Thoughts

[Joannm]

I suspect, that with minor exception, the clamor for the TLM will die off with the generations born before 1960, although the only clamor I have ever personally experienced is here at CAF.

Same here. I have not heard of a great clamoring in our diocese fot the Latin Mass. I know a few priests who are learning it but for the most part not too many are asking for it. They even had to cancel one location becase they didn’t have enough people attending.

 

[the_phoenix]

Hey! They feature music from The Irish Rovers on the front page … I LOVE it !!!

:irish1: :kissme: :irish2: :bounce: :irish3: :shamrock2:

~~ the Irish phoenix

 

[Volodymyr_988]

In an assembly of faithful for which I have nothing in common with liturgically. The Orthodox do have a valid Eucharist according to Rome. I’m not going to Worship God with guitars and clapping. I will worship him with chant, smells and bells fit for the king of glory. Like they have done for thousands of years before V2. Like they did in the Middle Ages, and in the days of the Emperor. The same Mass and Liturgies that St Benedict, St Dominic, St Francis, St Photius, and St Ephrem the Syrian in the East would have attended. Archbishop Bugnini and V2 took away what was sacred and watered it down considerably.

Your profile says Orthodox. So why do you care either way about the OF or the EF?

 

[Volodymyr_988]

But the young now yearn for the TLM!. So it will live on.

Who are they? I’ve yet to meet one.

 

[I_Believe]

Latinized!.

There we have it.

 

[Cat]

But the young now yearn for the TLM!. So it will live on.

I think that history makes it obvious that the young yearn for something different than what they are already experiencing.

This is what encourages young people to grow up–if they didn’t want something different, they would be content to stay home with their parents forever.

A certain U.S. Presidential candidate is using this “desire for something different” to capture the attention and votes of the young. This candidate isn’t explaining exactly what his/her ideas for change are, but only that under his/her Presidency, things will definitely be different.

But as the young become old, they realize that “something different” is not necessarily what they truly yearn for. They learn that “something different” eventually becomes the “same old same old” as it is practiced regularly. And they learn that something that appealed to them while they were young because it was “different” is not necessarily satisfying once they become older.

 

[Brennan_Doherty]

I suspect, that with minor exception, the clamor for the TLM will die off with the generations born before 1960, although the only clamor I have ever personally experienced is here at CAF.

No, it won’t. While some on this forum may not have personally met those who clamor for the TLM, there have been a number of articles in the press about new TLM’s cropping up in a number of places and where a number of the attendees are young. It won’t die out because the desire for beauty, the sacred, and reverence won’t die out (although it can be suppressed).

 

[Brennan_Doherty]

I think that history makes it obvious that the young yearn for something different than what they are already experiencing.

This is what encourages young people to grow up–if they didn’t want something different, they would be content to stay home with their parents forever.

A certain U.S. Presidential candidate is using this “desire for something different” to capture the attention and votes of the young. This candidate isn’t explaining exactly what his/her ideas for change are, but only that under his/her Presidency, things will definitely be different.

But as the young become old, they realize that “something different” is not necessarily what they truly yearn for. They learn that “something different” eventually becomes the “same old same old” as it is practiced regularly. And they learn that something that appealed to them while they were young because it was “different” is not necessarily satisfying once they become older.

I don’t think any of the laity, young or otherwise, were clamoring for an all vernacular Mass or any of the other changes which were done in the 60’s. Nor do I think there is any young person, who has discovered the TLM, that will find out that it was just “something different” and not what they truly yearn for. That is because a number of Catholics, including the young, long for tradition, beauty, and reverence, and that desire doesn’t just go away. As I believe Cardinal Newman remarked, he can go to the TLM and always find something new. I believe any young person who desires reverence and beauty and discovers the TLM will be deeply grateful for it for the rest of their life.

Thus there is a little more objectivity in all of this, and not just the desire for “something different.”

 

[bkovacs]

Your profile says Orthodox. So why do you care either way about the OF or the EF?

Re-did my profile to “Traditional Roman Catholic” by Orthodox I meant Orthodox Catholic.

 

[catharina]

Re-did my profile to “Traditional Roman Catholic” by Orthodox I meant Orthodox Catholic.

