Thoughts Pre-Marriage

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I’d really appreciate some words of wisdom from those of you who are married.

I have been getting to know the most amazing and lovely man. We had been friends, through our shared interests, for three years when he said he’d like to start dating. At first, I was extremely afraid. Actually ‘afraid’ isn’t the right word, but it’s the closest I can come up with! You see, until then, the concept of ‘love’ for me was confused, because I’d had a few too many false starts with men who weren’t really interested in me; or realised after a couple of dates that I really did mean it when I said I was a practicing Catholic and I got used to that almost gambler-like feeling of lots of let-downs and disappointments and then…suddenly…that big rush of ardrenaline when he actually rang.

After 4 months of just being friends and spending more time together, I began to see that this man was absolutely sincere about the way he felt for me and did not just see me as a quick fling. I realised how much we had in common and how many values we share (we are both Catholics) I was absolutely up front about my beliefs and he didn’t run away. He is always ready to help and to listen and he shows his love in all the practical things he does for me about the house and the thought he puts into planning days out.

On New Years Eve, he proposed to me and I accepted. That’s when the trouble began. Since then, I keep having what I can only describe as attacks of blind panic. I’ve never felt swept off my feet by him, or infatuated. The best way I can describe how I feel is that being with him gives me a sense of belonging and security and takes the rough edges off life. He always behaves with dignity and kindness and he makes me want to do likewise.

Out of respect for one another, we do not place one another in situations of temptation we know we would be unable to handle. The problem for me, as a woman who is a veteran at keeping her emotions in check, is that I have just about convinced myself now that there is no ‘spark’ at all.

I get on really well with his family and he does with mine too. I can confidently say that I am 100% myself in his company and never feel the need to put on a front.

So why the panic? Part of me feels that it’s just the enormity of the challenge of marriage. How can I enter into such a serious contract if I am not 100% sure I am doing the right thing by this wonderful man? If I feel doubt - then it must mean I don’t feel 100% committed - right? Or is it because I care about him so much, I am too busy disecting all the whys and wherefores to relax and enjoy the feeling of being with someone who I feel so comfortable with?

This feels like make or break to me. I have never met anyone who accepts me so freely and without judgement and who I feel so comfortable with and connected to. I don’t understand why I can’t look at wedding magazines and rings without feeling physically sick! I can’t even bring myself to go shopping for an engagement ring because I feel guilty at the thought of him spending money on a ring like that, when I can’t feel anything right now but churning guts!

I have prayed throughout our courtship and I still pray now. I never pray for a pre-determined outcome: I just say “Lord, please let me have the courage and grace to do what it right by X and by You” Until the actual proposal, I was fine.

Some of this may be because I am 41 and I have never had a significant other before. I have been in love (well, infatuated) and I gave up the man who I thought was the love of my life last year, because he had been married before and although technically, an annulment may have been possible, I knew his beliefs were so different from mine that I maintained a chaste but close friendship and then we let one another go. Let no one say this was easy. It was one of the most painful experiences in my life. I would have walked through fire for that man, but ultimately, I could not condemn both of us to Hell because of infatuation and lust.

So, where do I go from here? Happily married friends say keep going, keep talking (we have discussed how I feel and he says he wants to hang in there and do all he can to help me) and don’t knock a slow-burner, because infatuation and passion fade, but true friendship and respect is what keeps a marriage going. Others say bale out now - why prolong things if you have such serious doubts.

It feels like climbing up a rock face - fun until you look down at how far you’ve come and then there is the urge to abseil gracefully back down, rather than slip and land with a big bump :o

Thanks for reading x
 
I’m not married, but he sounds like a great, loving guy who lives the faith. Rare to find. I wouldn’t bail without grave concerns and I believe your nerves are natural. It sounds like you don’t have concerns with the guy so much as with yourself and how you are feeling. You possibly are just over thinking things. Keep praying and working on looking at the good you share with this man, and the rewards that a marriage with him can bring. Feelings come and go. Love is a choice.
 
On New Years Eve, he proposed to me and I accepted. That’s when the trouble began. Since then, I keep having what I can only describe as attacks of blind panic. I’ve never felt swept off my feet by him, or infatuated. The best way I can describe how I feel is that being with him gives me a sense of belonging and security and takes the rough edges off life. He always behaves with dignity and kindness and he makes me want to do likewise.
Quick! Marry him! Tomorrow! Lifetime of happiness comes and offers itself to you and you want to hold out for a cheap romance novel?

Sweetie, trust me. That “swept off your feet” thing is brain chemistry. It goes away. So do those marriages.

The only question is: do you feel called to be married? Is marriage something you can see as a vocation, making a home, raising children.

Unless you don’t treat him well, you don’t put him first, you don’t love him. Have you ever wanted to make him a nice dinner just because you wanted to please him? That’s love.
 
