Tilly-sur-Seulles apparitions

[StrawberryJam]

St. Ignatius was a cannonized saint. Yep. He got hit with a cannon ball while in the army.

As for consulting my well-known sources of statistics on age, marital status and shoe size of all canonized saints … I’ll have to get back to you on that. Aside from your interest in counting various things, why do you want to know?

Meanwhile, I hope you’re getting started on all of that good reading. :hug3:

(I think there have far more female saints than male in the past 500 years or so – but that’s a wild guess).

Shoe size would not be a valid factor to consider in this unless shoe size is a commonality in cannoized saints.
The fact that there may be more cannonized women in the past 500 years or so ago, is not really helping me see objectivity on the catholic church’s part to be honest. Seems to be a concession of sorts, to pacify them. shrug that is not meant in a disrespectful way, but a very cold reading of the facts you gave me.

 

[lovemyboys]

I have a theory that Mary, being our mother, is more of a “busy-body” (in a good way, of course). She wants to nudge people into getting right with the Lord, just like Earthly mothers try to nudge their children on the right paths. I love Mary for that!!!

 

[StrawberryJam]

I have a theory that Mary, being our mother, is more of a “busy-body” (in a good way, of course). She wants to nudge people into getting right with the Lord, just like Earthly mothers try to nudge their children on the right paths. I love Mary for that!!!

I often wonder about her intent to ask the catholic faithful to pray for the “conversion” of Russia, when we know and she must have known the Russian Orthodox Church was in persecution and hiding, but never died.

 

[reggieM]

The fact that there may be more cannonized women in the past 500 years or so ago, is not really helping me see objectivity on the catholic church’s part to be honest. Seems to be a concession of sorts, to pacify them. shrug that is not meant in a disrespectful way, but a very cold reading of the facts you gave me.

I’d suggest that you shouldn’t draw conclusions from a limited or non-existent number of facts, first. After that, it’s important to go beyond mere facts (as in numeric counts) and understand the historical, theological and social issues.

We might like to imagine that women had exaulted roles among the Visigoths, Lombards, Danes, Vandals, Normans, Slavs, Norse, Huns, Celts and Vikings before the Christianization of those people. But the Christian influence which elevated the status of women (beginning the apostolic era) was not a concession to pacify anybody at all.

The Blessed Virgin has a higher status than any male saint - and this was recognized by the earliest Fathers of the Church (I can provide references if you’re interested).
So, I think it’s important to have an open-mind and assess all of the information.

 

[reggieM]

I often wonder about her intent to ask the catholic faithful to pray for the “conversion” of Russia, when we know and she must have known the Russian Orthodox Church was in persecution and hiding, but never died.

When she spoke of “Russia” at that time, it was with regards to the atheistic state and Soviet Communism. The Orthodox were certainly praying for the conversion of their nation also, just as many Catholics pray for the conversion of the United States today.