I don’t know if they gave specifics as to the reform that was envisioned, either. Other than the wider use of the vernacular, I haven’t read anything specific. This is mere speculation on my part, that is might have included directing the readings to the people.
It seems, in retrospect, that more should have been discussed before implementing the reform.I don’t think that it’s common for an FSSP priest to only give a homily on a major feast day. The FSSP parish in my city gives a homily for every Sunday Mass, both high and low Mass. There usually isn’t a homily given for the low Masses on weekdays. As has already been mentioned on the thread, homilies aren’t required, but some of us really like them, as they tend to strengthen our faith, IMO. Is it possible that you priest isn’t comfortable with speaking in front of others, or something like that? You should mention to him, though, that you’d like to hear more homilies. If he then gives more homilies, be sure to thank him for it, and tell him what parts of the homilies that you liked, so as to give him confidence to go on giving them.
Have you attended an FSSP Mass, or do you attend one regularly?
That’s a very ignorant statement to make. The FSSP is a Society of Apostolic life and their formation closely follows that of monastic life in order to form them spiritually. This is also carried on into their priesthood.
One thing I like at the abbey is that on weekdays, when there’s no homily, there is a nice long time of silence. Well, they have it on days when there is a homily as well, but it’s not as long. But in our noisy world, those silent interludes are very appreciated.
I did not know that their formation was akin to monastic formation. Thank you for pointing that out.
Pray for vocations to the priesthood.
In reading the first documents on the “reform” of the liturgy, only parts of the Mass were intended to be in the vernacular. In fact, the canon was supposed to have remained in Latin. Soon after the implementation the Canon was then changed to the vernacular. Bugnini who was the head of Concilium, which concocted the Novus Ordo wrote in his memoirs, “…the vernaculars had to stop at the threshold of the Roman Canon and the sacrament of holy orders. Many thought or hoped that this threshold would not be crossed, or at least not in the near future. But the need was very quickly felt for having the entire liturgy in the vernacular. It was felt with special intensity in certain parts of the world, particularly in the Netherlands, where translations of the Canon were beginning to circulate, along with texts of new Eucharistic Prayers.” (Page 105) As we know, Paul VI eventually caved and gave in to the demands of the bishops conferences, and as they say, the rest is history. No more Latin, despite the Vatican II documents which demanded that it be retained in the Liturgy.I don’t know if they gave specifics as to the reform that was envisioned, either. Other than the wider use of the vernacular, I haven’t read anything specific. This is mere speculation on my part, that is might have included directing the readings to the people.
I’m quite curious about this, too. Could you elaborate on this, please?
According to one report, there were over 20 Eucharistic prayers actually used before Pope Paul would settle on 4. These might have been in France.
Yes, I’ve seen some of your other posts on the OF masses at your Abbey and they sound sublime! I truly wish that at least the Gospel was chanted more in OF masses. Certainly at solemn papal masses in Rome the Gospel is always chanted. I’ve seen it at OF masses in person only a handful of times. The Archdiocese of Vancouver has a number of parishes that are quite traditional (not in the EF sense - just reverent OF masses with traditional trappings), probably far more statistically than most of Canada (there have always been “tradition friendly” Archbishops in Vancouver), and you will find the Gospel chanted during particularly solemn times such as the Easter Triduum. At the cathedral itself, the faithful always have the option to receive kneeling at the altar rail (at OF masses) and I would say about half do. People who complain about the banality of the OF haven’t seen how beautiful it can be…and certainly I’m the first to complain about the OF as it is celebrated in many dioceses…
There is an FSSP parish near me. I’m not drawn to the TLM and rarely attend Mass there, but I often attend various parish events. The priests are extraordinarily hardworking and attentive to everyone -parishioner or not. They are fantastic confessors and excellent homilists. The parish near me is often a short-term assignment for the newly ordained and priests visiting from out of the country, so I’ve had the opportunity to get to know many and I’ve never met a single FSSP priest who has disappointed me in my good opinion of them.
Have you checked out Westminster Abbey near Vancouver? I heard a few clips on their website Westminster chants
It was because Sacrosanctum Concilium 36 (from Vatican II, 1963) contained the following, that vernacular eventually superseded Latin:“it is for the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned in Art. 22, 2, to decide whether, and to what extent, the vernacular language is to be used”
:extrahappy:Again, I don’t think that this is “so encouraged by the Church.” Conditions vary from parish to parish, especially with peoples’ schedules going to work, and one does not see such official “encouragements,” just the habit of doing so where priests have found it to be helpful. Typically one will not see FSSP priests doing so, but it certainly can be,