Im not married but in my 40’s

Can I just say from what I have read about I should say what you are experiencing sounds like, perfectly normal set of emotions premarriage. It about that making the commitment for real and I think most people find it scarey and even walk away at times because it feels too scarey. Not me, because I haven’t met anyone ever, being relatively shy and just not interested either way, but I would encourage you just to take each day, day by day and enjoy what you have. Have you set a wedding date yet and is that the real cause, pre marriage as you say. But also if you are both sincere, this is where I find it hard because I would suggest also talking to your priest too, because for us alot of Anglican Priests are married and understand from their own experience how it was for them they really understand the process but it doesn’t totally matter that the priest hasn’t experienced it in some way because some priests are good at listening and pick out the right words and help you question them that bit more Priests haven’t been married they can’t draw upon their own life experience to help you through, but that don’t mean to say they cannot help you. He may well be able to share, just how normal it is, what you’re experiencing.
But it sounds perfectly normal and people would question you more, if you weren’t having questions etc. I would definately continue and with guidence from a priest question your motives but with strict guidence and not on your own as you may only answer what you want to answer and with a priest you be able to explore the whole picture and determine if marriage is for you as with what the church offers anyway I believe ?
 
That “swept off your feet” thing is brain chemistry. It goes away. So do those marriages.
Have to agree with you 100% here (and I’m a guy :)). It’s why you hear about people that “fell out of love” 6 months to maybe a couple years in their marriage and then want a divorce. Long term bonds are those that are more likely to involve a deep sense of security and contentment.

Don’t get me wrong; that initial adrenalin rush can be great and allow someone to get to a more stable bond, but if you never have the feeling of security and contentment I’m not sure how a relationship can last.

My wife and I are long past the high electricity part of our relationship and some times I think wouldn’t it be exciting if we could have that excitement again everyday, but then I remember the turmoil that often came from it. I’d rather a cruise down a smooth highway rather than an exhilarating trip down a road filled with pot holes that always feels like a crash is waiting around the next corner.
 
No one is ever 100% certain about anything-- which job to take, marriage, having children, buying a house… so no, the fact that you are not 100% certain is not a sign of a problem. It is a sign that you are human.

Love is an act of the will.
 
I’m not married, but from a life decisions standpoint, I’ve always found the following helpful to do when I’m pretty sure God wants me to do something, but not sure enough to dispel doubts. Just pray a ton (maybe a novena) to him, telling God to inteviene stop it now if it’s not his will, because you are pretty sure it is, so unless you hear otherwise, you will assume it is his will.

This has not only given me peace with decisions, but has lead me in other directions when I needed to.

Hope that makes sense.
 
Quick! Marry him! Tomorrow! Lifetime of happiness comes and offers itself to you and you want to hold out for a cheap romance novel?

Sweetie, trust me. That “swept off your feet” thing is brain chemistry. It goes away. So do those marriages.

The only question is: do you feel called to be married? Is marriage something you can see as a vocation, making a home, raising children.

Unless you don’t treat him well, you don’t put him first, you don’t love him. Have you ever wanted to make him a nice dinner just because you wanted to please him? That’s love.
THIS! OP, it’s more important to feel RESPECT for your future spouse and TRUST, than any movie-worthy fireworks. Fireworks aren’t what get you through the tough times. COMMITMENT IS!

You wrote this: * He is always ready to help and to listen and he shows his love in all the practical things he does for me about the house and the thought he puts into planning days out.
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He loves you! He takes care of you! He values you! 👍

And this: *I get on really well with his family and he does with mine too. I can confidently say that I am 100% myself in his company and never feel the need to put on a front.
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Both of these are MONUMENTAL in a relationship! Especially getting along with each other’s families! You not only marry the person, you marry their entire family, and it is my considered opinion that a lot of marriages don’t make it because of bad extended family chemistry, or other general family insanity (addictions, alcoholism, mental illness, etc.).

You can BE YOURSELF with this man! No false masks, no image-preserving, no fear of being derided or shunned for who you are! Oh my gosh, that’s huge, girl!

Take your brain out, wash out all of the media images of what marriage is supposed to be, and hang it out in the sunlight of truth. What you need is less of what Hollywood portrays (the stars of the movies are frequently on their 3rd, 4th, or 5th marriage!) and more of what will truly last.

You’re also both CATHOLIC!!! And CHASTE!!! Oh, my dear, you have a treasure here!!!

(And this won’t be the only heart-stopping, white-knuckle, don’t-have-enough-information decision you will ever make in your life. Wait until you decide to have kids.)

