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Hi everyone,
In England a law has been passed that allows baby’s cells to be altered by using the parents cells and another persons cells,essentially this law allows people to pick what genes they want their children to have by using the non parent cells and in turn getting rid of the bad genes,I just wanted to know what everyone’s opinion on this is?

God Bless
 
May God have mercy on us all! We dabble in things we do not understand and the children suffer.
 
Hi everyone,
In England a law has been passed that allows baby’s cells to be altered by using the parents cells and another persons cells,essentially this law allows people to pick what genes they want their children to have by using the non parent cells and in turn getting rid of the bad genes,I just wanted to know what everyone’s opinion on this is?

God Bless
is the purpose to repair genetic defects?
 
is the purpose to repair genetic defects?
It is… which is why on surface view it doesn’t seem so heinous… though, I’m sure it can just as easily be twisted into a re-purposed avenue of selfishness.

It does involve IVF, which inherently removes that parental privilege of the conjugal act in marriage for the purpose of procreation… so that, in itself, is immoral…
 
Are they using the third party genes in the conception or is this a post conception therapeutic technique?? If it were post conceptual, it just sounds wrong. But if its done as a IVF process, its clearly wrong and just evil if its done solely for preferences in physical or cognitive traits. People are getting sicker and sicker.
 
It takes two to make an embryo, therefore three can only make one and a half. What becomes of the remainder product?

“Consequence too is a truth which is rooted in a term, or temporal frame. Like Truth,
Consequence is definitively what will-be. Some Consequences, like some Truths, can be small,
and thereby momentarily ignored, and possibly, to some extent, avoided in the immediate.
However, like the example of the inevitable approach of Armageddon, it is foolish to think that
Priority might ever be devoid of consequence as it is to believe that the other half of a Society
might allow it to be so.
A perhaps convoluted example, but one from real societal interaction is the notion of
artificial insemination. Tomorrow (and the tomorrows of tomorrow) requires Others (new
members with which to guarantee the possibility of oblivion today, when the mores and norms
that allow us to reach tomorrow are voided). Therefore strong arguments ring forth across the
spectrum. Is it a right to create Another? Is not creation sacred, is not the innocent flesh of
tomorrow required? Who decides now? Who gets to decide what to do with the leftover? Who
gets to decide who gets to create? Should men and other species of animals create or carry
human children?
Again, temporally, the most important questions reveal themselves when the argument is
drawn into tomorrow (stretched out past today). Thus is demonstrated: Consequence in the
immediate versus consequence in the indefinite.
Thereby, when viewed in the known entirety, of artificial insemination, at least one major
question stands, and that is: even with 100% success, throughout the machinations of artificial
insemination, what happens, and what should happen, to what is never used in the creation of
others” [the remainder]? What is the remainder product? What does societal agreement
withstand as to its disposition?
What, in truth, is the sustainable shared-value of our physical minutia? Clearly, as
proven in the relatively momentary history of artificial insemination where no better than one in
four embryos are used to create people, what we figuratively and actually are, has lost value.
Strangely enough too is that, in seeking to create others, and in, also, being so devalued,
man, (mankind, members of societies), in his physical minutia, has also managed to become
currency in common commerce. That is to say, that which is us can be quantified by a pecuniary
sum, and thereafter be physically traded for money.
The flag can then be thrown “Who cares? “Are we not sacrificing [in PRIORITY] to
create progeny that not only, in themselves, require tomorrow, but also require my further outlay
[in priority] to provide it”? “Does not my notion that MY children will specifically cement fast
MY notion to the idea of tomorrow than the prospect [idea] of supporting anyone else’s
children?”
The answer is only possibly. However the Machiavellian approach is a poison pill in the
furtherance of [a] society, or the furtherance of a society that can be furthered.
Holding the tattered lineage of it up against the timeline of human history it does not
equate with any other society that has managed to eek out continued existence within the
construction of tomorrow.” (TERMS, J.M. Thomas R., 2012)
 
From what I hear the remaining half an embryo will be discarded.
 
Hi everyone,
In England a law has been passed that allows baby’s cells to be altered by using the parents cells and another persons cells,essentially this law allows people to pick what genes they want their children to have by using the non parent cells and in turn getting rid of the bad genes,I just wanted to know what everyone’s opinion on this is?

God Bless
It’s wrong. 😦
 
Hi everyone,
In England a law has been passed that allows baby’s cells to be altered by using the parents cells and another persons cells,essentially this law allows people to pick what genes they want their children to have by using the non parent cells and in turn getting rid of the bad genes,I just wanted to know what everyone’s opinion on this is?

God Bless
Horrific.
 
Let’s step back a bit for a moment. Is this removing a restriction that would allow gene therapy, or is this enabling three people to claim parental lineage in a legal standpoint based upon the genetics involved?

On the face of it, I have no qualms with gene therapy provided we proceed carefully and only where necessary. Therapy to remedy things like Cystic Fibrosis seems worth pursuing. But I wonder at what else is necessary to do so. There have been a small number of successes for gene therapy in adults but I do not yet know of such a thing being done in utero. There have also been severe side effects and at least one death from gene therapy.

I’m not familiar with UK law - it may simply be that such legal consent is required because such gene therapy is currently prohibited.
 
Does anybody have a link for this? I’m not really understanding what this is.

You can’t make an embryo and a half; I’m pretty sure that’s just nonsense. You would have an embryo + a random haploid cell.
 
Hi everyone,
In England a law has been passed that allows baby’s cells to be altered by using the parents cells and another persons cells,essentially this law allows people to pick what genes they want their children to have by using the non parent cells and in turn getting rid of the bad genes,I just wanted to know what everyone’s opinion on this is?

God Bless
Plainly sad
 
Does anybody have a link for this? I’m not really understanding what this is.

You can’t make an embryo and a half; I’m pretty sure that’s just nonsense. You would have an embryo + a random haploid cell.
Sorry I got really confused about this myself from what I have just seen on the news here the embryo created by a man and woman is transferred into another woman’s egg however with doing this causes some minor changes thus eradicating a disease the unborn child may have,however the news also said the treatment may lead to the creation of so called “designer babies” whereby parents can choose their babies genetical makeup.

Here is the link : news.sky.com/story/1109022/worlds-first-three-parent-baby-may-be-british
 
I recall a margarine commercial from the 70’s that proclaimed “It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature”. Why do we humans insist we know better than God? When I saw this, I softly banged my head on my desk and prayed “Forgive them, Father…for they know not what they do”. :banghead:
 
Sorry I got really confused about this myself from what I have just seen on the news here the embryo created by a man and woman is transferred into another woman’s egg however with doing this causes some minor changes thus eradicating a disease the unborn child may have,however the news also said the treatment may lead to the creation of so called “designer babies” whereby parents can choose their babies genetical makeup.

Here is the link : news.sky.com/story/1109022/worlds-first-three-parent-baby-may-be-british
Very interesting. Can’t be done without IVF, so it wouldn’t be allowable.

Pity we still can’t treat these things.
 
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