TLM Question

[deogratias]

I don’t think any will do it better than the FSSP parishes do.

 

[deogratias]

“Nothing at all. Look carefully. It is his sig.”

I agree 100% with the content of the sig but it is a bit in your face in size isn’t it?

 

[Catholic_Eagle]

Well it looks like the Insititute of CHrist the Sovereign Priest does Masses the best.

 

[deogratias]

I’d say Institute of Christ the King to be on a par with FFSP, both are well formed priests with perfect Traditional Masses.

 

[aaron_brown99]

Catholic Eagle:

The Traditional Latin Mass needs a lifetime to figure out. It is not temporary like the NO Mass. Sir please take tome to attend the Traditional Latin Mass for a month or two each Sunday[or whenever you can] and then make your judgement. Sorry aaron but have you been to a sung or High Mass? At those you respond more than at a NO.

That does sound like an appealing idea, but I"m a bit reluctant to bring my four children (under six) to a Mass that has so much SILENCE in it!

Are there any parents out there who can relate any TLM-with-the-kiddos experiences?

 

[Iohannes]

aaron_brown99:

That does sound like an appealing idea, but I"m a bit reluctant to bring my four children (under six) to a Mass that has so much SILENCE in it!

Are there any parents out there who can relate any TLM-with-the-kiddos experiences?

From what I have heard and seen, the kids tend to be more respectful during any reverent Mass I have been to including the TLM and Latin NOM.

 

[Brian_Crane]

That does sound like an appealing idea, but I"m a bit reluctant to bring my four children (under six) to a Mass that has so much SILENCE in it!

In my experience, there are far more children at Latin Masses than N.O. masses, but I notice less crying, tantrums, etc. for whatever reason. I don’t think it’s a big deal. Taking little ones to church can be stressful no matter where you go ( I once had five under the age of six). At least you’ll probably have more people with which to commiserate at the TLM.

 

[deogratias]

That does sound like an appealing idea, but I"m a bit reluctant to bring my four children (under six) to a Mass that has so much SILENCE in it!

Well that was the only Mass when I had young children. Children today are very visual because of TV. I find the best thing that most of the people I know with young children do is sit as close to the altar as they can. There is a lot going on there in the Tridentine Mass, both low and high Masses. Also children are very prone to mimic and they quickly seem to learn to genuflect, make the sign of the cross, bow their heads at appropriate times, strike their breasts when the bell rings.

At one Tridentine Parish I attended, we often voluntarily arrived early to say the rosary before Mass - often there were children younger than first grade that would lead the rosary and knew all the mysteries - a result of family rosary hour every night I am sure.

But by and large, I think the children are more calmed by the silence and are better behaved as a result. Just my observation.
Maybe becaue it is expected of them, I don’t know why. It is always touching to me as I watch them be so pious, always genuflecting if they pass the tabernacle, walking with hands in a prayerful position if they need to leave the pew for any reason, with heads bowed, they look like little angels. One altar boy we had a few weeks ago was meticulous in his serving of Mass, yet he had to stand on tip to to place the Missal on the altar.

Well this is just my observations which is what you asked for.

So if you do take them, sit as close to the front as possible so they can see what’s going on.

 

[aaron_brown99]

deogratias:

So if you do take them, sit as close to the front as possible so they can see what’s going on.

Excellent suggestion, I think I’ll pitch it to the wife and see if we can make a go of it!

This is fast becoming my favorite forum, as I haven’t spotted any serious rancor yet…

 

[Marines]

That does sound like an appealing idea, but I"m a bit reluctant to bring my four children (under six) to a Mass that has so much SILENCE in it!

Well, I’m pretty sure the TLM in Dallas has more people under five than over fifty. It’s a very young group and alot of large families. However, the kids are pretty much calm and for the most part are attentive.

@ aaron brown,
Your signature is one of the best I’ve ever seen.

 

[flick427]

Marines:

You attend the Latin Mass? Is this in the Military or at a local church?

 

[aaron_brown99]

Marines:

@ aaron brown,
Your signature is one of the best I’ve ever seen.

Thanks! It’s a quotation from this blog: catholiclight.stblogs.org/archives/015231.html

 

[Marines]

Actually, I’m not in the military yet. I hope to be though, in the near future. To tell you the truth, I really don’t know how common the TLM is in the military. I have a friend here at the TLM who is an F-15 Crew Chief and is now stationed in Florida. However, I don’t think he hasthe Latin Mass available.

 

[Manofvirtue]

Tiny Little Men. Small boys. WOOT!

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[wina]

May I know what is FFSP? I know SSPX.

 

[patrick457]

May I know what is FFSP? I know SSPX.

To be brief, the FSSP stands for the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter.

 

[patrick457]

Gospel is read North because, the North represent coldness and darkness wear the Gospel needed to be spread.

Also if you do have a chance, attend a High Mass.

Just a little trivia here:

The Roman custom of the 8th-12th centuries (as mentioned in Ordo Romanus II, a Gallican recension of a Roman Ordo) was actually that the Deacon reading the Gospel should turn to the south - where the men stand (cf. 1 Corinthians 14:35), and not to the north as he does in the EF. Where there were two ambos, the northern one was reserved for the gospel, with that on the south for the epistle. A reader in turning towards the greater number of persons would naturally turn more or less southwards in the north ambo, and northwards in the other. Now, at a later period the rubrics are indeed unanimous in directing a northward position. Micrologus suggests that the change arose in this way: when there was no deacon, the celebrant read the gospel at the altar, on which the book rested at the north end, and so he apparently turned northwards. The deacons, emulous of their superiors, took to turning in the same direction; and by degrees the custom became the rule.

 

[laszlo]

I attended a Saturday morning Mass at a TLM chapel in south Denver recently, and I was surprised that not only were the prayers in latin, but the readings were in latin as well!

Was this the norm for the Tridentine Mass?

Until 1964 the priest read everything in Latin waht belonged to the Mass. Sometimes the Gospel and in some countries the Lesson was additionally read in vernacular too, but only after the priest read it in Latin on parallel with it.

Since the approved TLM is the 1962 version, in the TLM the priest reads the readings in Latin. Usually it is read also in vernacular.

 

[Bob_Aliano]

“The priest there didn’t happen to be named Fr. Byrne was he?”

If it was at the FFSP Church in Littleton it was more likely Fr. Salgado, otherwise it may have been an SSPX chapel.

I attend Our Lady of Mount Carmel, an FSSP TLM Parish in Littleton. The priests there are Fr. Jackson and Fr. Healy. I believe it is more correctly called a Chaplaincy.

 

[wina]

To be brief, the FSSP stands for the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter.

Does Rome approve it?