No problem! Just make sure you’re making the choice because you want too, the choice that you feel is best for you. Don’t worry about what others will think. A Church with rampant abuses is enough to test the Faith of any man or woman. No need to put yourself into that situation if you don’t have to. Just pray about it, and the Lord will lead you in the right direction. God Bless!
You could try writing to the bishop. I wrote to my bishop about my Newman Center, and he said he will speak to the pastor there.
No, however I think my spouse and I will have a much more fruitful attempt if we are in another parish. I don’t think this parish is completely off the rails, but I do think that we are better suited to go elsewhere.
There are many Catholic parishes where “loyal dissent” is taught by Priests or those “in charge” of the parish (ie. RCIA directors, etc.). I’ve heard it myself. Denial of Church Dogmas is sometimes rampant in these parishes. Denial of Church Dogma is a mortal sin, and you know where that leads you…
Is that right? You know what’s in the hearts of those who come to worship Our Lord in the Eucharist? Once a week we come to worship Our Lord and we got to blah blah blah, huggy kissy, dance and clap, sing happy songs etc etc… and how much time is actually given to God? Give me a break!! Have your fellowship afterwards with coffee and donuts!!!
**Is that right, You know what’s in the hearts of those that blah blah blah,? **
You have a problem with those that hug and kiss during the “Peace be with you” that follows the Lord’s Prayer.
** Never been to a Mass that people danced, so I can’t answer that one, but on the surface I think you are just throwing stuff out there to vent steam.**
What you want depressing songs all the time. Somewhere in dem there scriptures it says to make a joyful noise…
You seem to know whats is in the mind of those present as to judge how much time is given to God?
Actually we do fellowship afterwards with coffe and doughnuts.
Now if the blah blah blah is being done where the tabernacle is then you should be obligated to chastise these people. I have done so on a number of occasions.
I know no one’s heart. I can only see the actions. And yes I think those actions speak of where people are coming from. I hear as much noise in some churches as if I’m at a basketball game. Little recognition of the Real Presence if the Tabernacle isn’t hidden somewhere. If the sign of peace were somewhere else in the liturgy I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Depressing songs, no I think we have enough joyful noise as it is. Loathing anger? Talk about judgemental!!! I"m speaking of what I see and hear.Is that right, You know what’s in the hearts of those that blah blah blah,?
You have a problem with those that hug and kiss during the “Peace be with you” that follows the Lord’s Prayer.
** Never been to a Mass that people danced, so I can’t answer that one, but on the surface I think you are just throwing stuff out there to vent steam.**
What you want depressing songs all the time. Somewhere in dem there scriptures it says to make a joyful noise…
You seem to know whats is in the mind of those present as to judge how much time is given to God?
How much time to you give God in any given Day? God is gracious to give you 24 hours of life each day. Do you give HIM back a tenth of that in return in the form of prayer? 2.4 hours?
Actually we do fellowship afterwards with coffe and doughnuts.
It seems people like you are too concerned about the actions of others. You should worry about your own actions. What other people do is between them and God.
**Jesus did say there would be weeds amongst the tares. **
Also we are to not judge others lest we be judge by the same measure. Do you want to be judged by God with the same loathing anger or at least with the same disdain that you have for your fellow parishioners?
a) There have always been “high powered evangelists”.
You have missed a beautiful spiritual experience.
Traditions endure, because they are seen as points of stability in a changing environment. A Latin Tridentine Mass hearkens back to days of stability. It provides the perception that despite major changes in secular philosophy, politics, ethics, etc, one can worship in the same manner as one’s forebears, with the same beliefs and practices. That perception can be extremely comforting, especially to refugees of secular theology.
Does a violation of Canon Law cause one to lose one’s salvation? If so, then yes, activities that violate Canon Law and are held under the auspices of a Roman Catholic parish could cause one to lose one’s salvation.
This is my first post. I initially joined the forum to find answers about doctrines, devotions, etc. However, I was scanning this thread and shocked to see so much negativity regarding the Mass and different parishes. I don’t mean to sound obtuse, but this does not seem complicated. It’s Mass people!!! Enjoy it!!
This is my first post. I initially joined the forum to find answers about doctrines, devotions, etc. However, I was scanning this thread and shocked to see so much negativity regarding the Mass and in different parishes.
Wow. I must be really messed up in thinking Catholics believe in, practice, and hold to Tradition as God commands and aren’t just like Protestants in wanting to change with the season. I thought Catholics didn’t change and go with the flow of society. Because God never changes, nor do his teachings. Tradition and following that is what makes Catholicism RIGHT. Progressive Catholics who are all for changing and throwing out things to “get with the times, man!” IMO, they might as well be Protestants.
There are 70,000 members at CA. How many are Catholic? Let’s assume all are Catholic and there is not one single member has more than one logon name. 70,000 Catholics out of 1.5 billion Catholics. That is an insequential 0.005 %. A very small representation.
Assuming a generous 10% of that Catholic membership are Traditionalist, then…I am sure you can do the math…if not it is 0.0005 % representation.
This resurgence is only because of the Pope Benedict XVI. Will it hold steam with the next Pope in a couple of years? Only time will tell. Now the question begs from you that hold the TM in such high regard. Was Pope John Paul a heretic because he was silent on the issue or at least he was a bad Pope because he was silent?
Like on poster said. The Mass is the Mass.
Probably. Look at who, where, and how often the TLM has been performed in the last 40 years. And look at the obstacles that have been placed in the way of parishes that have wanted to utilize it, in the last forty years.
That Catholics don’t know about the TM doesn’t mean much beyond not knowing much about the theology, doctrines, and practices of their faith.
Actually, they are much more detectable in the TLM. The words and actions are all printed right there in the missal.
And they are not printed in the NO English Missal?
Thye could have chose a young liberal Pope, one that had no ties to Vatican II or the Traditional Mass. Instead, guided by the Holy Spirit, they chose a conservative Pope thqt knows that importance of Tradition.