TLDM?

[japscarousel]

are you aware of the website TLDM.org?

i found a transcript of an exorcism that occured in the 70’s, tldm.org/News4/WarningsFromBeyond.3of3.htm#_Toc533070429 …your opinions about it?

They also support that there was a false Paul VI who approved the current Mass of Paul VI. Their site is quite confusing for me as I don’t know if they’re sedevacantist, Fatima extremists, or what.

 

[mattwcu]

It’s a good idea just to stay away from them…

 

[Layman]

They promote a false apparation: Bayside.

That exorcism transcript gave me a scare when I read it. Dunno how true it is.

 

[mattwcu]

Just as an aside, its not a good idea to read, listen, or watch exorcism accounts. They open your mind to the demonic things because they arouse curiousity in evil.

Stay away. God Bless. :knight1:

 

[MarkThompson]

Yes, stay away from sedevacantists, nothing good lies in that direction. Whether or not this “exorcism transcript” has any truth at all or is from the pen of a fiction writer I don’t know, but if it is true, then the last place you would want to get your information about the Church is from the mouth of some demon. “The Church is a fraud, a demon told me so!” Uh, massive fail.

 

[ProVobis]

Their site is quite confusing for me as I don’t know if they’re sedevacantist, Fatima extremists, or what.

Depends on what you’re trying to prove or research.

A phoney Paul VI obviously sounds very far-fetched and I’m surprised you would even ask us this but you’ll need some other website(s) to corroborate the claims. I never trust any one source for all the facts.

 

[Lormar]

****Yes, stay away from sedevacantists, nothing good lies in that direction. Whether or not this “exorcism transcript” has any truth at all or is from the pen of a fiction writer I don’t know, but if it is true, then the last place you would want to get your information about the Church is from the mouth of some demon. “The Church is a fraud, a demon told me so!” Uh, massive fail.

Since when are Baysiders sedevacantists?

 

[malphono]

A phoney Paul VI obviously sounds very far-fetched and I’m surprised you would even ask us this but you’ll need some other website(s) to corroborate the claims. I never trust any one source for all the facts.

Maybe it’s time to inject a note of levity into this thread.

All this talk of the “phoney Paul VI” reminds me of a contest in the Daily News some 25 years ago. The contest was for best parody of a move title (with the obligatory short description) and the runner-up was …

CUOMA! evil scientists kidnapped the governor and replaced him with a clone – and no one noticed!

It should have been the winner and no, it was not my submission.

 

[corsair]

I can remember back in the 1970’s that there was a serires of photos supposed to be of an “imposter” Pope Paul VI. The closeups were of the ears and it definately looked like two different individuals. For the most part most of these stories are just that, stories.

 

[ProVobis]

Maybe it’s time to inject a note of levity into this thread.

All this talk of the “phoney Paul VI” reminds me of a contest in the Daily News some 25 years ago. The contest was for best parody of a move title (with the obligatory short description) and the runner-up was …

CUOMA! evil scientists kidnapped the governor and replaced him with a clone – and no one noticed!

It should have been the winner and no, it was not my submission.

How about the movie “Dave” where the real President went into a coma and was hidden in the basement? The replacement was so good even his wife didn’t notice.

 

[ljubim]

Stay away from them. Supernatural stuff has been happening there, and they say, yeah, this will prove it’s a Marian apparition. But it’s not from God… That really only leaves one other option.

This is just one way the devil tries to tempt trads to leave the Church. Don’t have anything to do with them.

 

[Lormar]

Stay away from them. Supernatural stuff has been happening there, and they say, yeah, this will prove it’s a Marian apparition. But it’s not from God… That really only leaves one other option.

This is just one way the devil tries to tempt trads to leave the Church. Don’t have anything to do with them.

Leave the Church? I have a Baysider in my parish. She always says to me that Veronica Leuken said for everyone to stay in their parish.

 

[ljubim]

Leave the Church? I have a Baysider in my parish. She always says to me that Veronica Leuken said for everyone to stay in their parish.

Well haven’t they all, in effect, left the Church? They’ve directly disobeyed their bishop who told them to stop disseminating their booklets. Plus they claim imposter Popes… the vibe I get from them is that they don’t think this is the real Church any more… I could be wrong though

 

[japscarousel]

thank you for your insights. I am convinced that the Bayside apparition is false. if there’s really a fake Paul VI, then we will have a fake Mass, fake ordination etc. etc. However, I am interested in reading more insights about them. I am not aware of this apparition and I’m quite suspicious about the exorcism they published…are there any laws that prohibits publication of such conversation, or the conversation itself is illicit?

 

[ProVobis]

If there’s really a fake Paul VI, then we will have a fake Mass, fake ordination etc. etc.

I’m not sure if this follows and it depends on what you mean as “fake.” By some conspiracy theories, Cardinal Siri was elected Pope but was forced not to accept. Whether Montini was voted in properly or not is irrelevant. He was accepted and accepted himself as the official head of the Catholic Church. His authority and signatures on documents stand. If he signed to something that disagreed with the previous Pope or Popes or Magisterium, it’s still valid. The next Pope or the “real” Pope can overturn all the “fake” Pope’s decision anyway so I’d say it’s a subject matter not really worth pursuing.