Time for a New Spiritual (not Religious) Order?

[grannymh]

The write up on the website is by the author Matthew Fox :

I’m wondering in what way is religion needed in peoples lives. A lot of people no longer attend churches, free thinking for the individual seems to have become stronger over the years.
Declaring oneself as a believer in a higher power, which can be God for some, or the universe for others, but not declaring that one is subject to the hierarchy, which Fox seems to be talking about.

One more thought about religion. We can no longer refer to religion in the singular. There are thousands of Christian religions plus all the religions which are not Christian and all are not clones of each other. There are other activities which take on the appearance of some goal orientated religions.

To ask in what way is religion needed in peoples lives, one has to first determine which religion. Religion usually involves some kind of person which appears dominant and some kind of activity required of the religious person. Because of that variety, it is better to be precise when thinking about “religion.”

One can use the Catholic religion since this is a Catholic website. Is the Catholic religion important in people’s lives? If yes, how is it important? If not, what is the person losing?

 

[simpleas]

Is it important to be obedient to the hierarchy of our church (and any other christian church) in that we are told certain disobedience would be a grave offence to God, and not trust our own conscience?

I think it is noted in the CCC about conscience and obedience to the church, but I’ll have to check for it later as I am on my way to church.

 

[grannymh]

Is it important to be obedient to the hierarchy of our church (and any other christian church) in that we are told certain disobedience would be a grave offence to God, and not trust our own conscience?

This does not sound like the Catholic Church.

It ignores the fact that Jesus Christ is head of the Mystical Body of Christ. The Mystical Body is the Catholic Church. It also ignores that we are obedient to Divine Revelation as determined by the wisdom of the Holy Spirit within major ecumenical Catholic Church councils. And the major missing information is the State of Mortal Sin and what it does.

I think it is noted in the CCC about conscience and obedience to the church, but I’ll have to check for it later as I am on my way to church.

 

[simpleas]

Unfortunately I can not find the piece I read a few days ago, I think it was official church teaching but I’m not sure.

 

[grannymh]

Is it important to be obedient to the hierarchy of our church (and any other christian church) in that we are told certain disobedience would be a grave offence to God, and not trust our own conscience?

I think it is noted in the CCC about conscience and obedience to the church, but I’ll have to check for it later as I am on my way to church.

This assumes that a person knows the difference between a major Catholic doctrine properly declared with the wisdom of the Holy Spirit and free speech.

 

[grannymh]

This assumes that a person knows the difference between a major Catholic doctrine properly declared with the wisdom of the Holy Spirit and free speech.

I hope we can continue this discussion.

Blessings,
granny