Times are getting better morally?

[JABA]

I work as registered nurse in psychiatry. I must say I work with some very sexually immoral people, most who are already in their late 50’s or 60’s.

I was told stories of how it use to be like to work as nurse in psychiatry when these people were younger, like over 15-30 years ago. I was really shocked

Back then, it was a normal thing to have sex on the ward with your other colleagues, or after work. These people who were doing it, were also not single but also happily married people. Nobody cared if you are married or not, to ask you out. Like some staff, would only know each other for like 2 days and ended having an affair. Some would also have an affair as revenge to a husband or wife who was already cheating.

The scary thing also is that almost none of these nurses who are now in their 50’s and 60’s find anything wrong with what they did, nor have any guilt or remorse. They say that it was a normal thing back then.

But now, I cannot imagine anything like what use to occur to happen now. We had cases where some married men were wanting to have affairs with some single women, but it was put a stop too as these women knew these men were married and knew it was wrong.

At this time now, we also have the highest number of nurses working from an Indian and Asian backgrounds. I find that these nurses have higher moral standards and are more conservative compared to most other nursing staff.

Are times changing for the better? It looks like it.

 

[Irish_Polock]

I work as registered nurse in psychiatry. I must say I work with some very sexually immoral people, most who are already in their late 50’s or 60’s.

I was told stories of how it use to be like to work as nurse in psychiatry when these people were younger, like over 15-30 years ago. I was really shocked

Back then, it was a normal thing to have sex on the ward with your other colleagues, or after work. These people who were doing it, were also not single but also happily married people. Nobody cared if you are married or not, to ask you out. Like some staff, would only know each other for like 2 days and ended having an affair. Some would also have an affair as revenge to a husband or wife who was already cheating.

The scary thing also is that almost none of these nurses who are now in their 50’s and 60’s find anything wrong with what they did, nor have any guilt or remorse. They say that it was a normal thing back then.

But now, I cannot imagine anything like what use to occur to happen now. We had cases where some married men were wanting to have affairs with some single women, but it was put a stop too as these women knew these men were married and knew it was wrong.

At this time now, we also have the highest number of nurses working from an Indian and Asian backgrounds. I find that these nurses have higher moral standards and are more conservative compared to most other nursing staff.

Are times changing for the better? It looks like it.

Are the times getting better morally? Not if you have ever hung out with ER RN’s. I mean -whew…

 

[Tietjen]

I work as registered nurse in psychiatry. I must say I work with some very sexually immoral people, most who are already in their late 50’s or 60’s.

I was told stories of how it use to be like to work as nurse in psychiatry when these people were younger, like over 15-30 years ago. I was really shocked

Back then, it was a normal thing to have sex on the ward with your other colleagues, or after work. These people who were doing it, were also not single but also happily married people. Nobody cared if you are married or not, to ask you out. Like some staff, would only know each other for like 2 days and ended having an affair. Some would also have an affair as revenge to a husband or wife who was already cheating.

The scary thing also is that almost none of these nurses who are now in their 50’s and 60’s find anything wrong with what they did, nor have any guilt or remorse. They say that it was a normal thing back then.

But now, I cannot imagine anything like what use to occur to happen now. We had cases where some married men were wanting to have affairs with some single women, but it was put a stop too as these women knew these men were married and knew it was wrong.

At this time now, we also have the highest number of nurses working from an Indian and Asian backgrounds. I find that these nurses have higher moral standards and are more conservative compared to most other nursing staff.

Are times changing for the better? It looks like it.

Perhaps things are better in your particular office; however, call me a pessimist, but I think that overall things are getting a lot worse.

 

[beth40n2]

Overall, the morals in America are as low as they can get. How often do you talk to people who are not sleeping around, or doing other imoral things. How many people can say they have only been married to one person and has never cheated?

Youth think that divorce is normal. Are the vows until death do us part? Or until I get sick of you? Or until I find someone else that has a better body?

The language of youth is terrible, they even admit it.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Overall, the morals in America are as low as they can get…

Have you studied the early history of America? Particularly the California gold rush era? Every vice you could imagine was tolerated to a much greater degree than it is now. Then there was all the immorality that went along with the era of slavery. Morals may not be at an all-time high right now, but they are certainly not at an all-time low. You would have to ignore a lot of history to believe that.

 

[manualman]

I doubt any generation has needed the Grace of God LESS than any other. It’s almost silly to quibble about it. IMO every culture has its strengths and weaknesses morally.

30 years ago unhappy spouses may have succumbed to adultery with people who circumstances placed in their lives routinely (i.e. at work, volunteer groups, etc). Today there is no cultural stigma about walking into a bar, flirting it up with somebody and having a one night stand, so more people do that instead of complicating their lives with work affairs. I’d bet the overall rate of unfaithfulness is up though.

