Through him with him in him

[down_under]

okay I am uncertain of this. at my current parish the priest is joined by the entire congregation when he says “through him with him in him” the bit right before the great amen. now after closer examination the missal says that only the priest says this and we respond with the great amen. I mention it because we went to the mother in laws parish this year for christmas and 1 parishoner said this very loudly with the priest and everyone was very much offended by it. who is right? or is this an option. looking for someone who has an answer from the churchs athority. thank you for all responces. your time is appreciated.

 

[Tonks40]

This is a no-no. The congregation should not be saying these words - only the priest.

We had this problem at my parish many years ago. It was only corrected when a more orthodox priest came in - now the celebrant chants this part, and no one rightfully joins him.

 

[puzzleannie]

this is an example of a real, serious liturgical abuse which goes deep to the heart of the meaning of the priesthood, among other things, and is probably a sign of deep-rooted mistaken attitudes about the Mass, and of other continuing abuses. Do you mean a few people do this, perhaps unconciously, or that it is encouraged for all, from the priest, a major problem.

 

[Phemie]

I’ve been in more than one parish where this was instigated by the priest. In my hometown parish a former pastor actually told the Parish Council that he was doing something he wasn’t supposed to by having them join in – of course, “thou shall not steal” didn’t mean anything to him either.

Redemptionis Sacramentum:
[52.] The proclamation of the Eucharistic Prayer, which by its very nature is the climax of the whole celebration, is proper to the Priest by virtue of his Ordination. It is therefore an abuse to proffer it in such a way that some parts of the Eucharistic Prayer are recited by a Deacon, a lay minister, or by an individual member of the faithful, or by all members of the faithful together. The Eucharistic Prayer, then, is to be recited by the Priest alone in full.[131]

 

[THurifer2]

okay I am uncertain of this. at my current parish the priest is joined by the entire congregation when he says “through him with him in him” the bit right before the great amen. now after closer examination the missal says that only the priest says this and we respond with the great amen. I mention it because we went to the mother in laws parish this year for christmas and 1 parishoner said this very loudly with the priest and everyone was very much offended by it. who is right? or is this an option. looking for someone who has an answer from the churchs athority. thank you for all responces. your time is appreciated.

It is an abuse of the HIghest Degree. THe one parishoner should be asked to stop. If not then they should be asked to leave…if they refuse…give me a call and I will come down there myself…

Ok OK just kidding. It is a serious abuse though and a MAJOR NO NO…

 

[Jimdandy]

only the priest may say these words OUT LOUD as we offer ourselves along with Jesus’'sacrifice to God

 

[Joe_Kelley]

The practice of the congregation reciting these words was a brief fad when the English mass was first introduced. It was condemned by the appropriate Congregation at the Vatican within a year or so, but some places, and people, are slow to get the word.

 

[xsuasox]

Aw, can I still sing it to myself in my car when driving down the road, because the monks here have a beautiful way of chanting it, and it gets stuck in my head…

 

[Holland]

The practice of the congregation reciting these words was a brief fad when the English mass was first introduced. It was condemned by the appropriate Congregation at the Vatican within a year or so, but some places, and people, are slow to get the word.

Oh, if this were only true. The priest at the local Catholic church says “all together now” right before the Concluding Doxology, encouraging all to say the words. This is followed by the Ministers of the Eucharist breaking the Bread over the paten. The choir members and the ministers then take a piece of the Bread from the paten and with the priest they all receive Communion together. This is deliberate and has nothing to do with being slow to get the word.

 

[Kayleigh]

I have never heard anyone say it along with our Priest at the parish.