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Regarding the teachings/commandments in the Old Testament, some of the teachings/commandments in the Old Testament were not perfect, the teachings/commandments in the New Testament are perfect and improve on the teachings of the Old Testament.

God revealed His revelations gradually over a long period of time for about 1600 years. His final revelation (the New Testament) contains His perfect teachings/commandments.

Even Quran claims to abrogate some of the earlier Quranic ‘revelations’ with better new ones. And the Quran was revealed within a period of only 23 years or so, as opposed to about 1600 years.

answering-islam.org/Authors/Farooq_Ibrahim/abrogation.htm

answering-islam.org/Quran/abrogatedverses.html
 
The tears for the laughter, Coptic. The dragon will go around this world once before this prophecy comes true.
 
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Tanith:
The tears for the laughter, Coptic. The dragon will go around this world once before this prophecy comes true.
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huh? what does that mean?
 
Cyber Knight:
Tanith… what are you talking about? Are you Hogwarts graduated? :confused: you sound like a witchcraft :eek:
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check his/her profile… tanith is a wiccan.
 
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r.gonzales:
check his/her profile… tanith is a wiccan.
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You are right Gonzales. He/she is a wiccan but I read somewhere else that he/she is learning something called toltec.
 
Interesting…interesting…shall we start the thread to deepen our knowledge about muslims? 😃
 
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Tanith:
You are right, cyber. I am learning Toltec Wisdom.
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What kind of wisdom can you get from that teaching? do you believe in God or unseen power?
 
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Andrew_11:
I would just like to say that I do not think we should pull individual verses from the Koran to try to attack the Muslim faith. Why? Because somone can just as easily pull out a verse from the OT about stoning people. We are resorting to the same tactic against Muslims that many new agers use against us.
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do you realise what are you talking about??
 
It was Christian charity that delayed The Crusades which resulted in the bloody spread of Islam until it was a wee bit too late!
It is Christian charity that allow immigrant muslims in the west to “make their presence felt”

It is Christian Charity here in this Forum that will make muslim THINK that we are endorsing them, much like they think Maurice Buccaile did! 😃

Whether we like it or not muslims MUST be made to take a “good look” at themselves, and where better to do that than in an anonymous forum like this one!.. 😃

Yes they are our guests but look what France’s African guest did to France’s towns?

Look what they did in London on 7/7
 
Oh and on the subject of persecution and humiliation just ask just about any non-muslim living in muslim-majority (Islamic) country.

Let me tell you what happens to me THIS AFTERNOON in my office. There’s this muslim lady who sent out mass-circulation e-mail asking to be forgiven for her wrongdoings (should there ever be. that is) before she embark on a pilgrimage to Mecca for a Haj before the end of the year. I noticed that she was addressing her e-mail to “those whose religion is Islam”. Being a friend of her, I politely inquired, “Why muslim only?”, to which she replied, “We muslims have no case against kuffars! Kuffars will not be judged in the afterlife because they will go straight to hell to become the firewood there” … Heheheheh … 😃 Then I asked, “So if muslims kill, rob, cheat, rape non-muslims, they are not committing sin?” She said, “We muslims have no case against non-muslims…” Whatever that may means? 😃 It was because I was charitable that our little discussion ended there, and I think she felt great that I succumb to her superiority ! 😃

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Try going to an official function where the speakers address only the muslims… :confused: It makes one think that one is not wanted there at all.

How about getting arrested for selling food to a muslim during the fasting month? BTW is there any verse in the Koran to that effect?

How about having your newly-built, hard-earned chapel bull-dozed in minutes?

Charity!
 
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Ching_PBUH:
Oh and on the subject of persecution and humiliation just ask just about any non-muslim living in muslim-majority (Islamic) country.

Let me tell you what happens to me THIS AFTERNOON in my office. There’s this muslim lady who sent out mass-circulation e-mail asking to be forgiven for her wrongdoings (should there ever be. that is) before she embark on a pilgrimage to Mecca for a Haj before the end of the year. I noticed that she was addressing her e-mail to “those whose religion is Islam”. Being a friend of her, I politely inquired, “Why muslim only?”, to which she replied, “We muslims have no case against kuffars! Kuffars will not be judged in the afterlife because they will go straight to hell to become the firewood there” … Heheheheh … 😃 Then I asked, “So if muslims kill, rob, cheat, rape non-muslims, they are not committing sin?” She said, “We muslims have no case against non-muslims…” Whatever that may means? 😃 It was because I was charitable that our little discussion ended there, and I think she felt great that I succumb to her superiority ! 😃
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Sounds like she’s just repeating parrot like what the mullahs train them to say without really knowing the reason why! Just like robots!😃
 