But then on the other hand, we today appear to be much more serious about protecting women and children from physical and sexual abuse than people were 30 years ago. Back then even the police considered that sort of thing “a private matter, nobody else’s business.” So our motion is not ALL in the wrong direction.

 

[Equites_Christi]

The language of youth is terrible, they even admit it.

As a whole, the morals of youth are really non-existent. I will readily admit that. I only ask that you do not close your mind to exceptions.

My girlfriend and I, some very faraway day (we are far too young) plan on getting married, if it is in the Lord’s will. We both abhor divorce, even though it has happened in both our families - but not between our parents, thank goodness. We refuse to engage in pre-marital sexual activity, or drink, or do drugs, or use ABC if we do finally get married. And, very sadly, this sets us apart from virtually every single peer we know. It can be very discouraging trying to live virtuously when all the world - even friends - seems to have discarded any semblance of morals like an old rag.

So to address the OP, I would have to disagree and say that the times are on a moral decline: what the older women in your office are no longer doing, now every teenager and his brother are doing, and THEN some

EC

 

[wynnejj]

I work as registered nurse in psychiatry. I must say I work with some very sexually immoral people, most who are already in their late 50’s or 60’s.

I was told stories of how it use to be like to work as nurse in psychiatry when these people were younger, like over 15-30 years ago. I was really shocked

Their sex drive is on the decline as their age increases. Their morals are probably level.

 

[kbwall]

It’s quite sad how distorted the idea of marriage has become. To some people, it’s just an extension of dating, something that be broken up if one party wants out, with minimal effort to keep it together.

However, having said that, infedelity is not a new thing. Even going back hundreds of years ago, married men had their mistresses to cheat with. Divorce rates may be higher, but that may because people are simply more comfortable getting a divorce compare to back in the day when people would simply cheat if they were dissatisfied.

 

[edwest2]

Have you studied the early history of America? Particularly the California gold rush era? Every vice you could imagine was tolerated to a much greater degree than it is now. Then there was all the immorality that went along with the era of slavery. Morals may not be at an all-time high right now, but they are certainly not at an all-time low. You would have to ignore a lot of history to believe that.

Morals are at an all time low right now. The Gold Rush era does not matter since all of those people are dead. History is not relevant to the present since the Catholic Church teaches absolute truths about moral behavior. Using that yardstick, TV’s should just be thrown out with the trash. Most movies should be condemned and most magazines should not be read.

I work in the media and know where it was, where it is today, and its tentative plans for the future. Never in the history of the world has there been such pervasive 24/7 mass communications. Never.

Peace,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

It’s quite sad how distorted the idea of marriage has become. To some people, it’s just an extension of dating, something that be broken up if one party wants out, with minimal effort to keep it together.

However, having said that, infedelity is not a new thing. Even going back hundreds of years ago, married men had their mistresses to cheat with. Divorce rates may be higher, but that may because people are simply more comfortable getting a divorce compare to back in the day when people would simply cheat if they were dissatisfied.

“more comfortable”? Why? Of the people I know who went through a divorce, it was very difficult.

Peace,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

I doubt any generation has needed the Grace of God LESS than any other. It’s almost silly to quibble about it. IMO every culture has its strengths and weaknesses morally.

30 years ago unhappy spouses may have succumbed to adultery with people who circumstances placed in their lives routinely (i.e. at work, volunteer groups, etc). Today there is no cultural stigma about walking into a bar, flirting it up with somebody and having a one night stand, so more people do that instead of complicating their lives with work affairs. I’d bet the overall rate of unfaithfulness is up though.

But then on the other hand, we today appear to be much more serious about protecting women and children from physical and sexual abuse than people were 30 years ago. Back then even the police considered that sort of thing “a private matter, nobody else’s business.” So our motion is not ALL in the wrong direction.

Instead of speculating, it would be helpful to include actual studies that define what did and did not happen. In the 1960s, being raised a Catholic, you did not have sex while dating. Period. This out of respect for God’s law and the dignity of the other person. It mattered that a young lady was not known as a sleep around. This was looked down upon for good reason.

Peace,
Ed

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Morals are at an all time low right now. The Gold Rush era does not matter since all of those people are dead. History is not relevant to the present since the Catholic Church teaches absolute truths about moral behavior.

Well, yes. But if history is not relevant, then don’t say morals are at an all time low. Saying that implies that you, at least, consider history to be relevant. Because that is what the words “all time low” mean. They mean a comparison between now and times past.

 

[kbwall]

Morals are at an all time low right now. The Gold Rush era does not matter since all of those people are dead. History is not relevant to the present since the Catholic Church teaches absolute truths about moral behavior. Using that yardstick, TV’s should just be thrown out with the trash. Most movies should be condemned and most magazines should not be read.

