I part company with the “movement”. They have more overzealous arrogance than any pro-life or pro-family or religious movement that I can think of. You don’t see a line-up or media covereage like this for any Christian causes, do you? Yet we are called fanatics.

I feel closest to God when I am with Him in the Eucharist. I appreciate the gift He has given to us on the earth but I also respect that He is in control - not man. I do not believe that man is powerful enough to “destroy” the planet and wipe out human civilization. I’m also old enough to remember the new “ice age” threat of the 70’s, where the media lectured Americans in the same way about how humans were going to destroy the earth. Of the issue itself, I am skeptical. Of those involved, I am downright hostile.
Personally, for me, Live Earth has made me come up with a few small ways that I can afford with my budget to help the earth: As our lightbulbs burn out, they will be replaced by florescents. No more normal light bulbs! And I’m going to purchase a canvas bag from our library to tote our books instead of the plastic bags they give out, and hopefully acquire a half dozen or so reuseable canvas shopping bags. Once we get both of those things done as budget allows…well…I’ll find something else to do then!
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That’s great but you should ask yourself why do the “clergy” of the global warming denomination refuse to entertain the clear answer of nuclear power. It’s eco-friendly, it’s cheap, it’s all ready to go, it’s being used in other countries. When they are willing to talk about that, I might be willing to listen.
And btw, Live Earth wasn’t trying to raise money, they were trying to raise awareness and get people to make changes, no matter how small, in their lives
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Then the concerts should have been free. Why were tickets as much as $350.00?
With all the technology we have at our hands, it’s absurd that we can’t keep our standard of living AND be green
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We can. Nuclear Power.
 
Old Fred: Well, lads, what do you think?
George: I think that…
Old Fred: Remember, there’ll be rough seas ahead! What do you think?
Paul: Well, um…
Old Fred: Pounding overwhelming waves! What do you think of that, eh?
John: Well, I think that…
Ringo: As a matter of fact, I think that…
George, Paul, John, Ringo: I think…
Old Fred: Well?

George, Paul, John, Ringo: I’ve forgotten. John: If I could come in, here, I think the theory put forward by Einstein…
Paul: singing] Any old Ein, any old Ein, any-any-any old Ein…
John: Could well be applied here. The people in the ball are obviously extensions of our own personalities, suspended, as it were, in time, frozen in space…
George: Uh, John…
John: …According to the now-famous theory of relativity…
George: John…
John: Which, briefly explained…
George: John!
John: Is simply a matter of taking two eggs…
George: JOHN!
John: Beating lightly, and adding a little salt and pepper to taste…
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schatzi said:
“Celebrities - is there anything they don’t know?”
Homer Simpson

“It’s not easy being green.”
Kermit

“You are getting warmer…warmer…”
Albert Arnold Gore Jr.

“Let us fall into the hands of the LORD and not into the hands of men, For equal to his majesty is the mercy that he shows.” Sirach 2:18

Talk to me about global warming in January. The annual July debate grows tedious.
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It’s amazing how we always hear about global warming in July and August but never a word in December, January, and February when the wind chill is -20.
 
blessedtoo said:
Ratings for this ego festival were abysmal around the world. Most folks are not interested in being lectured by Melissa Etheridge, or Naomi Campbell or Jennifer Garner. Celebrities (and that includes Gore) live in luxury that far exceeds what most Americans can imagine and use more of the “earths” resources than the entire state of Kentucky. I believe most Americans can see hypocrisy when it is lecturing them from a TV screen.

I think that’s a gross generalization. “Christians” is a pretty broad term and meaningless when used in this context. I am certain there are Christians who are concerned but most have not adopted the global warming political agenda as their new god. This is where I part company with the “movement”. They have more overzealous arrogance than any pro-life or pro-family or religious movement that I can think of. You don’t see a line-up or media covereage like this for any Christian causes, do you? Yet we are called fanatics.

I feel closest to God when I am with Him in the Eucharist. I appreciate the gift He has given to us on the earth but I also respect that He is in control - not man. I do not believe that man is powerful enough to “destroy” the planet and wipe out human civilization. I’m also old enough to remember the new “ice age” threat of the 70’s, where the media lectured Americans in the same way about how humans were going to destroy the earth. Of the issue itself, I am skeptical. Of those involved, I am downright hostile.