😉
 
Well here’s the thing… when and if you’re married, you should be (and will be) so close to your spouse that they are actually an extension of yourself. Thus, YOU MUST SHARE EVERYTHING with them, tell him how you feel. If he is “the one” and if he truly feels the kind of self-sacrificial love required of true Catholic marriage, then he will understand your feelings… and maybe he even senses how you feel right now. What I’m trying to say is this: there are no secrets between people in love. My wife and I are truly best friends; that’s why we don’t get why people have to have “alone time”. Friendships outside of your spouse can be very good and supportive, but I have also seen them become very dangerous when the friends become a stronger sense of trust than your spouse, or when you share more things with them than you do your spouse. Again, my point is that marriage is so synergistic that I think you have to know that you’ll be able to spend your whole life with that person. BUT nobody knows that right before marriage; even novices preparing to take their final vows in the convent or seminarians preparing for ordination… they all have their doubts cause God doesn’t come down and tell you straight to your face. But there you have it, the most important factor in the whole shebang: God. Can you comfortably kneel down and pray with this man? can you share your deepest feelings and thought? can you share these feelings with your fiance?
 
🙂 Thanks everyone. I’ve been in absolute turmoil again today and I have no idea why. I know that the whole ‘heart and flowers’ thing is just a chemical reaction in the brain and that the best, most solid marriages are built on trust and respect.

I think the scary part is that I do have a real choice. Nobody is forcing me one way of the other and everything this man is offering is what I would want in a marriage. There are no red flags, to give me that fall-back of saying, “oh yeah - with hindsight, the fact that he drank 25 beers a night and still sucked his thumb and my parents hated him…”

In a way it reminds me of the guide to prayer I am reading at the moment, in that God does not force us to prayer, but leaves it up to us.
 
🙂 Thanks everyone. I’ve been in absolute turmoil again today and I have no idea why. I know that the whole ‘heart and flowers’ thing is just a chemical reaction in the brain and that the best, most solid marriages are built on trust and respect.

I think the scary part is that I do have a real choice. Nobody is forcing me one way of the other and everything this man is offering is what I would want in a marriage. There are no red flags, to give me that fall-back of saying, “oh yeah - with hindsight, the fact that he drank 25 beers a night and still sucked his thumb and my parents hated him…”

In a way it reminds me of the guide to prayer I am reading at the moment, in that God does not force us to prayer, but leaves it up to us.
Is it that “Ohmygosh, it’s time to take the NEXT STEP and grow up fully!” kind of anxiety?? Everyone feels that, even the people who have been swept off their feet! Oh, and also, the men who really work hard at being sooooo charming and romantic often stop every crumb of that once they are married. They achieved their goal and “got you,” so why put out any more effort?

Go talk to your mother and father. Bet they will say, “Dear Daughter, you can do this!!!”
 
🙂 Thanks everyone. I’ve been in absolute turmoil again today and I have no idea why. I know that the whole ‘heart and flowers’ thing is just a chemical reaction in the brain and that the best, most solid marriages are built on trust and respect.

I think the scary part is that I do have a real choice. Nobody is forcing me one way of the other and everything this man is offering is what I would want in a marriage. There are no red flags, to give me that fall-back of saying, “oh yeah - with hindsight, the fact that he drank 25 beers a night and still sucked his thumb and my parents hated him…”

In a way it reminds me of the guide to prayer I am reading at the moment, in that God does not force us to prayer, but leaves it up to us.
You have to go through pre-Cana classes before you can marry. So, you can stop panicking because you really cannot be married for a while. Like a year, most likely. You can also stop panicking because you* can* change your mind. You aren’t married yet. You can also, in your pre-Cana classes, expect that if there are red flags, the priest or whoever is running them is going to say something.

So, I have a question. Is there any reason for you to think he is just faking his wonderfulness? That is: are you wealthy and he is poor? Is there something you think he wants from you beyond becoming his wife? His “becoming a wife” a scary phrase for you?

Is it the idea you are in many ways about to give up who you are to become someone new? Do you fear your identity and independence will be lost?

Thing is, as long as all you have is anxiety, you cannot think very well. So, stop being scared, nothing is happening right away, and start to delve into what the real scary part is. Because what I’m hearing you say is that you fear losing control of your life and that if it doesn’t work out, you’ll be trapped because you have no excuses to leave.
 
🙂 We can talk about everything, including my present thoughts. He’s very understanding and says although he knows what he wants, I have to be sure about what I want too. We’re just taking it slowly for now and we have promised that if we do break up, we will have done so only after much soul-searching and with no ill-feeling because we would be doing so out of respect for one another and not because of any argument or lack of trust.

It’s been said recently on another thread (about getting back with ex-partners) but the fact we have never had sex is definitely what enables us to think this way: clearly and respectfully.

My parents are being very supportive. They have advised me to pray and put the matter entirely in the hands of the Holy Spirit. They both like him very much, but they also don’t believe doubts should be shut away.

After our last talk, I feel this will have a happy ending - whichever way it goes 🙂
 
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