You can’t deem the morals are at all time low and at the same time dismiss the actions of the past. How do you know they are at an all time low if you disregard the past? What are you comparing it to?

“more comfortable”? Why? Of the people I know who went through a divorce, it was very difficult.

It may have been difficult, yet they still go through with it. Divorce doesn’t have the same stigma it used to, and some people feel OK with divorcing over trivial reasons. I’m not saying all divorces are trivial, I’m sure some are due to infedelity or to abuse, but some are. And some arise from marriages that should’ve never happened in the first place.

 

[Ad_Pondus_Omniu]

I’d be hard pressed to agree, one simply has to take a walk down the main street of one’s town to realize. Both men and women in grossly immodest clothing (women in short skirts and exposed arms and exposed knees, men with exposed arms, etc.), overt sexual advertisements, abortions and homosexual marriages, etc. etc. Sad state of affairs, but it’s all be predicted, we’ve seen this for almost fifty years now.

 

[catsrus]

I grew to maturity in the 60s. That was a time of “the beginning of the end of the world” as we knew it.
It was open season on the ethics and morals with which we had been raised. Some of us eventually found our way to God after living a hedonistic life which was approved by the media and the standards of the times. I recall so much with shame.
However, there are many who, though also in their 60s. never found their moral compass and those are the folks of whom you speak.
But never say never. I was 50 years old before I opened the door of my heart.
In general though, I would have to say that “things” just keep getting worse and worse . Everytime I think I’ve “seen it all”, I haven’t.

 

[edwest2]

Well, yes. But if history is not relevant, then don’t say morals are at an all time low. Saying that implies that you, at least, consider history to be relevant. Because that is what the words “all time low” mean. They mean a comparison between now and times past.

My comparison is this. In the 1960s people went on dates. There were chaperones at parties. You told your parents what time you’d be home and you told the young lady’s parents what time you’d bring her home. You were expected to be punctual. You were expected to consider her and your own safety.

People have no clue today about what happened during the Gold Rush era. I use examples that come from people still living to illustrate how badly things can go in 40 years.

Peace,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

I grew to maturity in the 60s. That was a time of “the beginning of the end of the world” as we knew it.
It was open season on the ethics and morals with which we had been raised. Some of us eventually found our way to God after living a hedonistic life which was approved by the media and the standards of the times. I recall so much with shame.
However, there are many who, though also in their 60s. never found their moral compass and those are the folks of whom you speak.
But never say never. I was 50 years old before I opened the door of my heart.
In general though, I would have to say that “things” just keep getting worse and worse . Everytime I think I’ve “seen it all”, I haven’t.

You are exactly right. I saw a few friends drift into a life of hedonistic everything. They sought reassurance from those living the same lifestyle that what they were doing was OK. Some got out, some didn’t. Pray for those who didn’t make it yet, and thank God if you were called back from the edge.

And for Catholics, remember, God will always leave a remnant.

Peace,
Ed

 

[hxcCatholic413]

I’d be hard pressed to agree, one simply has to take a walk down the main street of one’s town to realize. Both men and women in grossly immodest clothing (women in short skirts and exposed arms and exposed knees, men with exposed arms, etc.), overt sexual advertisements, abortions and homosexual marriages, etc. etc. Sad state of affairs, but it’s all be predicted, we’ve seen this for almost fifty years now.

This could be slightly off topic, but a homosexual marriage can not really be considered a real marriage unless it is done in a Catholic or Orthodox Church. Being “married” by the state (Justice of the Peace) is only for legal reasons and can’t be considered a true marriage in the eyes of God regardless if your homosexual or straight. IMO “state” marriages are a continuation of dating. Marriage is only valid and becomes a big deal if it is done in a Catholic or Orthodox Church like I previously mentioned.

You can look at life two ways: 1.) The world we live in has gone to Hell and everywhere you look is immoral behavior and actions. 2.) Life is beautiful and there are many good people in this world who are doing many good deeds.

Instead of focusing on the negative aspects of society let us stay positive and continue to live out our lives by being moral and good Christian people, by doing this it will eventually create a balance in the world and can help change other people’s perspectives. God Bless!

 

[LeafByNiggle]

My comparison is this. In the 1960s people went on dates. There were chaperones at parties. You told your parents what time you’d be home and you told the young lady’s parents what time you’d bring her home. You were expected to be punctual. You were expected to consider her and your own safety.

People have no clue today about what happened during the Gold Rush era. I use examples that come from people still living to illustrate how badly things can go in 40 years.

Peace,
Ed

Alright. Let’s confine ourselves to the 60’s. Can you discount the lynchings and widespread degradation imposed on blacks in the South in that era? Surely there is moral improvement there while there has been moral decline in other areas. I’m not saying that things are great now. I’m just saying that generalizing to say we are at an all-time low is unjustified.