That’s great but you should ask yourself why do the “clergy” of the global warming denomination refuse to entertain the clear answer of nuclear power. It’s eco-friendly, it’s cheap, it’s all ready to go, it’s being used in other countries. When they are willing to talk about that, I might be willing to listen.

Then the concerts should have been free. Why were tickets as much as $350.00?

We can. Nuclear Power.
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Good post. Your points expressed are pretty much how I feel about the latest pet project from the “enlightened”:rolleyes: crowd.
 
Where did all the money that they " weren’t trying to raise" go?
 
Well, I do agree that the global warming crisis should not become a religous movement. And I do get a little tired of the richest people expecting us not-rich people to do everything to make the changes needed. If manufacturers would offer green prodcuts at a reasonable price then people will buy. But people are not likely to choose a green solution when it’s notably more expensive then the non-green option.

I might have come across as a little grouchy in my first post, but I do feel strongly about nature and for me it holds a sort of sacredness as the place that shows God’s Creation in such dramatic visual beauty. I don’t have children yet, but when I do someday I want them to be able to look up at millions of stars in the night sky with awe or to feel their hearts skip a beat when you come across a deer in a forest. shrugs But I will admit I am young (25) and up until last Christmas (2005) the path of Christianity was not always the one I walked all the time.

BlessedToo, I personally am quite against Nuclear power. Why can’t we find a renewable energy source that doesn’t have the huge risk associated with it’s production? In a word: Chernobyle.
 
RhyannaRose said:
BlessedToo, I personally am quite against Nuclear power. Why can’t we find a renewable energy source that doesn’t have the huge risk associated with it’s production? In a word: Chernobyle.
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Time to get educated!
At Three Mile Island in 1979, the simple truth is that public health was not endangered. Despite a series of mistakes which seriously damaged the reactor, the only outside effect was an inconsequential release of radiation–negligible when compared to natural radiation in the atmosphere. The citizens of the Three Mile Island area would have received more radiation by taking a flight from New York to Miami or standing for a few minutes amid the granite of Grand Central Station. The protective barriers in the reactor’s design worked. By contrast, the accident at Chernobyl in 1986 was a tragedy with serious human and environmental consequences. Chernobyl was a classic product of the Soviet era. A gargantuan reactor lacked the safety technology, the procedures and the protective barriers considered normal elsewhere in the world. The fire led to a massive release of radiation through the open roof of the reactor. More than two dozen firemen died from direct radiation exposure.
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uic.com.au/NuclearGreen-Ritch.htm
The severity of Chernobyl was a function of a poor reactor design, and inadequate training of plant personnel. In the United States, oversight by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission provides the standards for reactor design and plant operation, which has contributed to our excellent nuclear power plant safety record. The new generation of nuclear power plant designs, already being built internationally, feature passive safety systems, which simply shut the plant down if there is an operator error or equipment failure.
By comparison, during 2006, more than 5,000 miners died in China, during the production of the more than 1 billion tons of coal that power its economy. The health of the public in China’s cities is also endangered, by the pollution caused by the burning of fossil fuels.
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larouchepub.com/other/2007/3405_nuclear_myths.html
This is just a start!
 
I think a big reason that Christians might not seem to be into the green movement yet is that they are putting their efforts into getting people to stop murdering human babies first. A lot of these celebrities think its more important to save a tree than to save a human baby.

At this rate, we won’t need a planet, we’re killing ourselves off.

We can all do things to ease up on using the earth’s resources that are easy, sure. But as far as concerts, movements, activism, I’m saving my voice, time and energy for the human race.
 
blessedtoo said:
Awesome! Feel free to educate us!
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Well I haven’t actually started (Im an incoming freshman)…so I really don’t think I could tell you anything overly exciting:shrug: . I just kind of picked that major because of all the cool things I found out you could do with it (and you can do alot more than build power plants!).😊 😛 .

Anyways…I’m really off topic now:o .
 
agapewolf said:
I think a big reason that Christians might not seem to be into the green movement yet is that they are putting their efforts into getting people to stop murdering human babies first. A lot of these celebrities think its more important to save a tree than to save a human baby.

At this rate, we won’t need a planet, we’re killing ourselves off.

We can all do things to ease up on using the earth’s resources that are easy, sure. But as far as concerts, movements, activism, I’m saving my voice, time and energy for the human race.
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Brilliant! I could not agree more!
 
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