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janG:
We are stupid if we bury our heads in the sand. The New Testament tells us we must be “wise as serpents.” How can you be wise, if you do not understand what you’re dealing with?
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Exactly!
Try reading their Koran in the chronological order of the revelations. That should open your eyes. It’s quite shocking to watch Mohammed move from warner to blood-thirsty murderer/dictator.
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According to Ali Sina of faithfreedom.org, he was a narcissistic psychopath with no conscience “who could make up all sorts of lies and kill as many people as he desired with no compunction at all”.*

"Add to this, the absolute conviction of the psychopath liar and his readiness to apply extreme force in support of claim. Appealing to force, in order to support a claim is another logical fallacy used by dictators and especially by Muhammad. This fallacy is called Argumentum ad baculum. It happens when someone resorts to force (or the threat of force) to push others to accept a conclusion.*

This argument is often brought up by Muslims who say that the reason Muahmmad won against all his enemies is because God assisted him.They completely overlook the fact that Muhammad used to send spies to bring him news about his to-be-victims and would attack when they were unarmed and least expecting. That he did not win because God was with him but because he was a cunning, perfidious and ruthless man who was bent to win even through dishonesty, treason and by taking his victims by surprise."*

See “The Secret of Muhammad’s Success”*
faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina40612.htm and “The Force Behind Muhammad” faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina10306.htm for the truth of his “revelations”
Remember they have this wonderful abrogation rule that says a later verse replaces an earlier verse. All of the play nice with your fellow human beings verses are long before all the kill them and slay them whereever you find them and Islam must rule the world verses. The Koran moves from a message of God is the judge of souls to Islam is the judge and all non-Muslims must be oppressed or killed. The message is intolerance and hate and that the only innocent life is a Muslim life. Then tune into the news and see its application in action. Try to take a Bible into Saudi Arabia. Pay attention to what is happening to Christians and others around the world at the hands of Islam.

I cringe whenever I hear someone say Islam is a religion of peace. That is true only if you ignore the last 30 or so revelations. It’s a lie when someone says it’s been highjacked by the extremists. No, actually, they’re just following Mohammed’s teachings more literally than the peaceful ones. There is a huge debate within Islam on how to move its barbaric teachings forward. The peaceful ones can’t even admit to themselves that the extremist ones ARE following the Koran. They try to rationalize the violence away by saying they’re “misinterpreting” Islam. No, the particular scholar they’ve chosen to listen to says it’s a misinterpretation. Since Islam has no leadership, there is no official interpretation. Each individual decides which Islam they’ll follow. Since they all believe the Koran is the literal word of God and Mohammed could do no wrong, it’s not a debate the peaceful ones can ever win. They can only continue to deceive themselves about what Mohammed really was. Meanwhile the rest of the world gets to suffer at the hands of Islamic violence and oppression.
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Very true!
 
Want to see how Islam treats non-Muslims?

See the following

answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/rights.htm

debate.org.uk/topics/history/xstnc-5.html

andrewbostom.org/

dhimmi.org/

dhimmitude.org/

answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/index.htm

answering-islam.org/Index/J/jihad.html

The Truth about Islamic Crusades and Imperialism by James Arlandson
americanthinker.com/arti…4&search=bostom

See also

The Legacy of Jihad in Historical Palestine (Part I) By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.p…id=76&Itemid=27

The Legacy of Jihad in Historical Palestine (Part II) By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.p…id=77&Itemid=27

The Legacy of Jihad in India By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.p…id=48&Itemid=27

The Jihad Genocide of the Armenians By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55&Itemid=27

A Modern Jihad Genocide By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=27

Palestine during the “Golden Age of Islam” By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=39&Itemid=27

Textbook Jihad in Egypt By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=27

The Ayatollahs’ Final Solution? By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27

Is Paul Bremer “Unclean”? By Andrew G. Bostom
andrewbostom.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=27

answering-islam.org/Index/C/crusades.html

Also,

People, please read the following

“Murdered by Muhammad:
The Brutal Deaths of Islam’s Earliest Enemies”
By David Wood
answeringinfidels.com/content/view/61/42/

It’s very sad…
 
Expecting members of any Church to defend or answer for the excesses or extremism of bodies that have broken with it is a technique that has no merit and can’t be defended.
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Our Muslim friends have shown that there are several factions who have perpetrated much of this horror.

Due to the uncharitable direction this thread has taken… it is now closed.
 
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