I almost guessed you meant Orthodox Catholic but that category doesn’t exist any more than does a category of Traditional Roman Catholic. To put it definitively, one is Roman Catholic or not. Any other term might describe one’s preferences but not one’s Catholic faith.

 

[bkovacs]

I think that history makes it obvious that the young yearn for something different than what they are already experiencing.

This is what encourages young people to grow up–if they didn’t want something different, they would be content to stay home with their parents forever.

A certain U.S. Presidential candidate is using this “desire for something different” to capture the attention and votes of the young. This candidate isn’t explaining exactly what his/her ideas for change are, but only that under his/her Presidency, things will definitely be different.

But as the young become old, they realize that “something different” is not necessarily what they truly yearn for. They learn that “something different” eventually becomes the “same old same old” as it is practiced regularly. And they learn that something that appealed to them while they were young because it was “different” is not necessarily satisfying once they become older.

And I can say the same for the NO Mass. Same old same old, no longer satisfying as I get older. Glad I discovered the Divine Liturgy, and TLM (if I ever get to experience one in my lifetime).

 

[Rawb]

Who are they? I’ve yet to meet one

Well nice to meet you. I’m Rawb. The rest of us can be found if you ask for us. Here we are:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=199974&highlight=Young+Traditionalist

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=194178&highlight=Young+Traditionalist

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=180252&highlight=Young+Traditionalist

To put it definitively, one is Roman Catholic or not. Any other term might describe one’s preferences but not one’s Catholic faith

I’ll assume you meant “Catholic”, because in actuality, one can be Roman Catholic. Ambrosian Catholic, Mozarabic Catholic, Braga Catholic, Gallican Catholic, Sarum Catholic, Byzantine Catholic, Ukrainian Catholic, Melkite Catholic, Hungarian Catholic, Italo-Albanian Catholic, Yugoslavian Catholic, Serbian Catholic, Croation Catholic, Greek Catholic, Romanian Catholic, Ruthenian Catholic, Russian Catholic, Albanian Catholic, Bulgarian Catholic, Byelorussian Catholic, Slovak Catholic, Chaldean Catholic, Syro-Malabarese Catholic, Antiochian Catholic, Maronite Catholic, Malankarese Catholic, Coptic Catholic, Ethiopian Catholic, or Armenian Catholic!

Sorry if I repeated/missed any!

 

[bkovacs]

Welcome to the jungle!!. He He:thumbsup:

 

[catharina]

Well nice to meet you. I’m Rawb. The rest of us can be found if you ask for us. Here we are:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=199974&highlight=Young+Traditionalist

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=194178&highlight=Young+Traditionalist

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=180252&highlight=Young+Traditionalist

I’ll assume you meant “Catholic”, because in actuality, one can be Roman Catholic. Ambrosian Catholic, Mozarabic Catholic, Braga Catholic, Gallican Catholic, Sarum Catholic, Byzantine Catholic, Ukrainian Catholic, Melkite Catholic, Hungarian Catholic, Italo-Albanian Catholic, Yugoslavian Catholic, Serbian Catholic, Croation Catholic, Greek Catholic, Romanian Catholic, Ruthenian Catholic, Russian Catholic, Albanian Catholic, Bulgarian Catholic, Byelorussian Catholic, Slovak Catholic, Chaldean Catholic, Syro-Malabarese Catholic, Antiochian Catholic, Maronite Catholic, Malankarese Catholic, Coptic Catholic, Ethiopian Catholic, or Armenian Catholic!

Sorry if I repeated/missed any!

Welcome, funny one - yet one still cannot be the newly invented (yet non-existent) Orthodox Roman Catholic or Traditional Roman Catholic.

(Yes, you got my point. That’s exactly what I meant.)

 

[SemperFidelis]

Who are they? I’ve yet to meet one.

Are you kidding?

 

[catherineajt]

Re-did my profile to “Traditional Roman Catholic” by Orthodox I meant Orthodox Catholic.

You want to be very careful when referring to yourself as “Orthodox Catholic”, because there is this church, which is a schismatic church:

orthodoxcatholicchurch.org/

 

[Linnyo]

I thought it was against the rules to name parishes and pick their faults. I’m surprised this thread is even open. There is nothing wrong with that parish other than it isn’t the OP’s taste. It appears like nearly every parish I have attended.